Just going by your own forum, pal. Nothing but gripes for every single mobo listed under "Motherboards"! Nothing good listed. Only problems. Where's the recommendations? The "You HAVE to own one of these" lists? That's why I started this thread. I'm with different forums all over the world. For every single mobo recommendation there's at least 5 other responses in the "Avoid at all costs" list. There's no one to turn to where I live. I only have you people, not that I'm complaining! It's just that personal, face-to-face discussions with someone you can trust about computing would be nice. I read at <tomshardware.com> that the quality control of Abit, Asus and most other mobo manufacturers has gone down the tubes. Add all of this together and you can see why I'm extremely confused. I ain't rich and these things ain't cheap. Thanks for your response. k1