Ok well after looking on my board it says I have the dreaded ver. 1.1 Well I heard some people saying if you set the vcore to +7.5% and the agp voltage to 1.7 Geforce 4 Ti's will work on it, is that true? and if so is their any damage or long term effects that will happen with the increased voltage? Also will things like your graphics card temp will rise and will need to be watercooled cause of the voltage increase? I also heard people saying somthing about boards with the agp card support clip doesnt have as many problems, well my board has a white locking clip for the agp card but I thought all of them did, but anyway do people with the whiteclip boards still have this problem?.. I dont see why not but who knows! Thanks!