SCSI vs. IDE

kaltag · 03-26-03, 12:44 AM

I'm putting together a new system strictly for production purposes like video editing, photo editing, and 3d modeling/animation with maya 4.5. The system will be a dual processor xp2500, 2 gig DDR RAM, Radeon 9700, M-audio 410, on MSI K7D master L, gigabit ethernet. The only thing I haven't finalized yet is whether to use 100 gig IDE ATA133 8MB cache or SCSI drives. I have had very little experience with SCSI and have heard that with the new ATA133 drives they are actually starting to outperform SCSI drives. Any input would be helpful on this. I'm looking for maximum performance in this system. price is somewhat of an issue as I would like to keep it under $150 if possible. I'm not going to pay an extra 80$ for a 5-6% improvement. thanks for any input on this.

Omega Destroyer · 03-26-03, 12:47 AM

As far as I know IDE doesn't even come close to the SCSIs. Where did you hear about that?
If you're doing a lot of video editing and opening and saving large files, you're better off going with a SCSI, and using a large capacity slower drive for storage purposes, while you do your editing on a smaller SCSI

Crash893 · 03-26-03, 12:57 AM

well if you need pure preformance i guess scsi does it

personly i would do raid or something

i hate scsi ( mostly out of ignorance) but it seems to complicated to many flavors and compantablity issues

also you can just run down to the store and grab a scsi drive

kaltag · 03-26-03, 01:22 AM

I seem to remember that scsi had a throughput of 80MB/sec where as ATA133 is 133MB/sec. Perhaps I am once again wrong? what exactly is the throughput on scsi drives anyway? haven't much out side those 15,000rpm baracudas but they don't specify a throughput. thanks so far.

XWRed1 · 03-26-03, 03:45 AM

Fastest scsi controllers you can buy do 320MB/sec. They've been around for a few years now. The high rpm drives mainly excel with seek times. If you want alot of numbers you should check out Storagereview.

TheMightyBuck · 03-26-03, 07:50 AM

ata 133 DOES NOT mean u get transfers of 133 mb/s. have u noticed how only maxtor made ata133 drives? that's because WD and IBM realize that ata100 is not even being fully utilized yet, so why bother with ata133?it's just the interface that can handle 133 mb/s, and not the actuall drive. if price is an issue, go with ide. if performance is key, go with scsi. if you want both, u need might do something like this.... 5 small (10 or 20 gb?) ide drives hooked up in RAID 5. you'll need to buy a raid card, as most onboard raid only support raid 0, 1, and/or 0+1. i dunno if u can get the highest performance for 150 bucks, but RAID 5 will be your answer if you want it.

03-26-03, 12:44 AM	Thread Starter #1
kaltag Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Boise Idaho	SCSI vs. IDE I'm putting together a new system strictly for production purposes like video editing, photo editing, and 3d modeling/animation with maya 4.5. The system will be a dual processor xp2500, 2 gig DDR RAM, Radeon 9700, M-audio 410, on MSI K7D master L, gigabit ethernet. The only thing I haven't finalized yet is whether to use 100 gig IDE ATA133 8MB cache or SCSI drives. I have had very little experience with SCSI and have heard that with the new ATA133 drives they are actually starting to outperform SCSI drives. Any input would be helpful on this. I'm looking for maximum performance in this system. price is somewhat of an issue as I would like to keep it under $150 if possible. I'm not going to pay an extra 80$ for a 5-6% improvement. thanks for any input on this. __________________ `______ /l ,[____], l---L –0lllllll0- ()_) ()_)--o-)_)
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Crash893 "The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed." Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: 22033	well if you need pure preformance i guess scsi does it personly i would do raid or something i hate scsi ( mostly out of ignorance) but it seems to complicated to many flavors and compantablity issues also you can just run down to the store and grab a scsi drive __________________ My Prime95 stats Huzza 1004.793 Years total Noli turbare circulos meos! i'm moving to Theory, Everything works there ' I want to be the unwobbling pivot at the center of an ever-revolving universe; I want to be still.'
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03-26-03, 01:22 AM	Thread Starter #4
kaltag Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Boise Idaho	I seem to remember that scsi had a throughput of 80MB/sec where as ATA133 is 133MB/sec. Perhaps I am once again wrong? what exactly is the throughput on scsi drives anyway? haven't much out side those 15,000rpm baracudas but they don't specify a throughput. thanks so far. __________________ `______ /l ,[____], l---L –0lllllll0- ()_) ()_)--o-)_)
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03-26-03, 03:45 AM	#5
XWRed1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001	Fastest scsi controllers you can buy do 320MB/sec. They've been around for a few years now. The high rpm drives mainly excel with seek times. If you want alot of numbers you should check out Storagereview.
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03-26-03, 07:50 AM	#6
TheMightyBuck Banned for being a BAD TRADER aka a Troll Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Green Bay, WI USA	ata 133 DOES NOT mean u get transfers of 133 mb/s. have u noticed how only maxtor made ata133 drives? that's because WD and IBM realize that ata100 is not even being fully utilized yet, so why bother with ata133?it's just the interface that can handle 133 mb/s, and not the actuall drive. if price is an issue, go with ide. if performance is key, go with scsi. if you want both, u need might do something like this.... 5 small (10 or 20 gb?) ide drives hooked up in RAID 5. you'll need to buy a raid card, as most onboard raid only support raid 0, 1, and/or 0+1. i dunno if u can get the highest performance for 150 bucks, but RAID 5 will be your answer if you want it.
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