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Old 08-28-02, 11:19 AM Thread Starter   #1
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So So confused, can anyone help me?!


Ok, I am on the computer connected to cable internet right now, and I just built a computer in my room. The computer in my room has the Linksys Wireless PCI card in it, and this computer I am on now has the Linksys Wireless USB Adapter connected to it. My hopes were to run these 2 in ADHOC mode. But then I realized the range is too far (About 40feet, but through 2 floors [wooden]). So I purchased an access point to put inbetween the computers on the middle floor. But I am so confused on what to do here and how to set it up so I can get the internet on the computer upstairs. Can someone please help me? The access point has a cable to hook a LAN cord up too, but I thought I could just place it in the middle floor without hooking it up to anything....someone..please

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Old 08-28-02, 12:42 PM Thread Starter   #2
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Also I think I have somehow networked the computers, but am not sure. On the computer I am on now...the main one...in Network Neighbourhood it sats that the computer upstais is in there, but when I go to the upstairs computer it doesnt say anything or show any signs of being networked. I am so confused can someone pelase help me get the internet on the upstairs computer......tNX

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Old 08-28-02, 01:40 PM   #3
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give me the make and model of every piece of hardware and their location and how u have them connected. Have u tried reading the manual or tech support to solve this issue?

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Old 08-28-02, 04:05 PM Thread Starter   #4
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Yes I have read the diagram you provided. I have the Linksys WAP11 Wireless access point, the Wireless PCI Card and Wireless USB Adapter. The USB adapter is on the computer I am on now with the internet and the PCI card is on the computer upstairs with no internet. I dont even know if it should be in Infrastructure mode or ADHOC mode, thats why I need help from someone with networking experience to explain to me if they could the steps I need to do to get an internet connection on my upstairs computer. Thank you

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Old 08-28-02, 04:20 PM   #5
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u came to the right place. If i remember correctly adhoc is used for connecting 2 nics without the AP. Ofcourse for u this isnt what we want. Infrastructure is the way to go cuzz u have the AP, it also has a mode to work with cat5 LAN too. or setting i forget. Im sorry i have to go right now, but when i get back i will read my manual again and walk u trough the setup. U should IM me on aim or msn so it will go faster. brb in about 2-3 hrs

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Old 08-28-02, 07:09 PM Thread Starter   #6
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Hey AZN I got ur MSN name...thanks a lot !!! And ill talk to u on MSN!

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Old 08-28-02, 07:16 PM   #7
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Old 08-28-02, 09:53 PM   #8
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Don't know if you got it fixed or not, but you do want to go infrastructure. I'm assuming the computer that currently has internet access is connected to something like a Linksys broadband router? If so you want to connect the access point to that also. Then you can use the wireless adapters in both systems to connect the two computers to the internet and share files between them. Just make sure your access point and both wireless nics have the same channel, ess id, and any security keys you may be using. The only problem you may have is you'll want to put the access point in a central location between the computers - so they can both get a good signal. That may require dropping cable some distance from the broadband router to where ever you locate the AP.

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Old 08-28-02, 10:21 PM   #9
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he doesnt have a router. Just 2 pc win 98 os and 1 ap wap11, 2 wireless cards and a cable modem. He wants to get both pc on the network and internet.

the problem lies with no router. Im thinking for the pc with the modem to get use ICS and run that line to the AP. But im not sure if that will work cuzz the 1 port it has is to uplink to a hub or switch. It might and it might not, but im leaning twards not. If it does work, he can just add 1 nic and use a cat5 to go from pc with the modem to the AP then that AP will get the other pc online. If that will work what do u think about just telling the ICS to use the wireless nic? I dont know if that will change the value of the nic and not allow it to communicate with the AP anymore. Any ideas? I think he has to return it and get a BEFW11S4 router and AP.

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Old 08-28-02, 11:43 PM   #10
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Hmm, what about hooking the AP up to a second nic with a crossover cable? My AP doesn't have to be plugged into an uplink port, but it's not a Linksys. Then configure the default gateway as the IP of the nic the cable modem is plugged into? Interesting situation. Might be easier to get a router with AP built in, but then it still wouldn't have enough range to reach the other computer.

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Old 08-29-02, 12:29 AM   #11
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i think the range will be fine. I have the router/ap and i get great range. I went through 3 walls just fine and even had 80% signal strenth. Im thinking the same thing as u as i said above, but i dont think the Xover cable is needed. Its not like pc to pc. the AP is just another hub or switch but wireless. I told him he could try that, but i didnt say it will or wouldnt work. The port available on the AP is meant for adding a wired LAN to it via switch or hub. The AP is just a AP, u need some kind of router to share the net. The PC with the internet can use ICS. But getting the AP to communicate with that is the tricky part which i my friend arent 100% sure.

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Old 08-29-02, 09:08 PM   #13
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I don't have a Linksys AP, but so far the range on most of the units I've worked with was pretty good. My AP at home has an external antenae which I mounted on the second floor cieling. It goes all the way to the basement just fine. My AP doesn't have to go into an uplink port, which is good because it's already used. I have an old hub in the basement and it requires a connection to an uplink port, so I had to plug it into a regular port with a xover cable. Anyway I hope he gets everything running well.

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Old 08-31-02, 11:17 AM Thread Starter   #14
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Hey guys...Im about 15mmins away from goin to the computer store...and I need to know....because I am going to return the Wireless USB adapter and the Wireless Access Point and get the Wireless 4port Router. Is this the right move to get the internet in my room? I will just have the Linksys Wireless 4pt router and the Wireless PCI card in my computer in my room....is this correct to get the internet?

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Old 08-31-02, 01:32 PM   #15
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Yep I believe so.

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Old 08-31-02, 09:58 PM Thread Starter   #16
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Hey thanks TC. Well I got the router, but I have a slight problem ( DO they ever stop?! ), you see I plug the main RJ45 cable into the WAN port on the router like it says, then with my other RJ45 cable, I plug it into the 1st port on the router like it says (I tried the second third and fourth too), and then I plug that cord into the back of my computer into the ethernet card, but it doesnt work?? the router gets it but it wont transfer to to back of my computer and I dont know why, does anyone know what this could be and what I should do?!

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Old 08-31-02, 10:11 PM   #17
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The WAN port plugs into your modem. The first port (farthest away from the WAN) is an uplink port, not a normal port. You should plug your computer into the next port. Then make sure your computer's network settings are configured for DHCP - i.e. set to automatic. For good measure do a full reset on the router, then reboot your computer. You should be able to open your browser and put 192.168.1.1 in the address bar then hit enter. Your router's config menu should open up. The default username is blank and the password is "admin" without qoutes of course. Configuration of the router itself can vary a little from one ISP to another. Some rquire an entry in that host name field, some don't. You most likely want to set it so your WAN info is configured automatically via DHCP. The default config works I'd say 90% of the time. It's important to know what settings and addresses your ISP uses if they need to be entered. For instance when I was using @Home I had to put a name into the router hostname field or it wouldn't work - something like CI19452-a. That identified my account to them. Now it doesn't matter. Let us know if you're still stuck. You're not using a crossover cable for anything are you? The modem to WAN line should be straight through, and so should the computer's nic to lan port on the router.

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Old 08-31-02, 10:18 PM Thread Starter   #18
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Yes I got it into the right ports...but nothing, and nope they are not crossover cables. I enabled DHCP and when I typed the IP into the browser it just gives me a error page (Gateway timeout). Im pretty confused about whats goin on here...






EdIt.....well i somehow (dont even know how) got it to connect to this computer using the port on the router and its working....but still whenever I go to that internet site it says Gateway Error..


Second EdIt...well I dont know what the heck is goin on...because it wwas working fine then about 10mins in the net just went out and I had to plug the cable modem directly back into my computer....jeeze this is really starting to bug me....any ideas on wut is goin on?!

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So you're saying you were able to get to web sites for a brief period, but you never could access the router config menu? This is a Linksys unit right? Maybe they changed it, but on mine the default out of the box is dhcp enabled and 192.168.1.1. What OS are you running? Are you sure your network settings are correct for DHCP? What happens if you go to a command prompt and type "ipconfig /all" You should be getting an IP in the range of 192.168.1.100+ with a domain name appended from your ISP and their DNS servers should be listed. The default gateway should be the router's IP of 192.168.1.1 (or whatever it is if that's not the default anymore)

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Old 08-31-02, 11:24 PM Thread Starter   #20
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Ok yuea thats what happened....i had the net for about 10mins then it went out?!?! But heres what I get when I type that into the DOSpromt:

[I PM'd you what it said because I might not want all that info gettin out]

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