[Masako]

First off sorry if my terminology is wrong, im just learning alot of this. Ok I had a power surge and apparently it was strong enough to cause problems. Anyway I thought a vital component such as my ram, cpu or video card had been killed and since I had no spares in which to test these theories I took it to the place where I purchase all my parts... Netlink computers Anyway the tech person reset the cmos and all was well, however I notice now that I get less 3Dmarks then I did before... I basically got 9170 on the dot nearly every time before, however now I get around 8897 and I have tried multiple times. I have checked my bios settings to make sure everything is set correctly and it looks to be but I cant figure out why the loss in 3D Marks. Any suggestions would be most helpfull.

[Krusty]

make sure your bios has memory settings on Turbo or a fast sounding name of similar nature. Also, if you can enable AGP fast writes in your bios, do that too. If neither of those works, try adjusting your AGP aperture size up and down to see if you get a difference.

[Masako]

The A7V333 bios dont have Generic ram timing settings such as Fast or Turbo. As for aperature size, its set at what it was before... 64. And yes fastwrites is enabled.

[o770]

so you replaced ram, cpu and video card? if so and you replaced for the same as you had before then the things i can think of is if ram timings are not as fast as they were before, because you set it to faster timing before or just because the ram you got now is not as fast, like cas latency and others.
and the video card, did you have the old card overclocked at all?
and cpu, was it overclocked before?

[Masako]

no no oTTO lol, not a thing was replaced. I didnt say that. I said I first thought it was a problem with those components but I had no spares to see if they were the problem. Just forget about that part.

[o770]

ok, sorry about that...

then it can only be some bios setting Masako, once the only change was clearing CMOS..

[o770]

some chipsets will fail to re-apply AGP 4x on the OS after it was set to 2x in bios and set back to 4x. this is the only thing i can think of..
you may want to check if you have agp 4x running under windows.

[Masako]

Yeah I know, just cant figure out what settings.

[Titan386]

For the A7V333, the setting that is being referred to is located on the same screen of the BIOS as the cpu speed setting, I believe its the "Advanced" tab. It isn't labelled as memory timings, I think its something along the lings of "system performance", and the two settings are optimal and turbo. You want the turbo setting. Hope this helps.

[Masako]

Thanks titan I just checked that out but as far as I can tell it dosent exist. The advanced tab has all the cpu options yes but no memory options.

[Masako]

Hey whats the standard voltage for the AXP 1800+? Mines currently at 1.70, maybe its underpowered.

[Gerst240]

Originally posted by Masako
Hey whats the standard voltage for the AXP 1800+? Mines currently at 1.70, maybe its underpowered.

nope im currently at 1.73 and fine have you checked your fsb most mobos usually reset to 100

[Shadow ÒÓ]

try disabling shadowing for video and is your memory set at CAS 2 by chance?

[Titan386]

The option that I am referring to does change the RAM timings, but it is not labelled as such. On the bios of my A7V333, there is a setting labelled "System Performance". You can find in on the Advanced tab of the bios, right under the CPU/mem ratio selector. I can't understand why you wouldn't be able to see it. Have you updated your BIOS at all? I'm not even sure if that could change the format, but even if it could, I don't see why the setting would be removed. Perhaps you should verify that your board is in jumperfree mode?

[Masako]

Im pretty sure its in jumper free mode and no I havent updated my bios, its running revision 1005, what's your's running at? Also how can I make sure its running in jumper free mode? Im pretty sure I set it to run jumper free.

[o770]

it sounds to me like agp interface is running at 2x (again!). because performance difference is not so great and because the most common default setting for it is 2x. so, having it set to 4x not always means that under the OS the interface is set to 4x, specially if it was changed to 2x in bios before.
so find out a way to check if you have the agp interface at 4x under windows.
as i said that can happens due to a chipset driver issue.

[Masako]

I checked with the Geforce Tweak Utility yesterday, says its running at 4X.

[Masako]

Bump... Still havent figured the problem out =(

[o770]

Masako i would be glad helping you out but as i said, it can only be about a bios setting once the only change was clearing cmos. are u really sure thats all the guy did?

re-read the thread as i noticed ppl suggested you to do stuff that you were not able to find in your bios and re-check everything: if that was the only change in fact and bios settings are the same as before, then you have something else to look for.

[Masako]

Im sure he only cleared the cmos and yes that leaves it as a bios setting. I have been on the verge of pulling my hair out for lack of understanding the problem. I just cant seem to figure out what's causing such a strange phenomenon. I also found out that my mobo is not running jumper free if that makes any difference. Im considering updating the bios but I shouldnt really need to seing as I was getting higher performance with the exact same bios earlier. As for that video shadowing option, I dont have it in my bios so I cant change it. 300 3d-marks may not sound like alot but its meaning 15fps decrease in some tests which is actually a signifigant amount, I would probably need to overclock to gain that back and thats not something I want too do right now, not untill games are more demanding. I just dont like that I lost performance unessesarilly... its very frustrating.