GF2Ti V. GF4MX440

Project86 · 12-07-02, 03:50 PM

I currently have a GF2Ti. I was considering getting my brother (who is not seriously into gaming, but has some old S3 Savage based card) a GF4MX440, since they are only $45. However, looking at toms VGA chart http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic...charts-05.html
It seems like the GF4 will outperform mine n almost every way! I always thought the MX series would suck, but this one seems better. So should I get it for him, or get it for myself and send him my GF2?

Also, does the OC factor make my card potentially better?

funnyperson1 · 12-07-02, 03:54 PM

the MX440 is better than the Ti there is no doubt about that, but where did you get it for 45$? that is a pretty good deal depending on the quality of the vendor and manufacturer...

Project86 · 12-07-02, 03:58 PM

Check pricewatch, from several different places (some I've heard of some I haven't) and for under $50 shipped you can get an Inno3d, Chaintech, Appollo, or AOpen. Which one do you reccommend? I haven't bought one yet actually.

funnyperson1 · 12-07-02, 04:06 PM

thats why, normally i avoid the entries from ghetto companies lol....i would avoid all of those cards...in fact the cheapest one i would buy would be 60$ and too expensive imho....though a Chaintech should be fine, and AOpen too they have decent quality but i dont know about ocing...just make sure to check resellerratings.com before you buy

Project86 · 12-07-02, 05:03 PM

Oops,I just realized that all the cheaper ones have SDRAM instead of DDR. The benchies at Toms were done with a DDR version, that had 250/400 clocks. I've found some cheap DDR versions that had slower clocks, but nothing equal.

Except! The GF4MX440SE. What is the SE all about, does anyone know? It has DDR, and is always cheaper. What's the catch?

Are there any other alternatives for about $60 shipped? Either that will beat my GF2Ti, or be equal?

quegyboe · 12-07-02, 09:04 PM

The SE most likely means it supports AGP 8x. As for the GeForce4 MX440, make sure it's DDR for sure. The GF4 MX440 will certainly beat a GF2 Ti, so I would go for that.

larva · 12-08-02, 03:13 AM

The SE is not AGP 8X. It is a super cheap budget DDR model. The memory is only clocked at 333MHz. It has no fan on the heatsink. I don't remember the core frequency. It's better than a 420, but it's not a full strength 440.

Project86 · 12-08-02, 03:33 AM

I think I might try this card
http://galaxy3000.com/Itemdesc.asp?Cartid={8F245AE3-7ED1-457F-A5BF-CC7A35D09E2B}&ic=VG%2DA%2FMX440%2D64&Tp=
It's the same specs as the one tested in Toms VGA chart, so it should be good. I can get it from these guys, who seem decent, or get the one made by Palit Microsystems from Newegg for the same price. I'd love to choose Newegg for their rep, but the Palit has just a heatsink, no fan, and I've never heard of them. I used to have an Apollo card back in the day, and it seemed good. Any opinions on that?

dabest · 12-08-02, 04:10 AM

there is 1 in China for 100 bucks CAD(converted) and its a MSI MX460 64mb

Project86 · 12-08-02, 04:15 AM

That's cool, but I'm only spending $60 or less. I'm happy with the performance level of the MX440, unless the Radeon 9000 is higher.

Angry · 12-08-02, 06:17 AM

Whoa, Hold on there....

Radeon 9000 will smoke a Gf4mx 24/7...

Definitly grab that if you can, Although I prefer the 8500's over the 9000's simply because they are faster with the extra texture pipeline that the 9000 lacks....

s[H]sIkuA · 12-08-02, 06:18 AM

looking on the chart, a normal Gf3 is better than a Gf3 Ti200??

weird

Wraith · 12-08-02, 05:54 PM

ya, to hell with all of this wasting of money, get the extra 20 bucks (save yer lunch mony if u must) and get a REAL card, like the 8500

funnyperson1 · 12-08-02, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Wraith
ya, to hell with all of this wasting of money, get the extra 20 bucks (save yer lunch mony if u must) and get a REAL card, like the 8500

agreed

12-07-02, 03:50 PM	Thread Starter #1
Project86 Member Join Date: Oct 2002	GF2Ti V. GF4MX440 I currently have a GF2Ti. I was considering getting my brother (who is not seriously into gaming, but has some old S3 Savage based card) a GF4MX440, since they are only $45. However, looking at toms VGA chart http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic...charts-05.html It seems like the GF4 will outperform mine n almost every way! I always thought the MX series would suck, but this one seems better. So should I get it for him, or get it for myself and send him my GF2? Also, does the OC factor make my card potentially better?
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12-07-02, 03:54 PM	#2
funnyperson1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northern VA	the MX440 is better than the Ti there is no doubt about that, but where did you get it for 45$? that is a pretty good deal depending on the quality of the vendor and manufacturer... __________________ "Strong with the fold this boy is, fold you must"-NASSoccer its a shame you cant ban people for being ignorant fanboys.... My Heatware [Gigabyte MA790X-UDP4][PHII 940BE][Thermalright Ultra90][2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC][Palit HD4850][Enhance 5150GH][Windows 7,Ubuntu 12.04]
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12-07-02, 03:58 PM	Thread Starter #3
Project86 Member Join Date: Oct 2002	Check pricewatch, from several different places (some I've heard of some I haven't) and for under $50 shipped you can get an Inno3d, Chaintech, Appollo, or AOpen. Which one do you reccommend? I haven't bought one yet actually.
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12-07-02, 04:06 PM	#4
funnyperson1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northern VA	thats why, normally i avoid the entries from ghetto companies lol....i would avoid all of those cards...in fact the cheapest one i would buy would be 60$ and too expensive imho....though a Chaintech should be fine, and AOpen too they have decent quality but i dont know about ocing...just make sure to check resellerratings.com before you buy __________________ "Strong with the fold this boy is, fold you must"-NASSoccer its a shame you cant ban people for being ignorant fanboys.... My Heatware [Gigabyte MA790X-UDP4][PHII 940BE][Thermalright Ultra90][2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC][Palit HD4850][Enhance 5150GH][Windows 7,Ubuntu 12.04]
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12-07-02, 05:03 PM	Thread Starter #5
Project86 Member Join Date: Oct 2002	Oops,I just realized that all the cheaper ones have SDRAM instead of DDR. The benchies at Toms were done with a DDR version, that had 250/400 clocks. I've found some cheap DDR versions that had slower clocks, but nothing equal. Except! The GF4MX440SE. What is the SE all about, does anyone know? It has DDR, and is always cheaper. What's the catch? Are there any other alternatives for about $60 shipped? Either that will beat my GF2Ti, or be equal?
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12-07-02, 09:04 PM	#6
quegyboe Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: BC Canada	The SE most likely means it supports AGP 8x. As for the GeForce4 MX440, make sure it's DDR for sure. The GF4 MX440 will certainly beat a GF2 Ti, so I would go for that.
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12-08-02, 03:13 AM	#7
larva Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002	The SE is not AGP 8X. It is a super cheap budget DDR model. The memory is only clocked at 333MHz. It has no fan on the heatsink. I don't remember the core frequency. It's better than a 420, but it's not a full strength 440. __________________ Home Rig - cod2 tool--------------------------------------------------------------------------------School Rig - work tool CPU P4 561 @ 220fsb/4GHz------------------------------------------------------------------------CPU P4 506 @ 200fsb/4GHz MB Abit AG8-V Video EVGA 7800GT-----------------------------------------------------------------MB Abit AS8-V Video EVGA GF 6200 Memory 4x512MB BH5 - DDR440-2,2,2,5------------------------------------------------------Memory 2x512MB Corsair VS400-2.5,3,3,8 Cooling Scythe Ninja w/103cfm 120x38mm Sanyo-------------------------------------------Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer 4 w/Intel 92mm fan Sound SoundBastid Live Case AMS gTower PS TPII-480----------------------------------Sound Integrated audio Case Antec SLK1650 PS SP2-350 Storage 74GB Raptor - 2x200GB Samsung - LG4167b DVD-RW------------------------Storage 2x160GB Hitachi SATA - LG4163b DVD-RW - 250MB Zip Display Dell 2005FPW 20" widescreen LCD Printer - Canon i9900---------------Display Viewsonic VX2025 20" widescreen LCD Printer - Canon i860
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12-08-02, 03:33 AM	Thread Starter #8
Project86 Member Join Date: Oct 2002	I think I might try this card http://galaxy3000.com/Itemdesc.asp?Cartid={8F245AE3-7ED1-457F-A5BF-CC7A35D09E2B}&ic=VG%2DA%2FMX440%2D64&Tp= It's the same specs as the one tested in Toms VGA chart, so it should be good. I can get it from these guys, who seem decent, or get the one made by Palit Microsystems from Newegg for the same price. I'd love to choose Newegg for their rep, but the Palit has just a heatsink, no fan, and I've never heard of them. I used to have an Apollo card back in the day, and it seemed good. Any opinions on that?
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12-08-02, 04:10 AM	#9
dabest Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vancouver	there is 1 in China for 100 bucks CAD(converted) and its a MSI MX460 64mb
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12-08-02, 04:15 AM	Thread Starter #10
Project86 Member Join Date: Oct 2002	That's cool, but I'm only spending $60 or less. I'm happy with the performance level of the MX440, unless the Radeon 9000 is higher.
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12-08-02, 06:17 AM	#11
Angry Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bluefield, WV	Whoa, Hold on there.... Radeon 9000 will smoke a Gf4mx 24/7... Definitly grab that if you can, Although I prefer the 8500's over the 9000's simply because they are faster with the extra texture pipeline that the 9000 lacks.... __________________ Main Rig.......................Game Server.........................Media Server..............Untangle Core i3 2100 ....... ........Phenom II X4 965...................Athlon II X4 620....... Athlon X2 2350-BE 2.1ghz MSI P67A-GD65 ..............Asus M4A79XTD........................GA-890GX.................MSI 785GTM-45 G.Skill 1333 4x2gb............16gb Partriot S5 DDR3 1333.......4gb DDR3 1600...........4gb OCZ DDR2 1066 EVGA GTX 670 FTW SLI........2x EVGA GTX 550Ti.........................Onboard 890gx 60gb OCZ Summit.................4x250gb WD RE Raid0 ViewSonic VX2453mh-LED
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12-08-02, 06:18 AM	#12
s[H]sIkuA Member Join Date: Nov 2002	looking on the chart, a normal Gf3 is better than a Gf3 Ti200?? weird
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12-08-02, 05:54 PM	#13
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