Onboard GF2 MX to ATi 8500 64mb DDR = NO CHANGE!? Help!

Morbid · 01-07-03, 07:07 PM

I was recently using my onboard video to game with (GeForce2 MX, sharing 32mb of my 256mb ram). So, I ordered a refurbished ATi 8500 64mb DDR from newegg, running at 275/275 stock. I fire up Quake3 and expect to see atleast over 100FPS.. negative. I got maybe 80something max. I tweaked alot of stuff with Rage3D Tweak v3.6 and even overclocked the card to 300/300. I can break MAYBE 100 if looking into black sky. I was expecting alot more out of this.. did I have too high of hopes? Is something messed up here? Any ideas? I'm desperate!

My system is as follows:

Asus A7N266-VM/AA (nForce 220 board)
AMD XP 1600+ @ stock
256mb Kingston PC2100 @ Turbo timings (will have 512mb tomorrow)
WinXP Pro, SP1.. completely up to date.

Please help

mdcomp · 01-07-03, 07:09 PM

Reformat. Remnents of the old onboard drivers are still around. If you do a clean install of windows your performance should increase.

Morbid · 01-07-03, 07:10 PM

I think i'm going to have to give that a shot, I figured as much. Not that big of a problem really. Thank god for CD-R's

Thanks for the quick response, i'll reformat a little later tonight. I need to anyway to clear off all the stuff I no longer use.

Morbid · 01-07-03, 10:34 PM

I give up, I completely reformatted. Updated WinXP Pro to most recent everything. Direct X 9, Catalyst 3.0... still the same thing and almost the exact same FPS. 300/300 goes over 100FPS, barely, when looking into black sky. I just don't know what to do anymore.. I expected this to outdo the onboard GF2 MX single handedly... but, I guess not? Any other suggestions? Getting really desperate now.

Thanks for all the help so far, I really do appreciate it!

i810 Forever · 01-07-03, 10:47 PM

Turn off Vsync in the ATI control panel. That should get ya above 100fps.

Morbid · 01-07-03, 10:51 PM

I've tweaked it all and got squat back. I was looking to see atleast over 125fps in game.

funnyperson1 · 01-07-03, 10:56 PM

even with your great system, i think you may be processor limited, QuakeIII isnt very stressing on a video card anymore....try overclocking the 1600+ and see if that improves the fps

Morbid · 01-07-03, 11:00 PM

How I wish I could... lol

I think that would cure all. This mobo doesn't allow overclocking unless you modify it. Which, I partially did... but, I need some Defogger Repair/Conductive Ink to get it to maybe work (which is how I should have done it in the first place).

i810 Forever · 01-08-03, 03:11 PM

Maybe the nForce 1's performance is just plain poor?

pby5cat · 01-09-03, 07:58 PM

nise to meet another Nforcer, did u disable the onboard video in the bios?

Bender · 01-09-03, 08:02 PM

You might try CPUFSB for a little overclocking. If it supports your PLL chip you can change the FSB in windows! You have a great vid card and I dont think thats whats holding you back. Isnt 100 FPS enough in quake? Try something like UT2003 and you will notice a huge performance gain with your new card.

DaddyB · 01-09-03, 10:21 PM

Im pretty sure quake has the max fps set at 100, so the fps just hovers around there. I searched around for the correct command but all I have found is this:

seta com_maxfps "140"

you could try setting it to 0 to see if that will disable the max fps or just set it to something like 400. Im not sure if that is the right command but I know there is one.

OC Noob · 01-09-03, 11:20 PM

Hey, that system looks familiar.

I'd like to see what kind of performance you get in UT2k3 too

01-07-03, 07:07 PM	Thread Starter #1
Morbid Nitpicker Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas	Onboard GF2 MX to ATi 8500 64mb DDR = NO CHANGE!? Help! I was recently using my onboard video to game with (GeForce2 MX, sharing 32mb of my 256mb ram). So, I ordered a refurbished ATi 8500 64mb DDR from newegg, running at 275/275 stock. I fire up Quake3 and expect to see atleast over 100FPS.. negative. I got maybe 80something max. I tweaked alot of stuff with Rage3D Tweak v3.6 and even overclocked the card to 300/300. I can break MAYBE 100 if looking into black sky. I was expecting alot more out of this.. did I have too high of hopes? Is something messed up here? Any ideas? I'm desperate! My system is as follows: Asus A7N266-VM/AA (nForce 220 board) AMD XP 1600+ @ stock 256mb Kingston PC2100 @ Turbo timings (will have 512mb tomorrow) WinXP Pro, SP1.. completely up to date. Please help __________________ CPU: E6600 @ 3.2GHz (356x9 - 4:5 1425MHz FSB - 1.4v) Mobo: Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mem: G.Skill 2x1GB PC2-6400 HZ (4-4-4-12-20 - 2.2v) Vid: eVGA 8800GTS 640MB @ 630/1040 PSU: Corsair 620HX HDD: 2x 150GB Raptors (RAID 0) \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 LCD: Dell 2007WFP
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01-07-03, 07:09 PM	#2
mdcomp Classic Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New Jersey	Reformat. Remnents of the old onboard drivers are still around. If you do a clean install of windows your performance should increase. __________________ Become a fan on Facebook! \| Help improve overclockers.com! Get involved! \| Follow us on Twitter! Which Moderator should I message if I have a problem? Take Your Posts to the Next Level Heatware
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01-07-03, 07:10 PM	Thread Starter #3
Morbid Nitpicker Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas	I think i'm going to have to give that a shot, I figured as much. Not that big of a problem really. Thank god for CD-R's Thanks for the quick response, i'll reformat a little later tonight. I need to anyway to clear off all the stuff I no longer use. __________________ CPU: E6600 @ 3.2GHz (356x9 - 4:5 1425MHz FSB - 1.4v) Mobo: Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mem: G.Skill 2x1GB PC2-6400 HZ (4-4-4-12-20 - 2.2v) Vid: eVGA 8800GTS 640MB @ 630/1040 PSU: Corsair 620HX HDD: 2x 150GB Raptors (RAID 0) \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 LCD: Dell 2007WFP
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01-07-03, 10:34 PM	Thread Starter #4
Morbid Nitpicker Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas	I give up, I completely reformatted. Updated WinXP Pro to most recent everything. Direct X 9, Catalyst 3.0... still the same thing and almost the exact same FPS. 300/300 goes over 100FPS, barely, when looking into black sky. I just don't know what to do anymore.. I expected this to outdo the onboard GF2 MX single handedly... but, I guess not? Any other suggestions? Getting really desperate now. Thanks for all the help so far, I really do appreciate it! __________________ CPU: E6600 @ 3.2GHz (356x9 - 4:5 1425MHz FSB - 1.4v) Mobo: Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mem: G.Skill 2x1GB PC2-6400 HZ (4-4-4-12-20 - 2.2v) Vid: eVGA 8800GTS 640MB @ 630/1040 PSU: Corsair 620HX HDD: 2x 150GB Raptors (RAID 0) \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 LCD: Dell 2007WFP
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01-07-03, 10:47 PM	#5
i810 Forever Member Join Date: Apr 2002	Turn off Vsync in the ATI control panel. That should get ya above 100fps.
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01-07-03, 10:51 PM	Thread Starter #6
Morbid Nitpicker Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas	I've tweaked it all and got squat back. I was looking to see atleast over 125fps in game. __________________ CPU: E6600 @ 3.2GHz (356x9 - 4:5 1425MHz FSB - 1.4v) Mobo: Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mem: G.Skill 2x1GB PC2-6400 HZ (4-4-4-12-20 - 2.2v) Vid: eVGA 8800GTS 640MB @ 630/1040 PSU: Corsair 620HX HDD: 2x 150GB Raptors (RAID 0) \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 LCD: Dell 2007WFP
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01-07-03, 10:56 PM	#7
funnyperson1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northern VA	even with your great system, i think you may be processor limited, QuakeIII isnt very stressing on a video card anymore....try overclocking the 1600+ and see if that improves the fps __________________ "Strong with the fold this boy is, fold you must"-NASSoccer its a shame you cant ban people for being ignorant fanboys.... My Heatware [Gigabyte MA790X-UDP4][PHII 940BE][Thermalright Ultra90][2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC][Palit HD4850][Enhance 5150GH][Windows 7,Ubuntu 12.04]
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01-07-03, 11:00 PM	Thread Starter #8
Morbid Nitpicker Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas	How I wish I could... lol I think that would cure all. This mobo doesn't allow overclocking unless you modify it. Which, I partially did... but, I need some Defogger Repair/Conductive Ink to get it to maybe work (which is how I should have done it in the first place). __________________ CPU: E6600 @ 3.2GHz (356x9 - 4:5 1425MHz FSB - 1.4v) Mobo: Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mem: G.Skill 2x1GB PC2-6400 HZ (4-4-4-12-20 - 2.2v) Vid: eVGA 8800GTS 640MB @ 630/1040 PSU: Corsair 620HX HDD: 2x 150GB Raptors (RAID 0) \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 LCD: Dell 2007WFP
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01-08-03, 03:11 PM	#9
i810 Forever Member Join Date: Apr 2002	Maybe the nForce 1's performance is just plain poor?
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01-09-03, 07:58 PM	#10
pby5cat Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: california	nise to meet another Nforcer, did u disable the onboard video in the bios? __________________ Intel Q6600 L727A Asus Maximus Formula 2X2gb Gskill DDRII-1000 2X HIS ATI HD3870 in Crossfire (835,1206) WD 150Gb Raptor and Maxtor 250Gb DiamondMax10 2X Samsung DVD-RW DL SATA Silverstone OP850 Thermalright Ultra 120 Xtreme (lapped) thats it, and proud of it. My Heatware
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01-09-03, 08:02 PM	#11
Bender Mysteriously Changing Senior Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: In Thelemac's Basement Eating the Chickens	You might try CPUFSB for a little overclocking. If it supports your PLL chip you can change the FSB in windows! You have a great vid card and I dont think thats whats holding you back. Isnt 100 FPS enough in quake? Try something like UT2003 and you will notice a huge performance gain with your new card. __________________ Abit IP35-E Q6600 @ 4GHz or bust Phase Change Cooling by me 2GB Crucial Ballistix ATI X1650 Seagate 7200.10 320GB SilverStone Zeus ST56ZF 560w Soyo 24" LCD
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01-09-03, 10:21 PM	#12
DaddyB Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	Im pretty sure quake has the max fps set at 100, so the fps just hovers around there. I searched around for the correct command but all I have found is this: seta com_maxfps "140" you could try setting it to 0 to see if that will disable the max fps or just set it to something like 400. Im not sure if that is the right command but I know there is one. __________________ Mobile XP2500@2700MHz 208x13 @2.0V†††††††Dell Dimension 8100 P4 1.3 Abit NF7-S, 1024MB Corsair XMS3200††††††††††512MB PC800 RDRAM, T.B. Santa Cruz ATi Radeon X850XT, Klipsch PM 5.1†††††††††††AIW Radeon 9800, 17" Trinitron Dangerden RBX, 47c load, Dell 2005FPW†††††††Altec Lansing 4.1, THX certified
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01-09-03, 11:20 PM	#13
OC Noob Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ USA	Hey, that system looks familiar. I'd like to see what kind of performance you get in UT2k3 too __________________ Hail to the King: Opteron 165 w/ DFI Ultra-D w/ BBA 1900XT 512 mb GSkill PC4200 1 GB x 2 74 gb WD Raptor x 2 Raid 0 MSI (ATI550) Tuner w/ Windows XP Media Center Edition & OCZ Powerstream 520 DD TDX H2O block w/ Maze4 GPA block DD D4 pump single 120mm Fan Heater core w/ shroud In Lian-Li fish tank window case RIP (Rest In Pieces): P4 3.0 ghz @ 3.75 ghz Aerocool HT-101 IC7-G Radeon 9800 Pro 430 W Antec True Power
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