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thorilan · Jul 11, 2003

hehe knew that would get someones attention

anyways which series is the first ( or cheepest) to start using all 8 pipes? is it 9700 or 9800? ( if possible will a 9600 or 9700 do it with some kind of mod?)

wannaoc · Jul 11, 2003

9700, the other 4 on the 9500np can be activated but don't always work properly. The 9600 series can't be modded to anything, it's a different card, a slower card with major o/c ability but still is a good budget card.

R4z0r4mu5 Pr|m3 · Jul 11, 2003

yeah, 9700 non-pro is the cheapest with 8 pipelines

Lord_MiL · Jul 11, 2003

I thought the 9500pro had 8 pipes and that is what distinguishes it from the 9500np which has 4 pipes?

Evnas · Jul 11, 2003

Lord_MiL said:
I thought the 9500pro had 8 pipes and that is what distinguishes it from the 9500np which has 4 pipes?

Correct...the 9500 Pro is the cheapest card with 8 pipelines of rendering goodness

Namagomi · Jul 11, 2003

The 9500np is the cheapest card with the possibility of running with all 8 pipelines.

Also, when I hear "laying pipe" I think of oil field equpiment

Evnas · Jul 11, 2003

Namagomi said:
The 9500np is the cheapest card with the possibility of running with all 8 pipelines.

I'll double stress this...possibility

Namagomi · Jul 11, 2003

Evnas said:
I'll double stress this...possibility

Better yet.

possibility

But hell, it worked for me.

thorilan · Jul 12, 2003

do i have to mod the 9700 to get all 8 pipes

Evnas · Jul 12, 2003

thorilan said:
do i have to mod the 9700 to get all 8 pipes

The 9500 PRO, 9700, 9700 Pro, 9800, and 9800 PRO ALL have 8 pipelines enabled

thorilan · Jul 12, 2003

koooll thanks for the replies
is the 9800 pro the only one with a 256 bit path ( im kinda confused on this cause i thought bit path was determined by pipel;ines)

R4z0r4mu5 Pr|m3 · Jul 12, 2003

oh yeah, forgot about the 9500pro, my bad, the 9500pro is lacking the 256-bit memory interface tho, the 9700np and above all have 8 pipes and 256-bit memory interface

thorilan · Jul 12, 2003

so basicaly i should probly just get a 9700 and not mod anything if i dont have to worry about cost.

can a 9700 non pro be modded to pro or is that only the lower boards?

Lord_MiL · Jul 12, 2003

All you would have to do is overclock the GPU and memory on a 9700NonPro to make it a 9700 Pro
The 9500's are the only mentioned cards where the non-pro and pro have actual differences in the way they work. The 9500NonPro has 4 pipes disabled and possibly damaged. Therefore it is what I would consider "different" from the 9500Pro. The 9700Pro however is just a higher clocked 9700nonpro.
Wow, did that make sense?

thorilan · Jul 12, 2003

yeah got , it so basicaly OCing a 9700 non pro can save me lots of money and possibly reach 9800 pro performance with a good cooling solution right

Evnas · Jul 12, 2003

thorilan said:
yeah got , it so basicaly OCing a 9700 non pro can save me lots of money and possibly reach 9800 pro performance with a good cooling solution right

Possibly, yea. Though it may reach stock 9800 Pro performance, it definatly wont overtake overclocked 9800 Pro performance.

thorilan · Jul 12, 2003

think ill end up buying a 9700 non pro then =) thanks for all the great info guys

( it will be my first ati card )

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