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El<(')>Maxi · 06-15-03, 06:27 AM

While I am awaiting my RMA to return I started to play around with an old VOODOO3500 I had sitting around.

Well, I own all the 3500's all but one 4500 and it's very close with the 5500's.

This is THE best score overall for a 4500

Service FutureMark Compare

top4500 score 1024x768

4500 1024x768

Did all the tricks, new active cooling (man those suckers run HOT!), BIOS flash(found some interesting pages in Chianese looking for .rom images), and of course OC'd it. Anybody planning on doing any cooling, flashing, and overclocking on their main card should try something like this first. It's good experience that may prevent problems on an expensive card.

Final clock speeds 210/210, card runs much cooler too.

And running Unreal Tournament, the 3500 is a very solid, averaging 70-110fps

OC Noob · 06-15-03, 10:35 AM

Looks like a gf2 mx score. Is that the card it was competing with back in the day?

pip · 06-15-03, 10:40 AM

why not run at 1024x768 so you actually get a comparable score?

PhobMX · 06-15-03, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by pip
why not run at 1024x768 so you actually get a comparable score?

that pos doesnt support 32bit color, ROFL

XeRoFuN · 06-15-03, 01:02 PM

Is that better than my Matrox M3D with 4MB SD RAM?

MetalStorm · 06-15-03, 02:38 PM

The Voodoo cards rule! I love my old Voodoo 3 2000, one of the best things I have ever bought! Nice 3dmark scores too.

How did you remove the heatsinks? I cant get the heatsink off my 2000...

El<(')>Maxi · 06-15-03, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by PhobMX

that pos doesnt support 32bit color, ROFL

Sacrilege!!, pure Sacrilege!!

You have angered the GPU GoDS, you will be punished

I am sorry

El<(')>Maxi · 06-15-03, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by MetalStorm
The Voodoo cards rule! I love my old Voodoo 3 2000, one of the best things I have ever bought! Nice 3dmark scores too.

How did you remove the heatsinks? I cant get the heatsink off my 2000...

Just removed the two expansion push pins. then heat with a hairdryer and pry it off with a flat blade srcewdriver and a creditcard underneath to protect the card. It came off alot easier than the hs from my Radeon8500 thats for sure.

But that's a 3500, not sure about yours.

zabomb4163 · 06-15-03, 05:56 PM

when did voodoo die?

rogue3092 · 06-15-03, 06:29 PM

Actually, that sucker was competing with the TNT2/TNT2 Ultra back in "the day". Its funny how 3dfx zombies always mention the great image quality on the 5500 series, because 3dfx was practically the last company to introduce the use of "whopping" 32 bit color.

El<(')>Maxi · 06-16-03, 01:22 AM

Yes, the FutureMark scores are pretty laughable by today's standards, but 3DFX was the premier graphics card maker back then. They introduced FSAA and many other features that have led to the cards of today.

In starting this thread my main idea was to have people considering some form of card modding try it on a card such as this first. Good experience.

3DFX sold the majority of it's assets to NVIDIA in April 2001 for $55 millon.

FIZZ3 · 06-16-03, 06:03 AM

Hehe nice. I like these kinds of extreme tweak efforts on older hardware. Amazing stuff is often pulled with hardware that doesn't represent a large investment anymore.

By the way, if it plays your fav. game that good, you've got nothing to worry about. Although UT2k3 is the future of course! :P

memphist0 · 06-16-03, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by rogue3092
Actually, that sucker was competing with the TNT2/TNT2 Ultra back in "the day". Its funny how 3dfx zombies always mention the great image quality on the 5500 series, because 3dfx was practically the last company to introduce the use of "whopping" 32 bit color.

The may have been last on 32 bit color, but they were the first with fsaa. And even modern cards really don't compete with the IQ of the 5500

MetalStorm · 06-16-03, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by El<(')>Maxi

Just removed the two expansion push pins. then heat with a hairdryer and pry it off with a flat blade srcewdriver and a creditcard underneath to protect the card. It came off alot easier than the hs from my Radeon8500 thats for sure.

But that's a 3500, not sure about yours.

Unfortunatly my Voodoo3 2000 doenst have any push pins, the heatsink is just stuck on there! I have tried prying it off with a pen knife, but it almost broke the blade!

OverclockNStein · 06-16-03, 03:00 PM

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Unfortunatly my Voodoo3 2000 doenst have any push pins, the heatsink is just stuck on there! I have tried prying it off with a pen knife, but it almost broke the blade!

I had a friend remove a heatsink off a GPU with a guitar string (flossing)

I was able to remove a heatsink off a TNT2 just by using a pair of vice-grips (gripped the heatsink on 2 opposite ends, and gave it a squeez, the heatsink flexed from the pressure and pretty muched popped off)

CrystalMethod · 06-16-03, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by MetalStorm

Unfortunatly my Voodoo3 2000 doenst have any push pins, the heatsink is just stuck on there! I have tried prying it off with a pen knife, but it almost broke the blade!

You could always try the old freezer trick. Basicaly what you do is put the card in an anti-static or "Zip-Loc™"bag (pereferably anti-static), and toss it into the freezer for 20 to 30 mins. Or for however long you feel it needs to get the card to sub zero temps. Take the card out and using something like a credit card to protect the PCB, use a screwdriver or knife to pry the heatsink off. By freezing the thermal epoxy, it makes it brittle and easier to pry the heatsink off.

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El<(')>Maxi Blank Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Seattle	VOODOO BaBy While I am awaiting my RMA to return I started to play around with an old VOODOO3500 I had sitting around. Well, I own all the 3500's all but one 4500 and it's very close with the 5500's. This is THE best score overall for a 4500 Service FutureMark Compare top4500 score 1024x768 4500 1024x768 Did all the tricks, new active cooling (man those suckers run HOT!), BIOS flash(found some interesting pages in Chianese looking for .rom images), and of course OC'd it. Anybody planning on doing any cooling, flashing, and overclocking on their main card should try something like this first. It's good experience that may prevent problems on an expensive card. Final clock speeds 210/210, card runs much cooler too. And running Unreal Tournament, the 3500 is a very solid, averaging 70-110fps __________________ rdrash - 'I'm gonna intentionally try to kill this CPU with more volts' Last edited by El<(')>Maxi; 06-15-03 at 04:16 PM.
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MetalStorm Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England	The Voodoo cards rule! I love my old Voodoo 3 2000, one of the best things I have ever bought! Nice 3dmark scores too. How did you remove the heatsinks? I cant get the heatsink off my 2000... Last edited by MetalStorm; 06-15-03 at 02:47 PM.
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06-15-03, 06:29 PM	#10
rogue3092 Member Join Date: Dec 2002	Actually, that sucker was competing with the TNT2/TNT2 Ultra back in "the day". Its funny how 3dfx zombies always mention the great image quality on the 5500 series, because 3dfx was practically the last company to introduce the use of "whopping" 32 bit color.
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06-16-03, 01:22 AM	Thread Starter #11
El<(')>Maxi Blank Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Seattle	Yes, the FutureMark scores are pretty laughable by today's standards, but 3DFX was the premier graphics card maker back then. They introduced FSAA and many other features that have led to the cards of today. In starting this thread my main idea was to have people considering some form of card modding try it on a card such as this first. Good experience. 3DFX sold the majority of it's assets to NVIDIA in April 2001 for $55 millon. __________________ rdrash - 'I'm gonna intentionally try to kill this CPU with more volts'
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06-16-03, 06:03 AM	#12
FIZZ3 Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NL, Europe	Hehe nice. I like these kinds of extreme tweak efforts on older hardware. Amazing stuff is often pulled with hardware that doesn't represent a large investment anymore. By the way, if it plays your fav. game that good, you've got nothing to worry about. Although UT2k3 is the future of course! :P __________________ Desktop: Intel C2D E6700 @ 2.67Ghz / TR AXP-140 \| Asus P5W DH Dlx \| Corsair TwinX 4Gb PC6400 CL4 Nvidia 8800 GTS 640Mb / TR HR-03 \| Creative X-Fi 2x WD Raptor 150Gb \| Plextor PX-760SA Lian Li V2000 Plus \| Corsair HX620 Dell 2407WFP \| Logitech Z-5500 Laptop: Sony VAIO Z11 Intel i5-520M \| 4Gb \| Nvidia GT330M \| 2x64Gb RAID-0 SSD \| 13" 1600x900 panel
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