[Cowboy X]

Apparently it a price at Compusa . Saw this over at [H] news page .

[Emericana]

that is good then. the internet price will be $350-400

i was just there today and they charge $65 for a floppy drive and i am not joking in any way. i didnt check the graphichs cards but last time i did (during the summer), the radeon 8500 non AIW just plain was $300.

first off, [H] is not a credible source. second off compusa overcharges stuff SO much, who cares what they sell it for?

[Evnas]

Originally posted by Emericana
that is good then. the internet price will be $350-400

first off, [H] is not a credible source. second off compusa overcharges stuff SO much, who cares what they sell it for?

I dont know where u got the info that HardOCP isnt a reliable source for info. T om's Hardware is unreliable...HardOCP, in the 5+ years its been around, made ONE mistake

Thee price at CompUSA does matter...because thats where most ppl go to buy their stuff. They sell stuff at MSRP, just like everyother store does.

And it wont be that cheap online for months. How long did it take the 9700 Pro to go down $100? Quite a while.

[cursor]

Originally posted by Emericana
that is good then. the internet price will be $350-400

The first couple of months it's out, I bet you'll be lucky to find a bare card for $425. With all the production problems reported, and this being an anticipated release, supply's going to be short. I think online prices for retail boxes will be about 5% less than CompUSA with delivery included (about $475).

FYI, just got my Maximum PC today and was checking out the heatsink on that thing. It's more like a cooling system. No way I want to put one of those in my computer. It'll spontaneously combust when you hit the power button!

[Fuzzy]

One reason why i don't like to buy hardware from retail stores is cause of the .06% state tax Of course if you buy it from the store you can easily return for a new one without the wait and u can buy right from the store, but i like internet shoppin now cuz its cheaper, but it has its pro's and cons too just like shoppin at compusa.

[Cowboy X]

Basically what the Compusa leak does is that it lets us know exactly what the MSRP or list price is . Not everywhere will sell it for that $$$ , most online places for example will be cheaper but not to the extent that it will fall between $350 and $400 unless the list price changes . For example the 9700 Pro when released had a list price of $399 and only ATI and a few retailers actually sold it for that $$$ . Most places had prices of $389 to 379 for the ATI built card and one was for $369 ( Sapphire ) . In the end all the initial cards were made by ATI and the only thing my built by ATI got me is a solid sure warranty . Luckily though I got a 20% off deal at Gamespot and got my card for $319 in the first month .

But I was a lucky one as the most ppl could only get a card up to $30 cheaper than MSRP . I don't expect the FX to be any different , in fact some cards like the Asus deluxe models may well cost more than MSRP !

Another warning , the initial cards will apparently all be made by Nvidia so only cooling soloutions , warranties and bundles will vary between vcard makers initially . Therefore don't buy the most expensive one, and a company with normally high oc ability such as Gainward will likely be no different from anyone else's offering at the beginning .

[breez]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1042110820

Ouch...

[Goo Kenson]

Originally posted by Evnas


I dont know where u got the info that HardOCP isnt a reliable source for info. T om's Hardware is unreliable...HardOCP, in the 5+ years its been around, made ONE mistake

Thee price at CompUSA does matter...because thats where most ppl go to buy their stuff. They sell stuff at MSRP, just like everyother store does.

And it wont be that cheap online for months. How long did it take the 9700 Pro to go down $100? Quite a while.

Are you ****in kidding? CompUSA overcharges for every thing they sell. Last time I was there, a few months ago, they were charging $100 for an XP1600+, and that was while it was $50 on Newegg.

If the CompUSA price is $499, I imagine it will be $50-60 cheaper at Newegg or some other stores.

[Cowboy X]

GooKenson ................ don't make those assumptions . the problem with places like CompUsa and PCMall and Amazon etc is that they start out at MSRP or near MSRP and their prices hardly fall . I'm certain there are probably some Radeon 8500 and GF 4 products on their sites that still cost >$250 . The XP 1600 is an old product by enthusiast standards , the problem is that CompuSA just doesn't adjust their prices as fast or as reasonably as Newegg for example .They know that there will always be newbies and buisnesses which will make the mistake and buy from them .

One therefore can't say that the $50 difference in an old product will be replicated in a new product .

[BigJk-47]

Most stores gain profit by charging triple of the wholesale. The intital investment has to be paid for and most want to make double the profit

[Goo Kenson]

Originally posted by Cowboy X
GooKenson ................ don't make those assumptions . the problem with places like CompUsa and PCMall and Amazon etc is that they start out at MSRP or near MSRP and their prices hardly fall . I'm certain there are probably some Radeon 8500 and GF 4 products on their sites that still cost >$250 . The XP 1600 is an old product by enthusiast standards , the problem is that CompuSA just doesn't adjust their prices as fast or as reasonably as Newegg for example .They know that there will always be newbies and buisnesses which will make the mistake and buy from them .

One therefore can't say that the $50 difference in an old product will be replicated in a new product .

So they may not actually overcharge, but the situation is still the same.

That situation is: people will be able to get it a lot cheaper than the MSRP, a lot cheaper than whatever CompUSA sells it at.

[Cowboy X]

Cheaper ............ definitely .

Alot cheaper .................... depends on how you define 'alot' . initially when the card is only a month to 2.5 months old I don't expect the savings in shopping elsewhere to be more than 20-30 at best . unless Nvidia changes their MSRP . As the months go by and the card gets cheaper the gap will widen 'cause everyone will lower their prices accordingly, 'cept for ppl like CompUSA who will sell it at or close to the MSRP for as long as possible .

[quegyboe]

I wish I could be one of those people who can afford new gfx cards when they first come out. I pretty much have to keep my upgrading to one series behind the current card out, so I can handle the prices.

[Goo Kenson]

Originally posted by Cowboy X
Cheaper ............ definitely .

Alot cheaper .................... depends on how you define 'alot' . initially when the card is only a month to 2.5 months old I don't expect the savings in shopping elsewhere to be more than 20-30 at best . unless Nvidia changes their MSRP . As the months go by and the card gets cheaper the gap will widen 'cause everyone will lower their prices accordingly, 'cept for ppl like CompUSA who will sell it at or close to the MSRP for as long as possible .

Well I don't plan on buying it right away. Within maybe two months of it's release there will probably be a significant difference between the MSRP and what you can get it for if you look in the right places.

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by quegyboe
I wish I could be one of those people who can afford new gfx cards when they first come out. I pretty much have to keep my upgrading to one series behind the current card out, so I can handle the prices.

dont wish, because imho sinking 500$ into an FX is just plain stupid, im glad i know that no video card is worth more than 150$ of my money....and you should be too

[cursor]

Originally posted by funnyperson1


dont wish, because imho sinking 500$ into an FX is just plain stupid, im glad i know that no video card is worth more than 150$ of my money....and you should be too

Yup. If you think about it, there's NO GAME you can't play with a $150-$200 video card. Having a card like that is just a penis thing.

[Ugmore Baggage]

From the Xbit article, " 699 Euro, or about $700". I don't know what the exchange rate is but I'm almost positive it is not 1:1.

On penises, doesn't that describe gaming in a nutshell?

edit, I stand corrected, the rate is currently about $1.05 usd/euro

[tatanka]

dont wish, because imho sinking 500$ into an FX is just plain stupid, im glad i know that no video card is worth more than 150$ of my money....and you should be too

that's why you get a job that gives you an $800-a-year technology bonus to blow on PC hardware or technology classes... I'll be a happy camper when they start coming out in february

[cursor]

Originally posted by Ugmore Baggage
From the Xbit article, " 699 Euro, or about $700". I don't know what the exchange rate is but I'm almost positive it is not 1:1.

On penises, doesn't that describe gaming in a nutshell?

edit, I stand corrected, the rate is currently about $1.05 usd/euro

Yeah, that exchange rate is about right from the last time I checked. But you gotta remember we don't have a 22% VAT built into the price of our hardware, so I'm guessing that the price will still be US$500 in North America. But you gotta figure that if somebody's willing to pay $500 for it, somebody's gotta be willing to pay $700 for it, too. Just not me!

[mbentley]

well one thing is for sure... it won't be very cheap... i am not going to be standing in line to blow my paycheck until i see them working correctly and maybe with a nice little price drop... i can't afford to lose that much money on a graphics card... i figure i will either get a gffx at the end of it's production life or just skip this round of cards... i am sure my gf4 ti 4400 can hold it's own for a while...