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AMD900

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can someone show me what to do and how to do it. i would llike to get a better ping. right now im getting 400ms to 450ms.
 
You can probably try all tweaks but you will not really be able to lower it to your goal.
 
Some people 'like me' are just stuck on dialsuck because of the rural places we live. You broadband users really like to hammer down on just how much you think everyone in the world has broadband access. You guys like to make us feel like were just cheap and don't want to pay the extra costs for broadband. I would pay $200/month for a 512k line in this small town if it were available. I can use dialup or I can buy a T1 for $1300/month. So lighten up on the dude a little. If your lucky enough to live where fast internet is offered, be grateful.

As for tweaking your modem, the best thing you can do is the following...... buy an external model, then run some traceroutes. See what ping your getting to your gateway server. Which is the very first server your connected to, it belongs to your ISP. If your latency is real good to that first HOP, then keep going, find out where your bottleneck is. I get 100ms ping to my gateway and 200-250 to gaming servers. Chances are you will find, either your ISP sucks, your modem sucks, or your phoneline sucks. Replacing all 3 might be your solution. No tweaks in the world will ever bring your latency down enough to worry about.
 
just b/c i want u to know where i live and y i cant get cable or other. go to mapquest and look up INGOLD, NC or 28446 and i live 2 miles from there.


hey wiz how do i do all of that?
 
You do all of that by opeing a dos prompt. And typing commands. Start with a traceroute to google.com. Type this:

tracert www.google.com

and let it finish, the very first machine you ping is the gateway, her is an example taken from me.

C:\Documents and Settings\Nick>tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.google.com [216.239.57.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 154 ms 132 ms 129 ms ip-66-45-192-2.nw-tel.com [66.45.192.2]
2 127 ms 130 ms 131 ms ip-66-45-192-1.nw-tel.com [66.45.192.1]
3 132 ms 129 ms 132 ms fe-2-0-1-term-bh-wen.nw-tel.com [66.45.205.193]

4 155 ms 134 ms 135 ms border25s.fe5-3.nwtel-1.sea.pnap.net [206.191.14
4.65]
5 136 ms 149 ms 134 ms core3.ge3-0-bbnet2.sea.pnap.net [206.253.192.195
]
6 144 ms 138 ms 145 ms 208.172.81.133
7 164 ms 149 ms 158 ms dcr1-loopback.SantaClara.cw.net [208.172.146.99]

8 158 ms 187 ms 155 ms ibr01-p5-0.sntc05.exodus.net [208.172.156.74]
9 150 ms 181 ms 156 ms csr21-ve243.SantaClarasc4.cw.net [216.34.3.11]
10 150 ms 164 ms 160 ms google-exodus.exodus.net [64.41.147.62]
11 * 177 ms * 216.239.49.2
12 196 ms 173 ms 166 ms 216.239.57.99

Trace complete.

Notice this ? ... 1 154 ms 132 ms 129 ms ip-66-45-192-2.nw-tel.com

This is MY gateway server, the first server on the list on it's way to google.com. Take this server's IP address and ping it a few times by typing this:

ping 1.2.3.4 where 1.2.3.4 is place the IP of your gateway server. if your pings are 100-150ms then your ISP isn't the problem, start looking through the trace route you did earlier, find out at what point your ping becomes to high. Do some traceroutes to different places to get a real idea of where the problem is.

If you get confused, do a traceroute to google.com and paste the results here, you can copy things in a dos prompt by right clicking in it and choosing MARK then highlight everything you want to copy, and right click again, it's now in your clipboard.
 
I don't think I'm the man, but when it comes to internet connectivity I have quite a bit of knowledge. Most of the folks I know where I live have to deal with dialup, and after me having a 50k connection with low dial-up pings, a lot of people kept asking me how I did it, when the most people get here is 28.8k with 500ms+ pings on the phonelines around here that I believe MOSES brought over on the ark.

I spent many hours troubleshooting my connection, from re-wiring my home phonelines to replacing lines outside my house, to changing modems, to changing ISP's. I learned all this stuff the hard way.

Unless the phoneline out on the poles real close to your house is the problem, I can just about work with anyone to get them a better connection.

Always start with a ping to your gateway server. It's the closest machine to you that you connect to. If you have high ping there, then WAMMO there is your problem. Talking with your isp, and or changing ISP's can fix this sometimes. But if the ping is high at the gateway, you know the problem is from that gateway to your modem. Then it's a matter of starting with the modem and working your way to the gateway server. If the problem is between the gateway server and 1 of the other hops, then a ISP change might fix everything, because different ISP's use different tier backbones usually and the latency issue might be because of overcrowded lines that supply your ISP their bandwidth.

Anyways dude, run those traceroutes and pings, if you get stumped, ask in here, and or paste what results you get. We may not be able to solve the problem, but we sure will be able to tell you where the problem is.
 
here is mine (tracert and ping to gateway)

Trace Route to Google Result


Tracing route to www.google.com [216.239.33.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 175 ms 167 ms 167 ms 202.154.255.44
2 166 ms 167 ms 167 ms 202.154.255.53
3 159 ms 167 ms 159 ms 202.154.255.52
4 173 ms 175 ms 161 ms 202.125.131.213
5 212 ms 300 ms 327 ms 202.125.128.6
6 662 ms 400 ms 534 ms 203.208.147.85
7 406 ms 390 ms 392 ms p5-2.nycmny1-cr11.bbnplanet.net [4.25.14.41]
8 383 ms 390 ms 392 ms p3-0.nycmny1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.10.78]
9 391 ms 384 ms 382 ms so-5-0-0-100.bbr1.nyc1.Level3.net [64.159.4.57]

10 397 ms 376 ms 384 ms gigabitethernet2-2.core2.NewYork1.Level3.net [64
.159.17.134]
11 399 ms 384 ms 390 ms CW-Level3-oc12.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.244.160.
134]
12 405 ms 405 ms 394 ms agr4-loopback.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.194.104]
13 385 ms 390 ms 392 ms dcr2-so-7-3-0.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.207.205]
14 479 ms 480 ms 472 ms dcr2-loopback.SantaClara.cw.net [208.172.146.100
]
15 478 ms 499 ms 491 ms bhr2-pos-0-0.SantaClarasc3.cw.net [208.172.156.2
14]
16 497 ms 480 ms 472 ms csr1-ve240.SantaClarasc3.cw.net [216.33.153.197]

17 470 ms 472 ms 495 ms google-exodus.exodus.net [64.68.64.210]
18 486 ms 480 ms 488 ms 216.239.47.2
19 487 ms 470 ms 472 ms 216.239.33.99

Trace complete.


Ping result for gateway


Reply from 202.154.255.44: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=255
Reply from 202.154.255.44: bytes=32 time=156ms TTL=255
Reply from 202.154.255.44: bytes=32 time=163ms TTL=255
Reply from 202.154.255.44: bytes=32 time=177ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 202.154.255.44:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 156ms, Maximum = 177ms, Average = 167ms


how do you diagnose this?

i think so my problem starts here

6 662 ms 400 ms 534 ms 203.208.147.85

i tried pinging No 1 - No 5 all gave results under 170 but No 6 gave me ping replies of 300+ grrr !!!
 
baqai: What I would do now, is run some traceroutes to some other places, try other countries as well. What you need to determine is if "202.125.128.6 and 203.208.147.85"
is a backbone your ISP uses and you need to see if your connection always goes through there. This is the point where your ping starts to spike up. If so, then you need to contact some other isp's in your area, and see if their connections run through that host or not.

Find one that doesn't, and try their service for a month.

Your actually lucky, because when it comes down to it, the farther away the 'problem' is from your modem, the more options you have to fix it. According to that tracert you posted, you have a good clean line between you and the gateway server, which is great.

But you really need to make sure that is really the place that is causing the lag. Only way to do that is to run traceroutes to some more places and see. Once you are sure that is your dead spot, contact your ISP and ask how they are connected to those 2 IP addresses and let them know of the lag. I would also then call some other ISP's and ask if their connections run through or around those IP's.

I would also like to note, your ping to your gateway is a little bit laggy but not to bad. I usually get 120ms to mine, but that depends how far you are from your isp. I said you have a good clean line to the gateway because your ping to it is within reason, given the fact I don't know how far you are from the machine you dial into. I'm about 2 miles from mine which is very good. Remember the closer you are to the machine your dialing into the lower your ping will be to. And the better chance you will have of getting a higher connection handshake.

Let me know how it goes.
 
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i ran some more test here are results

trace route result for www.go4b.net

Tracing route to magenta.go4b.net [203.81.204.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 150 ms 159 ms 144 ms 202.154.255.44
2 143 ms 142 ms 152 ms 202.154.255.53
3 151 ms 144 ms 159 ms 202.154.255.52
4 158 ms 152 ms 187 ms 202.125.134.241
5 225 ms 216 ms 175 ms 202.125.130.254
6 190 ms 175 ms 159 ms 203.81.204.11

Trace complete.

trace route result for www.deltagaming.net

Tracing route to deltagaming.net [203.194.197.241]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 158 ms 159 ms 171 ms 202.154.255.44
2 159 ms 152 ms 151 ms 202.154.255.53
3 158 ms 144 ms 142 ms 202.154.255.52
4 165 ms 159 ms 152 ms 202.125.134.241
5 166 ms 152 ms 158 ms 202.125.128.181
6 379 ms 382 ms 376 ms 203.208.147.85
7 487 ms 376 ms 390 ms p5-2.nycmny1-cr11.bbnplanet.net [4.25.14.41]
8 389 ms 366 ms 376 ms p3-0.nycmny1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.10.78]
9 375 ms 366 ms 376 ms so-5-1-0-100.bbr1.nyc1.Level3.net [64.159.4.61]

10 375 ms 384 ms 375 ms gigabitethernet2-2.core2.NewYork1.Level3.net [64
.159.17.134]
11 391 ms 375 ms 388 ms br2.NYC2.gblx.net [209.244.160.170]
12 387 ms 384 ms 381 ms pos3-0-2488M.cr1.NYC2.gblx.net [208.48.234.189]

13 773 ms 767 ms 855 ms pos0-0-622M.cr1.HKG1.gblx.net [203.192.134.113]

14 797 ms 855 ms 776 ms so0-0-0-622M.ar1.HKG1.gblx.net [203.192.134.122]

15 758 ms 759 ms 768 ms iAdvantage1.ge-0-1-0-879-1000m.ar1.HKG1.gblx.net
[203.192.137.150]
16 591 ms 583 ms 591 ms v005-m01.hk01.iadvantage.net [202.85.129.52]
17 590 ms 591 ms 599 ms 203.194.197.241

Trace complete.


Trace Route to www.overclockers.com

Tracing route to www.overclockers.com [208.249.124.215]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 142 ms 152 ms 144 ms 202.154.255.44
2 151 ms 152 ms 150 ms 202.154.255.53
3 149 ms 136 ms 136 ms 202.154.255.52
4 166 ms 152 ms 152 ms 202.125.134.241
5 174 ms 152 ms 159 ms 202.125.128.6
6 398 ms 366 ms 392 ms 203.208.147.85
7 383 ms 374 ms 376 ms p5-2.nycmny1-cr11.bbnplanet.net [4.25.14.41]
8 471 ms 400 ms 359 ms p3-0.nycmny1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.10.78]
9 373 ms 376 ms 374 ms so-5-0-0-100.bbr1.nyc1.Level3.net [64.159.4.57]

10 373 ms 368 ms 374 ms gigabitethernet2-2.core1.NewYork1.Level3.net [64
.159.17.133]
11 494 ms 374 ms 376 ms ewr-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [63.211.54.118]
12 375 ms 374 ms 376 ms ewr-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.17.125]
13 359 ms 376 ms 366 ms jfk-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.246]
14 482 ms 370 ms 359 ms jfk-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.30.86]
15 391 ms 374 ms 384 ms 205.171.38.14
16 383 ms 400 ms 382 ms 208.249.124.215

Trace complete.

so i think so the problem is 203.208.147.85 it is accessed in most of the cases and everytime the very same ip starts giving higher pings

Pinging the ip confirmed that

Pinging 203.208.147.85 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 203.208.147.85: bytes=32 time=391ms TTL=250
Reply from 203.208.147.85: bytes=32 time=478ms TTL=250
Reply from 203.208.147.85: bytes=32 time=374ms TTL=250
Reply from 203.208.147.85: bytes=32 time=484ms TTL=250

Ping statistics for 203.208.147.85:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 374ms, Maximum = 484ms, Average = 431ms

Now should i call my ISP and ask them what is this ip or what???
 
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.google.com [216.239.57.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 167 ms 154 ms 164 ms nas3.fayetteville1.nc.us.da.qwest.net [63.152.9.
88]
2 241 ms 154 ms 141 ms 63.152.24.110
3 351 ms 166 ms 165 ms atl-edge-05.inet.qwest.net [63.152.126.73]
4 278 ms 177 ms 166 ms tpa-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.27.109]
5 280 ms 165 ms 165 ms atl-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.21.102]
6 194 ms 166 ms 177 ms atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.21.150]
7 266 ms 177 ms 177 ms agr3-loopback.Atlanta.cw.net [208.172.66.103]
8 253 ms 182 ms 185 ms acr1-so-2-0-0.Atlanta.cw.net [208.172.67.201]
9 309 ms 225 ms 271 ms dcr1-loopback.SantaClara.cw.net [208.172.146.99]

10 231 ms 177 ms 177 ms dcr1-so-0-2-0.Atlanta.cw.net [208.172.75.9]
11 241 ms 237 ms 236 ms csr21-ve243.SantaClarasc4.cw.net [216.34.3.11]
12 230 ms 225 ms 260 ms ibr01-p5-0.sntc05.exodus.net [208.172.156.74]
13 229 ms 237 ms 236 ms csr21-ve243.SantaClarasc4.cw.net [216.34.3.11]
14 242 ms 237 ms 236 ms google-exodus.exodus.net [64.41.147.62]
15 242 ms 236 ms 260 ms 216.239.49.2
16 242 ms 238 ms 236 ms 216.239.57.99

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
 
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 63.152.9.88

Pinging 63.152.9.88 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=192ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=178ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 63.152.9.88:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 170ms, Maximum = 192ms, Average = 181ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 63.152.
Ping request could not find host 63.152.. Please check the name and try again.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 63.152.9.88

Pinging 63.152.9.88 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=255ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=155ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=163ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=229ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 63.152.9.88:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 155ms, Maximum = 255ms, Average = 200ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 63.152.9.88

Pinging 63.152.9.88 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=235ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=159ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=153ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=255ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 63.152.9.88:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 153ms, Maximum = 255ms, Average = 200ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>63.152.9.88
'63.152.9.88' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 63.152.9.88

Pinging 63.152.9.88 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=167ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=153ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=164ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 63.152.9.88:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 153ms, Maximum = 167ms, Average = 162ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 63.152.9.88

Pinging 63.152.9.88 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=152ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=151ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=149ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 63.152.9.88:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 140ms, Maximum = 152ms, Average = 148ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 63.152.9.88

Pinging 63.152.9.88 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=268ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=161ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 63.152.9.88:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 145ms, Maximum = 268ms, Average = 183ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 63.152.9.88

Pinging 63.152.9.88 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=178ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=151ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=163ms TTL=255
Reply from 63.152.9.88: bytes=32 time=162ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 63.152.9.88:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 151ms, Maximum = 178ms, Average = 163ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
 
baqai: Yep your problem is around 5 and 6 where I said I thought it was last time. Contact your ISP and find out what those IP addresses are and then try to find an ISP that doesn't use those.

AMD900: Your pings actually look quite good. I can't see a bottleneck in those, it might simply be the particular game server your trying to use. Try using one in your own country and see if your pings are better.
 
i tried playng on a local CS server and i was getting around 200-300 pings but when i try to play on some international server (oc.com's server for instance) i get around 400-500 ping :(

i called my ISP and i was greeted by a typical customer support person who had NO idea of what i was talking about .. to make the story short i was "advised" to get my phone line checked grrr!!! and yeah "she" had no idea of trace route and gateways and to be honest seems to me she had idea of NOTHING !! argh!

i am going to pay a visit to my ISP .. i have already ordered cable connection and it's going to take around 10 days for installation and i have nothing to kill time so no harm is bashing the ISP :D
 
I find it hard to believe all of this information is new. if it is I guess maybe I stumbled onto something. As for your ISP giving you the run around, I should of warned you about that. The ISP's here in my valley are small, when you call them you usually get to talk to the network administrator and he/she will tell you everything.

The traceroute command is good when you need to find out where your connection goes to reach a particular server, and if there are any problems along that route.

200-300ms ping on a gaming server is descent, I wouldn't expect much better unless the gaming server is hosted by your next door neighbor.
 
if i get a external modem how much will it change.

what is a good external modem?
 
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