A little help please with a P4 1.7ghz C1

mongoled · 04-10-03, 11:33 AM

Hello guys, Ive got a friends old P4 chip here and would like some info with regards to its overclockabilty.

Im just waitin on some parts so cant do anything with it yet so was hoping for some info abt this chip. Here are the stats:

1.7ghz/256/400/1.75v
SL5N9 Costa Rica
3125A791-1353

Ive read up a little and i know its a C1 core if this helps. I have very little knowledge of Pentium systems.

Thanxs

deathman20 · 04-10-03, 11:48 AM

Well sorry to say but its not a C1 and its not a Northwood. Its an old willy. There slow and you can bearly overclock these buggers. I really don't know much on older P4's but just benchmark wise a 1.6a Northwood would beat that in tests without a problem. Correct me if im wrong on this.

mirko_3 · 04-10-03, 11:50 AM

correct. my willy's overclock is something rare... and it's a very bad overclock compared to northwoods...

deathman20 · 04-10-03, 12:57 PM

Wow that is a rare overclock for a willy.

flapperhead · 04-10-03, 04:15 PM

well guy u are right it is a c1 stepping . unfortunately its a c1 stepping based on the older 18 micron process.sorry, Its not gonna crank up very well.If you are new to p4's i see how you could confuse it with the newer northwoods...

mongoled · 04-17-03, 01:31 PM

Thanks for confirming that guys for me, as for confusing it with a Northwood (flapperhead) who mentioned northwood?

lol.

So this is a 0.18micron chip, what were these called? Is it the Williamete core, something along those lines i think. Well i will pass the bad news onto my friend. What sort of overclock do u think Im looking at minimum wise, a 100mhz or so?

Cos if thats the case I wont bother getting better cooling for the chip.

Thanxs again any moer information would be gladly accepted.

L8rz guys.

tio · 04-17-03, 02:52 PM

I used to have that same chip. I got it up to 1954 MHz at 1.85v after running it @ 1904 MHz for a couple of months.

batboy · 04-17-03, 03:55 PM

If you're lucky, a Willamette might hit 2 gig with good cooling, but usually not a lot more.

mongoled · 04-17-03, 04:59 PM

Hmm when i was looking in the mobos bios I couldnt find an option to adjust the voltage. The mobo is a GB-8IDX, I downloded the latest bios and still no Vcore adjustments.

:-(

Looks like hes gonna have to do with a tiny overclock. I dont know if this is relevant to the chip or not but when running prime95 some runs will crash on the first run whilst others will run for ages without a problem.

If this makes any sense to anybody Id be glad to hear from you.

Thanxs to all again.

tio · 04-17-03, 05:54 PM

You could try the willamette vidpin mod to raise the voltage to 1.85v: http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/p4mod/

I did this to my Willamette and it worked perfectly. If you decide to do this, just make sure you're carefull.

Wedge1212 · 04-18-03, 11:42 AM

heh, my 1.7 is a freak'n mosnster compared to most willies.....check out the sig. It can be done if your chip loves you

04-10-03, 11:33 AM	Thread Starter #1
mongoled Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sotira, Cyprus	A little help please with a P4 1.7ghz C1 Hello guys, Ive got a friends old P4 chip here and would like some info with regards to its overclockabilty. Im just waitin on some parts so cant do anything with it yet so was hoping for some info abt this chip. Here are the stats: 1.7ghz/256/400/1.75v SL5N9 Costa Rica 3125A791-1353 Ive read up a little and i know its a C1 core if this helps. I have very little knowledge of Pentium systems. Thanxs __________________ 24/7 Settings Tagan TG1100-U33 1100w DFI 790FXB-M2RSH PhenomII X4 965 C3 0944APMW OCZ (2x2GB) PC2-8500C5 Platinum Series ATI HD3400 256MB 4000mhz \| 2600mhz \| 1.488v \| 200 x 20 \| 1066mhz \| 5-5-5-15-24 Apogee XT \| Dangerden Z-Chipset \| 1/2" ID Swiftech D5 MCP655 \| EK-D5 X-TOP Rev.2 Thermochill PA120.3 \| 6 x 1850rpm Scythe GT @ 5v EK-Multioption Res 250
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04-10-03, 11:48 AM	#2
deathman20 High Speed Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Where the Cheese Heads Live	Well sorry to say but its not a C1 and its not a Northwood. Its an old willy. There slow and you can bearly overclock these buggers. I really don't know much on older P4's but just benchmark wise a 1.6a Northwood would beat that in tests without a problem. Correct me if im wrong on this. __________________ -=The Gamer=- MSI Z68A-GD65 (G3) \| i5 2500k @ 4.5Ghz \| 1.3875V \| 28C Idle / 65C Load (LinX) 8Gig G.Skill Ripjaw PC3-12800 9-9-9-24 @ 1600Mhz w/ 1.5V \| TR Ultra eXtreme 120 w/ 2 Fans Sapphire 7950 VaporX 1150/1500 w/ 1.2V/1.5V \| 32C Idle / 64C Load \| 2x 128Gig Crucial M4 SSD's BitFenix Shinobi Window Case \| SilverStone DA750 \| Dell 2405FPW 24" Screen -=The Server=- Synology DS1511+ \| Dual Core 1.8Ghz CPU \| 30C Idle / 38C Load 3 Gig PC2-6400 \| 3x Samsung F4 2TB Raid5 \| 2x Samsung F4 2TB Heat
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04-10-03, 11:50 AM	#3
mirko_3 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Italy	correct. my willy's overclock is something rare... and it's a very bad overclock compared to northwoods...
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04-10-03, 12:57 PM	#4
deathman20 High Speed Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Where the Cheese Heads Live	Wow that is a rare overclock for a willy. __________________ -=The Gamer=- MSI Z68A-GD65 (G3) \| i5 2500k @ 4.5Ghz \| 1.3875V \| 28C Idle / 65C Load (LinX) 8Gig G.Skill Ripjaw PC3-12800 9-9-9-24 @ 1600Mhz w/ 1.5V \| TR Ultra eXtreme 120 w/ 2 Fans Sapphire 7950 VaporX 1150/1500 w/ 1.2V/1.5V \| 32C Idle / 64C Load \| 2x 128Gig Crucial M4 SSD's BitFenix Shinobi Window Case \| SilverStone DA750 \| Dell 2405FPW 24" Screen -=The Server=- Synology DS1511+ \| Dual Core 1.8Ghz CPU \| 30C Idle / 38C Load 3 Gig PC2-6400 \| 3x Samsung F4 2TB Raid5 \| 2x Samsung F4 2TB Heat
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04-10-03, 04:15 PM	#5
flapperhead Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: wash dc area	well guy u are right it is a c1 stepping . unfortunately its a c1 stepping based on the older 18 micron process.sorry, Its not gonna crank up very well.If you are new to p4's i see how you could confuse it with the newer northwoods...
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04-17-03, 01:31 PM	Thread Starter #6
mongoled Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sotira, Cyprus	Thanks for confirming that guys for me, as for confusing it with a Northwood (flapperhead) who mentioned northwood? lol. So this is a 0.18micron chip, what were these called? Is it the Williamete core, something along those lines i think. Well i will pass the bad news onto my friend. What sort of overclock do u think Im looking at minimum wise, a 100mhz or so? Cos if thats the case I wont bother getting better cooling for the chip. Thanxs again any moer information would be gladly accepted. L8rz guys. __________________ 24/7 Settings Tagan TG1100-U33 1100w DFI 790FXB-M2RSH PhenomII X4 965 C3 0944APMW OCZ (2x2GB) PC2-8500C5 Platinum Series ATI HD3400 256MB 4000mhz \| 2600mhz \| 1.488v \| 200 x 20 \| 1066mhz \| 5-5-5-15-24 Apogee XT \| Dangerden Z-Chipset \| 1/2" ID Swiftech D5 MCP655 \| EK-D5 X-TOP Rev.2 Thermochill PA120.3 \| 6 x 1850rpm Scythe GT @ 5v EK-Multioption Res 250
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04-17-03, 02:52 PM	#7
tio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hyrule	I used to have that same chip. I got it up to 1954 MHz at 1.85v after running it @ 1904 MHz for a couple of months. __________________ ► 2.4C (SL6Z3) @ 3.9 GHz w/ 1.70v (FSB = 325 MHz \| System Bus = 1.3 GHz) ► Asus P4C800-E Deluxe (rev. 1.02) "droop", vDIMM, and vAGP modded with heatsinks on all FETs, Southbridge, and clock generator ► Prometeia Mach I ► Corsair XMS 3500 [BH-5 chips] (2 x 512MB) @ 2-6-2-2 w/ 3.23v ► eVGA 6800 GT @ 435 core / 1173 mem (modified BIOS - 1.4v) ► 2 x 74 GB Raptors in RAID-0 (64K stripe size) ► Antec TruePower 550 "I woke up today thinking I will one day die. I wonder if one day I'll wake up thinking that I'm going to live."
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04-17-03, 03:55 PM	#8
batboy Senior Moment Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas, USA	If you're lucky, a Willamette might hit 2 gig with good cooling, but usually not a lot more. __________________ 2600K, Asus P8P67 Deluxe, 2X2GB G.Skill Pi PC3-2133, PC & Cooling 750W watercooled: Eheim 1048 pump, Swiftech Apogee GTX and 2X120mm rad FS020 case, OCZ SSD, Sapphire HD 6950, Acer X241W 24" widescreen
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04-17-03, 04:59 PM	Thread Starter #9
mongoled Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sotira, Cyprus	Hmm when i was looking in the mobos bios I couldnt find an option to adjust the voltage. The mobo is a GB-8IDX, I downloded the latest bios and still no Vcore adjustments. :-( Looks like hes gonna have to do with a tiny overclock. I dont know if this is relevant to the chip or not but when running prime95 some runs will crash on the first run whilst others will run for ages without a problem. If this makes any sense to anybody Id be glad to hear from you. Thanxs to all again. __________________ 24/7 Settings Tagan TG1100-U33 1100w DFI 790FXB-M2RSH PhenomII X4 965 C3 0944APMW OCZ (2x2GB) PC2-8500C5 Platinum Series ATI HD3400 256MB 4000mhz \| 2600mhz \| 1.488v \| 200 x 20 \| 1066mhz \| 5-5-5-15-24 Apogee XT \| Dangerden Z-Chipset \| 1/2" ID Swiftech D5 MCP655 \| EK-D5 X-TOP Rev.2 Thermochill PA120.3 \| 6 x 1850rpm Scythe GT @ 5v EK-Multioption Res 250
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04-17-03, 05:54 PM	#10
tio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hyrule	You could try the willamette vidpin mod to raise the voltage to 1.85v: http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/p4mod/ I did this to my Willamette and it worked perfectly. If you decide to do this, just make sure you're carefull. __________________ ► 2.4C (SL6Z3) @ 3.9 GHz w/ 1.70v (FSB = 325 MHz \| System Bus = 1.3 GHz) ► Asus P4C800-E Deluxe (rev. 1.02) "droop", vDIMM, and vAGP modded with heatsinks on all FETs, Southbridge, and clock generator ► Prometeia Mach I ► Corsair XMS 3500 [BH-5 chips] (2 x 512MB) @ 2-6-2-2 w/ 3.23v ► eVGA 6800 GT @ 435 core / 1173 mem (modified BIOS - 1.4v) ► 2 x 74 GB Raptors in RAID-0 (64K stripe size) ► Antec TruePower 550 "I woke up today thinking I will one day die. I wonder if one day I'll wake up thinking that I'm going to live."
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04-18-03, 11:42 AM	#11
Wedge1212 Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Waco / Coppell, Texas	heh, my 1.7 is a freak'n mosnster compared to most willies.....check out the sig. It can be done if your chip loves you
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