Newbie needs Good video card for around $100

sulu · 12-31-02, 02:01 PM

hi guys,

I've got 3 systems right now. one for me, 2 for the family. 2 for the family are Athlon XP system with cpu oclocked to 1700 and 1800 MHZ. They are running GeforceMX2 from my 2 older systems.
I am thinking of getting video card for these 2 systems, but my budget is only around $100 per card.
I have looked at some card came up with following choice.

Geforce 4 TI4200 128mb(around $150) bit expensive.

Geforce 4 TI4200 64MB(around $120) still bit of stretch

ATI 8500LE 128MB (around $100) on budget

Which is best money to performance value? They will be used for the games but for me extra few FPS doesn't make difference. How much performance difference is there between ATI 8500LE and Geforce4 Ti200 128mb? Please help me guys.

By the way i have geforce 3 TI200 on my main machine.

Falcon-K · 12-31-02, 02:21 PM

well u could always get 2 more Ti-200 which are about 85-95$ at newegg or if u prefer ATI now i would go with the 9000 over the 8500 and i personally would spend the little bit of money more to get the Ti-4200 right now which range from 120-170 per card. i think the performance increase over the 8500 is about 20% or so. i maybe wrong if i am someone correct me

i would go for the 9000 or the ti 4200

funnyperson1 · 12-31-02, 02:24 PM

the 8500 is faster than the 9000, i would get that if you cant get the 20$ for ti4200

Evnas · 12-31-02, 02:27 PM

The 8500 IMO is the best buy. It performs near Ti4200 speeds, and is a lot cheaper

OC Noob · 12-31-02, 03:03 PM

Check out this thread.

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=151201

ps you can get a decent 8500le for $90 or less at newegg and replace your Gf3 with it and put the Gf3 in your other computer. The 8500le sits right between the Gf3 and Ti4200 as far as performance. Most people say its about 10% slower then the Ti4200. Oh yeah, if you are into RPGs you might like the 8500le's performance with AF. I've noticed things in the distance become very sharp when AF is turned up.

Falcon-K · 01-01-03, 09:00 PM

whoops forgot that the 8500 was better than the 9000

stupid stupid me

hduong · 01-01-03, 10:12 PM

I would have gotten a 8500le over my 9000 pro, but the pro was on sale and I needed dual monitor support.

TheNamelessOne · 01-02-03, 02:05 PM

I once saw a GF4Ti4200 for $99 Refurbished @ Newegg. Keep checking the refurb section at newegg and you will get some good deals.

lchen66666 · 01-02-03, 03:22 PM

Just wondering if refurb products quality is OK from newegg.

Anyone had bad lucky with refurb products from newegg.

drewthomas14 · 01-02-03, 03:49 PM

i was worried about getting a refurb too. but i ordered a video card and its working just fine right now. so far im 1for1 with the newegg refurbs

Overclocker550 · 01-02-03, 08:33 PM

you can get a ti200 for $69 at pricewatch

or try ebay, the geforce2 pro's go for not much more than the mx, maybe $40-50 and are decent performers

tyshy · 01-02-03, 08:59 PM

well i have an mx400 64mb and im about to upgrade...as a diehard gamer i should be shamed....but my budget is the same as both is combined...200...so im thinkin on the 9500 pro...if someone has a better suggestion plz tell me...otherwise ill stick with my choice.....as for sulu....i would say get the 8500le 128mb ddr........my friend has one and it performs like a champ...great deal for the power u get....i remember when 8500 was cutting edge.....just because there ARE faster cards doesn't mean the games require them....i can play most games well on what im running now.

Jawsome · 01-02-03, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by Falcon-K
whoops forgot that the 8500 was better than the 9000 stupid stupid me

foolish minnesotan moron

Overclocker550 · 01-02-03, 11:44 PM

if $200 is all you can afford get the geforce4 ti4200 64mb for $120

Jawsome · 01-03-03, 12:11 AM

I wuv my Abit Siluro TI4200 for 121.00 at newegg. Its a great value, comes with all the outputs and cables you can imagine! And a free T-SHirt!!

caboob · 01-03-03, 12:58 AM

go with the 8500, i've had similar systems as you have and found that until i stepped up to higher speed CPUs (2.4Ghz+) i've gotten same performance from my 64mb 8500 as with a 4600 nvidia card. save some bux and go ATI.

Overclocker550 · 01-03-03, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by caboob
go with the 8500, i've had similar systems as you have and found that until i stepped up to higher speed CPUs (2.4Ghz+) i've gotten same performance from my 64mb 8500 as with a 4600 nvidia card. save some bux and go ATI.

That could explain the slight performance difference between a geforce2mx and a geforce3 ti500

12-31-02, 02:01 PM	Thread Starter #1
sulu Registered Join Date: Feb 2002	Newbie needs Good video card for around $100 hi guys, I've got 3 systems right now. one for me, 2 for the family. 2 for the family are Athlon XP system with cpu oclocked to 1700 and 1800 MHZ. They are running GeforceMX2 from my 2 older systems. I am thinking of getting video card for these 2 systems, but my budget is only around $100 per card. I have looked at some card came up with following choice. Geforce 4 TI4200 128mb(around $150) bit expensive. Geforce 4 TI4200 64MB(around $120) still bit of stretch ATI 8500LE 128MB (around $100) on budget Which is best money to performance value? They will be used for the games but for me extra few FPS doesn't make difference. How much performance difference is there between ATI 8500LE and Geforce4 Ti200 128mb? Please help me guys. By the way i have geforce 3 TI200 on my main machine.
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12-31-02, 02:21 PM	#2
Falcon-K Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maple Grove, MN	well u could always get 2 more Ti-200 which are about 85-95$ at newegg or if u prefer ATI now i would go with the 9000 over the 8500 and i personally would spend the little bit of money more to get the Ti-4200 right now which range from 120-170 per card. i think the performance increase over the 8500 is about 20% or so. i maybe wrong if i am someone correct me i would go for the 9000 or the ti 4200 __________________ My main rig- Q6600, Abit P35 Pro, Nvidia 8800GT, 8 GB GSkill PC800, , 2xSeagate 250 gb , 600 watt Fortron Blue Storm II power Supply, Audigy 2, Logitech Z680 Speakers Dell 2005FP Monitor
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12-31-02, 02:24 PM	#3
funnyperson1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northern VA	the 8500 is faster than the 9000, i would get that if you cant get the 20$ for ti4200 __________________ "Strong with the fold this boy is, fold you must"-NASSoccer its a shame you cant ban people for being ignorant fanboys.... My Heatware [Gigabyte MA790X-UDP4][PHII 940BE][Thermalright Ultra90][2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC][Palit HD4850][Enhance 5150GH][Windows 7,Ubuntu 12.04]
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12-31-02, 02:27 PM	#4
Evnas Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle, WA	The 8500 IMO is the best buy. It performs near Ti4200 speeds, and is a lot cheaper
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12-31-02, 03:03 PM	#5
OC Noob Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ USA	Check out this thread. http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=151201 ps you can get a decent 8500le for $90 or less at newegg and replace your Gf3 with it and put the Gf3 in your other computer. The 8500le sits right between the Gf3 and Ti4200 as far as performance. Most people say its about 10% slower then the Ti4200. Oh yeah, if you are into RPGs you might like the 8500le's performance with AF. I've noticed things in the distance become very sharp when AF is turned up. __________________ Hail to the King: Opteron 165 w/ DFI Ultra-D w/ BBA 1900XT 512 mb GSkill PC4200 1 GB x 2 74 gb WD Raptor x 2 Raid 0 MSI (ATI550) Tuner w/ Windows XP Media Center Edition & OCZ Powerstream 520 DD TDX H2O block w/ Maze4 GPA block DD D4 pump single 120mm Fan Heater core w/ shroud In Lian-Li fish tank window case RIP (Rest In Pieces): P4 3.0 ghz @ 3.75 ghz Aerocool HT-101 IC7-G Radeon 9800 Pro 430 W Antec True Power
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01-01-03, 09:00 PM	#6
Falcon-K Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maple Grove, MN	whoops forgot that the 8500 was better than the 9000 stupid stupid me __________________ My main rig- Q6600, Abit P35 Pro, Nvidia 8800GT, 8 GB GSkill PC800, , 2xSeagate 250 gb , 600 watt Fortron Blue Storm II power Supply, Audigy 2, Logitech Z680 Speakers Dell 2005FP Monitor
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01-01-03, 10:12 PM	#7
hduong Member Join Date: Jun 2001	I would have gotten a 8500le over my 9000 pro, but the pro was on sale and I needed dual monitor support. __________________ Intel i5 2500k (Stock) 8GB RAM ATI Radeon HD6850 (Stock)
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01-02-03, 02:05 PM	#8
TheNamelessOne Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: under a killing moon	I once saw a GF4Ti4200 for $99 Refurbished @ Newegg. Keep checking the refurb section at newegg and you will get some good deals.
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01-02-03, 03:22 PM	#9
lchen66666 Member Join Date: Nov 2002	is refurb product from newegg OK Just wondering if refurb products quality is OK from newegg. Anyone had bad lucky with refurb products from newegg.
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01-02-03, 03:49 PM	#10
drewthomas14 Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fort Wayne, IN	i was worried about getting a refurb too. but i ordered a video card and its working just fine right now. so far im 1for1 with the newegg refurbs
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01-02-03, 08:33 PM	#11
Overclocker550 Member Join Date: Feb 2002	you can get a ti200 for $69 at pricewatch or try ebay, the geforce2 pro's go for not much more than the mx, maybe $40-50 and are decent performers
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01-02-03, 08:59 PM	#12
tyshy Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Under your desk:)	well i have an mx400 64mb and im about to upgrade...as a diehard gamer i should be shamed....but my budget is the same as both is combined...200...so im thinkin on the 9500 pro...if someone has a better suggestion plz tell me...otherwise ill stick with my choice.....as for sulu....i would say get the 8500le 128mb ddr........my friend has one and it performs like a champ...great deal for the power u get....i remember when 8500 was cutting edge.....just because there ARE faster cards doesn't mean the games require them....i can play most games well on what im running now. __________________ Don't Drown. It will ruin your day. Heatware
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01-02-03, 11:44 PM	#14
Overclocker550 Member Join Date: Feb 2002	if $200 is all you can afford get the geforce4 ti4200 64mb for $120
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01-03-03, 12:11 AM	#15
Jawsome Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maple Grove, Minnesota	I wuv my Abit Siluro TI4200 for 121.00 at newegg. Its a great value, comes with all the outputs and cables you can imagine! And a free T-SHirt!! __________________ Main Rig Mobo: Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 \| Processor: Phenom II 940 \| RAM: 8GB DDR2 1000 \| Video: Radeon 5850 1gb My Heatware
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01-03-03, 12:58 AM	#16
caboob Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seattle, WA	go with the 8500, i've had similar systems as you have and found that until i stepped up to higher speed CPUs (2.4Ghz+) i've gotten same performance from my 64mb 8500 as with a 4600 nvidia card. save some bux and go ATI.
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