Tualatin Celery 1.1a

old silicon · Dec 12, 2002

Just recieved 1.1a Celery and Soyo TISU from New-Egg today. It will be a week or so before I gather the rest of the pieces to get it up and running. What is this TA1, TB1 stepping stuff I have read about? How do you tell what you have? I haven't even opened the box yet but the sticker on the box says:
PROD CODE: BX80530F1100256SL5ZE
MM#: 839626
FPO/BATCH #: 7220A146
Version #: A73066-003
1.475v
PACK DATE: 06/05/02
0.13 micron process, 256-kb L2 cache, 100mhz system bus

Any Idea what kind of potential this chip/mobo has? I will be using 2-256mb Crucial cas-2 PC133, an old GeForce2 GTS-V and a new Maxtor 20gig 7200rpm HDD. I'm hoping it will run at 133FSB with the retail HSF(lapped) anything more would just be a bonus.

Opinions??

toastedzergling · Dec 12, 2002

old silicon said:
Just recieved 1.1a Celery and Soyo TISU from New-Egg today. It will be a week or so before I gather the rest of the pieces to get it up and running. What is this TA1, TB1 stepping stuff I have read about? How do you tell what you have? I haven't even opened the box yet but the sticker on the box says:
PROD CODE: BX80530F1100256SL5ZE
MM#: 839626
FPO/BATCH #: 7220A146
Version #: A73066-003
1.475v
PACK DATE: 06/05/02
0.13 micron process, 256-kb L2 cache, 100mhz system bus

Any Idea what kind of potential this chip/mobo has? I will be using 2-256mb Crucial cas-2 PC133, an old GeForce2 GTS-V and a new Maxtor 20gig 7200rpm HDD. I'm hoping it will run at 133FSB with the retail HSF(lapped) anything more would just be a bonus.

Opinions??

That's a TA1, it should run 133fsb without problems

JCLW · Dec 12, 2002

BTW the way you tell is:

PROD CODE: BX80530F1100256SL5ZE

is sSpec SL5ZE

which we look up here (and the link for SL5ZE takes us here).

Let us know how you do,
- JW

old silicon · Dec 12, 2002

Thanks for the info and the links. I found the Intel sSpecs AFTER I asked the dumb question. I quess if you want a TB1 stepping 1.1a Celery it would be a SL6JR.
Are the TB1 chips that much better than the TA1?

JCLW · Dec 13, 2002

I don't really know anymore...

There are really three kinds of chips:
SL5__ tA1
SL6__ tA1
SL6__ tB1

Many of the really old SL5__ tA1 chips didn't do that well. But then again some did.

I had a quick look in the CPU database for the 1.1As and found that 99% of the entries are for SL5ZEs and the speeds range from 1475 to 1694, which are all above 133FSB.

Have a glance at this thread.

- JW

Ralf Hutter · Dec 14, 2002

I'm running a 1.1A at 1.475Mhz in my server. It's the exact same sSpec as your CPU.

I originally had it at 1.525Vcore with the retail HSF, 7-volted. CPU temps at Prime95 load maxxed out around 53-54C.

Since then I lowered the Vcore to default (1.474V) and put an SLK-800 heatsink and 7-volted Panaflo M1A on top of it. CPU temps now max out at 45-46C under Prime95.

I'm running very little cooling because I want to keep this as quiet as possible. It's a server that's running 24/7. I only OCed it "because I could". It looks like I have lots of headroom left, if I ever want to try. Hopefully yours will work well also.

advanR · Dec 14, 2002

the tB1s have a better chance of hitting 1700 and above, whatever the multiplier is. I would say most tA1 are limited to 1600. A tB1 will greatly enhance your chance of getting over 1700.

Taisho · Dec 15, 2002

i myself would have a bad feeling to work on an 1,1 tualceli @ 1,6 because that the celi could die in few weeks.. imho the tualceli shouldn't work about 1,5 GHz, since the biggest celi to buy is an 1,4 one..

advanR · Dec 15, 2002

Thats nonsense. Intel doesnt make higher speed tualerons because they dont want ppl buying them instead of the northwood and williamete celerons, not because they wont go that fast. A 1.4 tualeron will whoop a 1.7 or 1.8 celerons *** in most tests. ...........i think.

Voltage kills cpus, not speed.

Taisho · Dec 15, 2002

are an 1.65V for a TualCeleron within the limit ?

zohott · Dec 15, 2002

I'm Feelin you: got a 1.1a too

I have the same mobo and a 1.1a chip. Currently at 1319 with 512 mB of total memory on 3 sticks of PC133 and a 40 gig Maxtor running WinXp Pro. How do I find out the identity and type of the chip? At default volts it won't run at 133, no post, nothing but black screen. I haven't tried to overvolt, MBM shows a high temp so I'm reluctant to try. I have a copper HSF with a thin coat of AS, so I don't know what's up with that. How do you change the bios settings to keep the video (Ti4200 64MB PNY) and hard disk from freakin and hit 133? I'm looking to get as close to a 50% OC as possible, gives me something to play with until the next upgrade to an Albatron with a 1.8a. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated.

advanR · Dec 15, 2002

yes 1.65 is well within the limits. Some think 1.8v is even okay, but i believe you should stay under 1.75 and keep temps under 45c. Preferably under 40c.

zohott, dont be afraid to put the voltage up a bit. Just keep your eyes on the temperature. If your new to as, you most likely put on too much. You will know if your temps are obsurdly high.

And I dont know how your hard disk or video card could freak out. Matbe im missing something.

JCLW · Dec 15, 2002

advanR said:
Voltage kills cpus, not speed.

Agreed. But heat kills as well.

zohott said:
How do you change the bios settings to keep the video (Ti4200 64MB PNY) and hard disk from freakin and hit 133?

When you get up to 133FSB the 1/4 divder should kick in to drop your PCI down to the regular 33mhz. This is how you tell which chip you have.

Taisho said:
Are an 1.65V for a TualCeleron within the limit ?

Yes, in my opininon 1.65v is fine, as long as you have half decent cooling. I run mine at 1.75v.

- JW

Taisho · Dec 15, 2002

JCLW said:
Yes, in my opininon 1.65v is fine, as long as you have half decent cooling. I run mine at 1.75v.

- JW

I got an 1,1 TualCeli @ 1,54 ( FSB 140 ) @ 1.65 V and Intel retail Cooler, my Temps are at full load at 36°C, the temps in my room are only 18°C ( Germany is quite cold :santa2:

)

Taisho · Dec 15, 2002

but my 3d Marks are only 7600 with TualCeli @ 1,54 GHz and ATI 8500 ( 275 / 275 ) retail..

ol' man · Dec 15, 2002

I got screenies of my 1.4 PIII-s @ 1.8GHz with air cooling. 1.75GHz is stable but LOUD!

It is a SL5 variety and a tA1.

I recently bought a 1.3 tB1 celeron that barely does 1.65GHz. Junk, IMHO! Good for a BX mod but little else.

ol' man · Dec 15, 2002

Taisho said:
but my 3d Marks are only 7600 with TualCeli @ 1,54 GHz and ATI 8500 ( 275 / 275 ) retail..

My 1.7GHz PIII-s and 128mb 8500LE @ 310/310 get around 9500 3dmarks for what they are worth? Nothing.

JCLW · Dec 15, 2002

My dual PIII-800E w/ 8500LE @ 300/300 gets about 6300.

But it plays UT2003 just fine (at 250/250) with all the settings cranked so that's fine with me.

I wish they hadn't cancelled the tB1 PIII-S line with the PIII-1533-S.

The 11.5 multiplier would have been nice.

- JW

mailman · Dec 15, 2002

old silicon..
I have the Soyo TISU and a 1.0A celeron. I found out the BIOS for
some reason won't stay set to 133FSB after a cold boot. It apparently reads the Bsel pins on cold boot. I was able to run stable at 133FSB,
meaning several loops of 3DMark2001, so I then cut the Bsel1 pin and
now the system cold boots to 1.33Ghz 133FSB CAS2. Just keep that in mind.

zohott...
Try CPU-Z for ID
http://www.cpuid.com/

advanR · Dec 15, 2002

Just so you know some boards kick in the 1/4 pci divider way earlier. My cuv4x only goes up to 120 with the 1/3, then 124 is 1/4.

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