Updating the BIOS to o/c?

JoT · 08-22-02, 08:19 PM

I can't o/c with my board, I assume it's because my BIOS won't support it, as there aren't any jumpers on the mobo. Does anyone know if I could update the BIOS to o/c?

"
686
AMIBIOS
AX76
2130
"

--sticker on the BIOs

If someone could help me with my lack of overclocking capabilities, I'd appreciate it.

ThePunkGeek · 08-22-02, 08:35 PM

umm more system info would help (actually any system info would help)
mobo
cpu
cooling
ram
...

JoT · 08-22-02, 10:58 PM

I didn't figure you'd want any of that (cept the mobo) just to determine overclock capability or not..

I figured out that my mobo is a SiS of somesort
CPU - AMD Athlon XP 1800+
RAM - uh... some cheap PC133 SD I got from BuyAiB (replacing it with DDR soon anyway)
cooling - OEM Stock HSF for the CPU, 1 case fan-intake

JoT · 08-24-02, 09:30 PM

*bump*

{PMS}fishy · 08-24-02, 09:33 PM

Probally going to want to invest in a new mother board and some ddr memory. SIS would be the chipset manufacture not the MB manf. Check again around the PCI slots to see if you can find anything else. Look relly closley. Where did you get this, or is it a prebuilt system. If its prebuilt your chances of being able to o/c are pretty slim.

JoT · 08-24-02, 10:09 PM

my dad bought all the parts for me, so it's not a prebuilt; I looked for an hour all around the PCI slots, never found any info about the board

and yes, I plan to get a new board anyway, but I just wanted to try ocing a bit now

litghost · 08-24-02, 10:17 PM

what you need to do is simple. research a good mobo. buy the good mobo. Go to main site for info on finding good mobo for o/c-ing. To me it sounds like you have a mobo that is designed for the a user that wants to build a computer but the term FSB means nothing to them. Get a new mobo. A good mobo is worth every penny. My first mobo was a POS, and caused lots of trouble for me.

oh and if you cant change the clock settings you problably cant read temps of cpu. Dont o/c unless you can see the temps so you can monitor the processor. It would be bad to have to get a new chip.

repo man11 · 08-24-02, 10:53 PM

WHen you go into the BIOS settings, what can you change? If you can change your memory settings, you can possibly get some performance there.

Demont · 08-24-02, 11:00 PM

just get Sisoft Sandra 2002. it will tell you what motherboard you have.

JoT · 08-24-02, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Demont
just get Sisoft Sandra 2002. it will tell you what motherboard you have.

it's listed as "unknown"

Quote:

Originally posted by repo man11
WHen you go into the BIOS settings, what can you change?

I can change all the normal BIOS stuff, set my cpu to run as it's supposed to, or as half FSB speed (sort of as a diff cpu)

Quote:

Originally posted by litghost
what you need to do is simple. research a good mobo. buy the good mobo. Go to main site for info on finding good mobo for o/c-ing. To me it sounds like you have a mobo that is designed for the a user that wants to build a computer but the term FSB means nothing to them. Get a new mobo. A good mobo is worth every penny. My first mobo was a POS, and caused lots of trouble for me.

Already planning to buy a new mobo for my new system (the rebuild of this one)

Quote:

Originally posted by litghost
oh and if you cant change the clock settings you problably cant read temps of cpu. Dont o/c unless you can see the temps so you can monitor the processor. It would be bad to have to get a new chip.

It can check the temps, the cpu temp under max load is 135F, PSU is 210F

litghost · 08-25-02, 10:17 AM

um wow your chip is on fire, if that isnt o/c-ed then OMG dont. At you need to cool your processor much better. When i started off those were the temps i was getting and i had lots of instability. You need to devise a better cooling system b4 even think of o/c-ing.
Also i didnt think psu's had temp monitors. You might be looking at your motherboard and cpu temps, and if thats the case turn off your comp now.

goodolamd · 08-25-02, 01:37 PM

from the description he gave I think thats a ECS K7S5A he has.
1.it takes both sdram and ddr ram
2.sis chipset
3. xp compatible
4.popular board for prebuilt combos

there several o/c bios made for that board,but litghost is right you need to cool that puppy.I think it was on ocworkbench that they said the new o/c bios has a 1/5 divider for the sis735

JoT · 08-25-02, 04:20 PM

I agree that the cpu needs better cooling, it's using the stock hsf, and I'm not going to waste the cash to buy a new hsf if I'm planning on watercooling soon

the board only takes SD, I'm changing to DDR when I get my new board

the comp's not prebuilt, damnit lol

about the psu temp, I have no idea, it's an antec psu I think *not gonna crack his case open while he's at a LAN party*
the temp does drop about 100F when I stick a 2.5' fan in front of the hole setup. so it could be the mobo temp.....

{PMS}fishy · 08-25-02, 04:27 PM

A picture of the MB may help. Sounds like it could be a PC Chips MB. Why don't you ask your dad what it is?

litghost · 08-25-02, 06:10 PM

no what im saying is that whatever program you are using may be telling you the cpu temp as the psu temp and the cpu temp as the mobo temp. It may be confused

JoT · 08-25-02, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by {PMS}fishy
A picture of the MB may help. Sounds like it could be a PC Chips MB. Why don't you ask your dad what it is?

I can't take any pics, no digi cam and never develop film. I can never get ahold of my dad, and even if I could, he wouldn't be able to tell me what mobo I've got, he deals with tons a day.

Quote:

Originally posted by litghost
no what im saying is that whatever program you are using may be telling you the cpu temp as the psu temp and the cpu temp as the mobo temp. It may be confused

that makes sense, and that would be very bad

litghost · 08-25-02, 09:15 PM

very very bad thats over kill temp for most cpus

JoT · 08-28-02, 10:17 AM

damn stock HSF

last night MBM5 alerted me that the processor went up to a peak of 174F, which, as far as I know, is death temp

comp still runs, but that worries me

also, I should mention, the PSU blows out some really hot air, and has no intake, I touch the mobo and it's not even really warm

litghost · 08-28-02, 12:15 PM

SHUT YOUR COMP OFF NOW FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR PROCESSOR!!!!!!

JoT · 08-28-02, 03:18 PM

*curses about hot cpus*

that was a peak during the night, crushing #s for distributed.net the whole time, and all day, and all the couple months before that....

there's no way I can get a new HSF anytime soon.... *runs as little as needed*

08-22-02, 08:19 PM	Thread Starter #1
JoT You can't fire me, I have tenure! MODERATOR Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California	Updating the BIOS to o/c? I can't o/c with my board, I assume it's because my BIOS won't support it, as there aren't any jumpers on the mobo. Does anyone know if I could update the BIOS to o/c? " 686 AMIBIOS AX76 2130 " --sticker on the BIOs If someone could help me with my lack of overclocking capabilities, I'd appreciate it.
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08-22-02, 08:35 PM	#2
ThePunkGeek Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario Canada	umm more system info would help (actually any system info would help) mobo cpu cooling ram ... __________________ My Heatware Proud Member Of Folding@Home! Team 32!~ Join us we need your help!
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08-22-02, 10:58 PM	Thread Starter #3
JoT You can't fire me, I have tenure! MODERATOR Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California	I didn't figure you'd want any of that (cept the mobo) just to determine overclock capability or not.. I figured out that my mobo is a SiS of somesort CPU - AMD Athlon XP 1800+ RAM - uh... some cheap PC133 SD I got from BuyAiB (replacing it with DDR soon anyway) cooling - OEM Stock HSF for the CPU, 1 case fan-intake
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08-24-02, 09:30 PM	Thread Starter #4
JoT You can't fire me, I have tenure! MODERATOR Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California	bump __________________ "There it is, ladies and gentlemen: the most expensive car in the world, dressed up like a mouse." Why yes, I do have Heat! --- Welcome to the forums. Please read all of the forum rules. Thank you =) --- What mods are active that I can PM my concerns to?
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08-24-02, 09:33 PM	#5
{PMS}fishy Senior A64 Killer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boston, MA	Probally going to want to invest in a new mother board and some ddr memory. SIS would be the chipset manufacture not the MB manf. Check again around the PCI slots to see if you can find anything else. Look relly closley. Where did you get this, or is it a prebuilt system. If its prebuilt your chances of being able to o/c are pretty slim. __________________ Pick 2: Speed -- Reliability -- Cost Trouble Shooting 101: 1. RTFM 2. Repeat Step 1 6ghz Club Member. cw823 Fan Club Founding Member, are you?
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08-24-02, 10:09 PM	Thread Starter #6
JoT You can't fire me, I have tenure! MODERATOR Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California	my dad bought all the parts for me, so it's not a prebuilt; I looked for an hour all around the PCI slots, never found any info about the board and yes, I plan to get a new board anyway, but I just wanted to try ocing a bit now
	QUOTE Thanks

08-24-02, 10:17 PM	#7
litghost Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CA	what you need to do is simple. research a good mobo. buy the good mobo. Go to main site for info on finding good mobo for o/c-ing. To me it sounds like you have a mobo that is designed for the a user that wants to build a computer but the term FSB means nothing to them. Get a new mobo. A good mobo is worth every penny. My first mobo was a POS, and caused lots of trouble for me. oh and if you cant change the clock settings you problably cant read temps of cpu. Dont o/c unless you can see the temps so you can monitor the processor. It would be bad to have to get a new chip.
	QUOTE Thanks

08-24-02, 10:53 PM	#8
repo man11 Member Join Date: Dec 2001	WHen you go into the BIOS settings, what can you change? If you can change your memory settings, you can possibly get some performance there. __________________ Not really a repo man.
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08-24-02, 11:00 PM	#9
Demont Member Join Date: Nov 2001	just get Sisoft Sandra 2002. it will tell you what motherboard you have. __________________ i7 950 @ 3.07 XFX 5850 @ 775/1000 Heatware
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08-25-02, 10:17 AM	#11
litghost Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CA	um wow your chip is on fire, if that isnt o/c-ed then OMG dont. At you need to cool your processor much better. When i started off those were the temps i was getting and i had lots of instability. You need to devise a better cooling system b4 even think of o/c-ing. Also i didnt think psu's had temp monitors. You might be looking at your motherboard and cpu temps, and if thats the case turn off your comp now.
	QUOTE Thanks

08-25-02, 01:37 PM	#12
goodolamd Registered Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cincinnati	from the description he gave I think thats a ECS K7S5A he has. 1.it takes both sdram and ddr ram 2.sis chipset 3. xp compatible 4.popular board for prebuilt combos there several o/c bios made for that board,but litghost is right you need to cool that puppy.I think it was on ocworkbench that they said the new o/c bios has a 1/5 divider for the sis735
	QUOTE Thanks

08-25-02, 04:20 PM	Thread Starter #13
JoT You can't fire me, I have tenure! MODERATOR Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California	I agree that the cpu needs better cooling, it's using the stock hsf, and I'm not going to waste the cash to buy a new hsf if I'm planning on watercooling soon the board only takes SD, I'm changing to DDR when I get my new board the comp's not prebuilt, damnit lol about the psu temp, I have no idea, it's an antec psu I think not gonna crack his case open while he's at a LAN party the temp does drop about 100F when I stick a 2.5' fan in front of the hole setup. so it could be the mobo temp.....
	QUOTE Thanks

08-25-02, 04:27 PM	#14
{PMS}fishy Senior A64 Killer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boston, MA	A picture of the MB may help. Sounds like it could be a PC Chips MB. Why don't you ask your dad what it is? __________________ Pick 2: Speed -- Reliability -- Cost Trouble Shooting 101: 1. RTFM 2. Repeat Step 1 6ghz Club Member. cw823 Fan Club Founding Member, are you?
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08-25-02, 06:10 PM	#15
litghost Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CA	no what im saying is that whatever program you are using may be telling you the cpu temp as the psu temp and the cpu temp as the mobo temp. It may be confused
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08-25-02, 09:15 PM	#17
litghost Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CA	very very bad thats over kill temp for most cpus
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08-28-02, 10:17 AM	Thread Starter #18
JoT You can't fire me, I have tenure! MODERATOR Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California	damn stock HSF last night MBM5 alerted me that the processor went up to a peak of 174F, which, as far as I know, is death temp comp still runs, but that worries me also, I should mention, the PSU blows out some really hot air, and has no intake, I touch the mobo and it's not even really warm __________________ "There it is, ladies and gentlemen: the most expensive car in the world, dressed up like a mouse." Why yes, I do have Heat! --- Welcome to the forums. Please read all of the forum rules. Thank you =) --- What mods are active that I can PM my concerns to?
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08-28-02, 12:15 PM	#19
litghost Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CA	SHUT YOUR COMP OFF NOW FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR PROCESSOR!!!!!!
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08-28-02, 03:18 PM	Thread Starter #20
JoT You can't fire me, I have tenure! MODERATOR Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California	curses about hot cpus that was a peak during the night, crushing #s for distributed.net the whole time, and all day, and all the couple months before that.... there's no way I can get a new HSF anytime soon.... runs as little as needed
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