PowerColor.....Same quality as ATI????

jlush · 06-14-03, 01:42 AM

Hey
I'm looking to buy a new card, the 9700 pro is really looking nice....
I've seen a few different versions out there, sapphire, PowerColor, the actual ATI....what's the difference in these cards? All I can see is the box...Is it like MSI and an ASUS geforce card? Please explain to me, and let me know if its worth buying powercolor...

Is there a difference in quality? Im so confused....

I can't seem to find an ATI radeon for less than 285.... any help on that either

(Retail version for less than 285...)

Socket eh? · 06-14-03, 01:59 AM

Powercolor uses crappier pcbs. If you want a radeon, look for a bba or sapphire.

jlush · 06-14-03, 02:04 AM

bba? do you know where I can get one of these (9700pro retail) built by sapphire or ati for cheap?

dmginc345 · 06-14-03, 08:59 AM

you can get a built by ati anywhere pretty much, lots of places have them. Now that i say that though, i ended up paying the extra 15 bucks for tax and buying it at best buy cause i didnt feel like waiting 4 more days before i could boot up my computer.

schismspeak · 06-14-03, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlush
bba? do you know where I can get one of these (9700pro retail) built by sapphire or ati for cheap?

BBA=Built by ATI

jlush · 06-14-03, 02:00 PM

oh haha that makes sense thanks
k I'll try and stick with the real ATI then

DO you mind telling me what the best quality to the worst wuality is?

like
1-ati
2-sapphire
3-powercolor etc

thanks

schismspeak · 06-14-03, 02:06 PM

ATI and sapphire are good powercolor is crappy, your list was correct.

FIC is pretty good too.

q149 · 06-14-03, 02:25 PM

I don't know about crappy... PoworColor has a bad rep but i think they may have changed. I don't see anyone with any newer PoworColor cards complaining, most say they like it and reach good overclocks.

stan03 · 06-14-03, 02:25 PM

i think the list should look like
1-ati
2-sapphire
9999^999999etc-powercolor

Socket eh? · 06-14-03, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stan03
i think the list should look like
1-ati
2-sapphire
9999^999999etc-powercolor

That's about right.

R4z0r4mu5 Pr|m3 · 06-14-03, 05:56 PM

should ati be ahead of sapphire? i saw a review at guru3d.com and the sapphire and hercules 9700 pro came out better than the ati, small differences but they're there

kestrel · 06-14-03, 06:13 PM

I own a powercolour 9700pro and have no problems. Out of the box it did 385/660. With an iceberq4 and ramsinks I have it at 410/690 for benchmarks and 390/675 for everyday gaming.

TheGr8s1 · 06-14-03, 07:30 PM

Sapphire 9700np owner here with mine o/c at 375/320 so far. I basically have a 9700pro for less. Got the same board as the pro and same memory. (Samsung 2.8ns) What was the difference when I first bought it? THE BIOS! Flashed it in a minute with a pro bios and poof! 9700pro was born!

knif_00 · 06-15-03, 10:11 AM

Throw Visiontek into the mix there.
They make versions of the 9100, 9500, and 9800 Pro cards.

::knif_00::

TerroH8er · 06-15-03, 12:08 PM

I'm pretty sure Sapphire makes ATi OEM cards, so they are the same. IMHO Hercules seems to be the best card for people who don't wanna add ramsinks and better GPU cooling.

06-14-03, 01:42 AM	Thread Starter #1
jlush Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada	PowerColor.....Same quality as ATI???? Hey I'm looking to buy a new card, the 9700 pro is really looking nice.... I've seen a few different versions out there, sapphire, PowerColor, the actual ATI....what's the difference in these cards? All I can see is the box...Is it like MSI and an ASUS geforce card? Please explain to me, and let me know if its worth buying powercolor... Is there a difference in quality? Im so confused.... I can't seem to find an ATI radeon for less than 285.... any help on that either (Retail version for less than 285...)
	QUOTE Thanks

06-14-03, 01:59 AM	#2
Socket eh? Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada (South Korea)	Powercolor uses crappier pcbs. If you want a radeon, look for a bba or sapphire. __________________ [Alienware M15x] \| i7 940XM 3.2GHz - 4GHz - 5850m 800/1100 1.05v \| \| 8GB DDR3-1333 - WD5000BEKT - Samsung 2494HM \| The coin is still turning.
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06-14-03, 02:04 AM	Thread Starter #3
jlush Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada	bba? do you know where I can get one of these (9700pro retail) built by sapphire or ati for cheap?
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06-14-03, 08:59 AM	#4
dmginc345 Registered Join Date: Jun 2003	you can get a built by ati anywhere pretty much, lots of places have them. Now that i say that though, i ended up paying the extra 15 bucks for tax and buying it at best buy cause i didnt feel like waiting 4 more days before i could boot up my computer.
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06-14-03, 02:00 PM	Thread Starter #6
jlush Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada	oh haha that makes sense thanks k I'll try and stick with the real ATI then DO you mind telling me what the best quality to the worst wuality is? like 1-ati 2-sapphire 3-powercolor etc thanks
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06-14-03, 02:06 PM	#7
schismspeak Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: I'm now in Colorado	ATI and sapphire are good powercolor is crappy, your list was correct. FIC is pretty good too. __________________ HP DV6119us Laptop AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50 2GB ram 80GB HD DVD-RW drive Creative SB Extreme Audio Notebook Windows Vista SP1 HEAT
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06-14-03, 02:25 PM	#8
q149 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Japan	I don't know about crappy... PoworColor has a bad rep but i think they may have changed. I don't see anyone with any newer PoworColor cards complaining, most say they like it and reach good overclocks.
	QUOTE Thanks

06-14-03, 02:25 PM	#9
stan03 Member Join Date: Mar 2003	i think the list should look like 1-ati 2-sapphire 9999^999999etc-powercolor
	QUOTE Thanks

06-14-03, 05:56 PM	#11
R4z0r4mu5 Pr\|m3 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York	should ati be ahead of sapphire? i saw a review at guru3d.com and the sapphire and hercules 9700 pro came out better than the ati, small differences but they're there
	QUOTE Thanks

06-14-03, 06:13 PM	#12
kestrel Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Virginia	I own a powercolour 9700pro and have no problems. Out of the box it did 385/660. With an iceberq4 and ramsinks I have it at 410/690 for benchmarks and 390/675 for everyday gaming.
	QUOTE Thanks

06-14-03, 07:30 PM	#13
TheGr8s1 Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Never Never Land	Sapphire 9700np owner here with mine o/c at 375/320 so far. I basically have a 9700pro for less. Got the same board as the pro and same memory. (Samsung 2.8ns) What was the difference when I first bought it? THE BIOS! Flashed it in a minute with a pro bios and poof! 9700pro was born!
	QUOTE Thanks

06-15-03, 10:11 AM	#14
knif_00 Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: <So.IL>	Throw Visiontek into the mix there. They make versions of the 9100, 9500, and 9800 Pro cards. ::knif_00::
	QUOTE Thanks

06-15-03, 12:08 PM	#15
TerroH8er Member Join Date: Oct 2002	I'm pretty sure Sapphire makes ATi OEM cards, so they are the same. IMHO Hercules seems to be the best card for people who don't wanna add ramsinks and better GPU cooling.
	QUOTE Thanks

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