the last 9800 vs 5900 thread.

emericanchaos · 08-05-03, 11:13 AM

i'm see'ing about 8 posts a day about "what's better FX5900 or radeon 9800?". so this is to sum it all up for everyone.

THEY'RE THE SAME!. one is stronger in some tests while it gets beat in some by the other.

in my opinion 256MB of video ram isn't needed as there's no software that will utilize it. don't use this as a deciding point as to which to buy. it's just going to cost you alot more money and you won't see a difference.

please don't turn this into a fan boy thread about everything we've argued about before. when it comes down to it they're equal. it doesn't matter who cheated on what and who optimised for what. they're the same. buying either one won't be a waste of money so lets not argue over the minute petty differences.

funnyperson1 · 08-05-03, 11:21 AM

I love you man. This is so true.

IR1 · 08-05-03, 11:40 AM

But Pixel Shader 2.0 is way screwed up on the FX series right now... but maybe they will fix it. Anyway yeah they are really close to the same performance.

But cheats do matter if they are only equal because one it cheating. Im not saying one is... but to say cheats are irrelevent is illogical.

R4z0r4mu5 Pr|m3 · 08-05-03, 11:54 AM

yeah, but we all know this will not be the last thread

the "cheat" is pretty irrelevant because the particular benchmark very poorly reflect real world performance, it's just that we stat monkeys value it so much, also why ATI developed with Futuremark...not trying to start an arguement here

it also matters if GFFX can't do FSAA in HL2 and the radeon series can

also telling from the benchmarks and reviews additional ram helps a lot in higher resolutions, but both cards have versions with 256mb

anyhow, they are very close competitors but not exactly the same

shiltz · 08-05-03, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by R4z0r4mu5 Pr|m3
it also matters if GFFX can't do FSAA in HL2 and the radeon series can

the geforce cards don't because the developers of half life told nvidia and ati than they needed to disable it in HL2 because HL2 doesn't support FSAA and it causes lots of graphic errors in the game, nvidia listened, ati didn't.

n00bular · 08-05-03, 01:40 PM

Well now, Half Life 2 can run with AA on with all Geforce series cards. Valve fixed the bug

Yay

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Valve has reported that the anti-aliasing bug for Nvidia video cards has been fixed. This is a huge relief for many geforce owners.

R4z0r4mu5 Pr|m3 · 08-05-03, 01:47 PM

cool, thanks for the update guys

cursor · 08-06-03, 07:51 PM

Does this hold true for the 9800 non-pro and the 5900 non-ultra?

And one thing I think needs to be said in the "Final thread" is that nVidia doesn't seem to be able to with ATI on price. And to be honest, I can't think of why. I just got a Radeon 9800 Pro refurb from newegg for $267 shipped. A refurb 5900 non-ultra is $10 more.

dippy_skoodlez · 08-06-03, 08:33 PM

Actually, look at the benchies.. not the ones w/oout AA/af.. then the 9800 kicks butt.. ESP in Q3

But w/out aa/af the 5900 leads by a bit... but who would pay $500 for no aa/af?!!

aceyO · 08-06-03, 11:00 PM

HOw about 5900Ultra? Hmm...btw, im from Singapore n if i buy visiontek 9800Pro..HOW TO RMA?

aceyO · 08-06-03, 11:00 PM

HOw about 5900Ultra? Hmm...btw, im from Singapore n if i buy visiontek 9800Pro..HOW TO RMA?

08-05-03, 11:13 AM	Thread Starter #1
emericanchaos Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsport, PA	the last 9800 vs 5900 thread. i'm see'ing about 8 posts a day about "what's better FX5900 or radeon 9800?". so this is to sum it all up for everyone. THEY'RE THE SAME!. one is stronger in some tests while it gets beat in some by the other. in my opinion 256MB of video ram isn't needed as there's no software that will utilize it. don't use this as a deciding point as to which to buy. it's just going to cost you alot more money and you won't see a difference. please don't turn this into a fan boy thread about everything we've argued about before. when it comes down to it they're equal. it doesn't matter who cheated on what and who optimised for what. they're the same. buying either one won't be a waste of money so lets not argue over the minute petty differences. __________________ xp4000+ crap MSI board 2GB XMMS x700xt not worth OCing with this board.
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08-05-03, 11:40 AM	#3
IR1 Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Jose, California	But Pixel Shader 2.0 is way screwed up on the FX series right now... but maybe they will fix it. Anyway yeah they are really close to the same performance. But cheats do matter if they are only equal because one it cheating. Im not saying one is... but to say cheats are irrelevent is illogical. __________________ Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz Asus P8Z68-V 8GB DDR3-1600 Patriot Viper Xtreme Visiontek 6950 2GB Ref. (stock) Lenovo Y500 - Core I7 2.4Ghz 8GB DDR3-1600 Nvidia GeForce GT650M SLI
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08-05-03, 11:54 AM	#4
R4z0r4mu5 Pr\|m3 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York	yeah, but we all know this will not be the last thread the "cheat" is pretty irrelevant because the particular benchmark very poorly reflect real world performance, it's just that we stat monkeys value it so much, also why ATI developed with Futuremark...not trying to start an arguement here it also matters if GFFX can't do FSAA in HL2 and the radeon series can also telling from the benchmarks and reviews additional ram helps a lot in higher resolutions, but both cards have versions with 256mb anyhow, they are very close competitors but not exactly the same
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R4z0r4mu5 Pr\|m3 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York	cool, thanks for the update guys
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08-06-03, 07:51 PM	#8
cursor Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA USA	Does this hold true for the 9800 non-pro and the 5900 non-ultra? And one thing I think needs to be said in the "Final thread" is that nVidia doesn't seem to be able to with ATI on price. And to be honest, I can't think of why. I just got a Radeon 9800 Pro refurb from newegg for $267 shipped. A refurb 5900 non-ultra is $10 more. __________________ This space intentionally left blank.
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dippy_skoodlez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In front of my computer	Actually, look at the benchies.. not the ones w/oout AA/af.. then the 9800 kicks butt.. ESP in Q3 But w/out aa/af the 5900 leads by a bit... but who would pay $500 for no aa/af?!! __________________ Retina Macbook Pro 2.6Ghz, 16GB DDR3, 512GB SSD, GT650m 3570k, 8GB Corsair XMS3, eVGA GTX670, Asus Maximus V Gene, 850w HALE90, NZXT Switch 810 My Heatware
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08-06-03, 11:00 PM	#10
aceyO New Member Join Date: Jul 2003	HOw about 5900Ultra? Hmm...btw, im from Singapore n if i buy visiontek 9800Pro..HOW TO RMA?
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