dont waste cash on routers

gottylynx · 08-12-03, 11:43 PM

just get zonealarm pro works GREAT and ALL and i mean ALL my ports all stealth what more can u want works great simple to use same results as a router but at a TON LOWER price

CrazyP · 08-12-03, 11:47 PM

hum, people dont get a router just for the firewall

Disco_Stu · 08-12-03, 11:51 PM

yea, some people like to ROUTE things, like internet connections, to differant computers.

gottylynx · 08-12-03, 11:53 PM

o ok im nub so i say stupid things lol o well maybe my next topic will be more helpful

XWRed1 · 08-13-03, 12:17 AM

Zonealarm doesn't do nat.

Don't waste cash on Zonealarm. Use a real firewalling solution. Like iptables. Or pf. Or ipfw. Or ipfilter.

Daemonfly · 08-13-03, 12:22 AM

Yeah, get a better solution, like low end PC (usually free) and pop Smoothwall on it.

engjohn · 08-13-03, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by XWRed1
Zonealarm doesn't do nat.

Don't waste cash on Zonealarm. Use a real firewalling solution. Like iptables. Or pf. Or ipfw. Or ipfilter.

I second that!

dagamore · 08-13-03, 01:00 AM

but does ZA allow me to share my cable with my 8 machines? does it act as my DHCP host?
does it alow me to meter my internet connection?
nope, i guess i will stick with my router

Carnil · 08-13-03, 04:42 AM

Heck, a hardware router may be cheaper than a software firewall. The Gigafast EE400-R is available on Newegg for $13 -- potentially cheaper than a second network card or a commercial firewall.

Not that I'd wish that particular router on anyone -- it was a pain to set up, and stopped working temporarily on the second day I was using it.

SinsFeelNatural · 08-13-03, 07:41 AM

I agree with a hardware firewall owning a software firewall. A 40 dollar router is a much better deal anyway over a 40 piece of software.

Don't feel bad over the post.

Everyone in here posts some weird stuff from time to time.

Beast Of Blight · 08-13-03, 08:06 AM

Only the truely 1337, like me, run both a hardware & a software firewall.

Oh yeah, baby. Bask in my awesome ub3rn355

SinsFeelNatural · 08-13-03, 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by Beast Of Blight
Only the truely 1337, like me, run both a hardware & a software firewall.

Oh yeah, baby. Bask in my awesome ub3rn355

Even your avatar is looks paranoid! lol

a quote from a girl I used to work with.

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a night I turn off my computer and unplug the modem because I heard new viruses can turn on your computer

lol. Just teasing you, it always good to be carefull

XWRed1 · 08-13-03, 11:58 AM

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Only the truely 1337, like me, run both a hardware & a software firewall.

Technically they're all software firewalls, just the appliances are embedded machines. Some of them even run Linux.

Mr.Guvernment · 08-13-03, 12:07 PM

^^^^

uh-hu

Zoneralarm also likes to crash windows alot, or did - i will NEVER use a "free" firewall

u get what you pay for. and my network or computer is worth more then what a Free firewall can offer for protection.

dalilman52 · 08-13-03, 01:42 PM

i have the linksys 4-port router - link http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...cid=29&prid=20 and i was wondering if it had any good protection from viruses and stuff...or hackers help me out!!
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Wedge1212 · 08-13-03, 02:07 PM

just disable Upnp if it supports it and you should be resonably safe from hackers (dont forget to change the default password) God knows how many people out there dont change it. My linksys kept my home network safe from MSBlaster

ColdMiser · 08-13-03, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by Daemonfly
Yeah, get a better solution, like low end PC (usually free) and pop Smoothwall on it.

Heck yeah. Compared to a Sonicwall, the only really useful thing missing from the free version is a content filter, but folks here wouldn't care about that. It is an excellent firewall with great VPN capabilities, and it will nearly run on a TI-82 calculator.

rogerdugans · 08-13-03, 05:03 PM

Personally, I have posted some silly stuff- and some stuff that
was just plain wrong

So don't feel bad!

But it is a pretty timely topic: routers and firewalls.

I use a linksys gateway router which provides some basic protection with NAT.
I also use ZA (free edition) on each windows pc and the linux rigs have stuff going too (which I need to learn more about

).

Neither are perfect.
Neither will keep a determined cracker out of any of my machines.

But blaster didn't get me.

Neither did Code Red- and I was running an IIS webserver on one of my rigs when that was going around.

Security: it's not just for Enterprise IT/IS departments anymore.

XWRed1 · 08-13-03, 07:47 PM

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and the linux rigs have stuff going too (which I need to learn more about ).

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Neither will keep a determined cracker out of any of my machines.

The Linux one can be configured to, unless you are running vulnerable services (read: unpatched) or there is a Linux remote exploit you haven't patched.

DarkNight · 08-13-03, 09:19 PM

I will usualy install the free ZA, I just don't leave it running all the time. It's good to have on when installing downloaded software or other "free" stuff (p2p). It's nice to check for out going as well as incomming traffic. It is kind of a resourse hog though. I am personaly behind a router with nat and spi.

08-12-03, 11:43 PM	Thread Starter #1
gottylynx Registered Join Date: Jul 2003	dont waste cash on routers just get zonealarm pro works GREAT and ALL and i mean ALL my ports all stealth what more can u want works great simple to use same results as a router but at a TON LOWER price
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08-12-03, 11:47 PM	#2
CrazyP Member Join Date: Nov 2002	hum, people dont get a router just for the firewall
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08-12-03, 11:51 PM	#3
Disco_Stu Member Join Date: Mar 2003	yea, some people like to ROUTE things, like internet connections, to differant computers.
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08-12-03, 11:53 PM	Thread Starter #4
gottylynx Registered Join Date: Jul 2003	o ok im nub so i say stupid things lol o well maybe my next topic will be more helpful
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08-13-03, 12:17 AM	#5
XWRed1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001	Zonealarm doesn't do nat. Don't waste cash on Zonealarm. Use a real firewalling solution. Like iptables. Or pf. Or ipfw. Or ipfilter.
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dagamore Member Join Date: Dec 2002	but does ZA allow me to share my cable with my 8 machines? does it act as my DHCP host? does it alow me to meter my internet connection? nope, i guess i will stick with my router
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Carnil Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Spokane, USA	Heck, a hardware router may be cheaper than a software firewall. The Gigafast EE400-R is available on Newegg for $13 -- potentially cheaper than a second network card or a commercial firewall. Not that I'd wish that particular router on anyone -- it was a pain to set up, and stopped working temporarily on the second day I was using it.
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SinsFeelNatural Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phx. AZ - USA	I agree with a hardware firewall owning a software firewall. A 40 dollar router is a much better deal anyway over a 40 piece of software. Don't feel bad over the post. Everyone in here posts some weird stuff from time to time. __________________ RIP 1700+ JIUHB DLT3C@2.4GHZ-MSI Delta-L-1gb Muskin 3200 running Dual Channel-MSI 6600 128 MB-2x80gb Western Digital - R.I.P. AMD 64 3500+ - ECS KV2LITE - 2GB DDR - SAPPHIRE X800GTO 256MB VIDEO RUNNING ON TWIN 15" LCDs - RIP On a long enough time line, everyone's survival rate reaches zero.
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Beast Of Blight Disabled Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Orange County	Only the truely 1337, like me, run both a hardware & a software firewall. Oh yeah, baby. Bask in my awesome ub3rn355
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dalilman52 Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston	i have the linksys 4-port router - link http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...cid=29&prid=20 and i was wondering if it had any good protection from viruses and stuff...or hackers help me out!! ________ Hispanic / Latino Recipes Last edited by dalilman52; 04-13-11 at 08:37 AM.
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Wedge1212 Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Waco / Coppell, Texas	just disable Upnp if it supports it and you should be resonably safe from hackers (dont forget to change the default password) God knows how many people out there dont change it. My linksys kept my home network safe from MSBlaster
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08-13-03, 05:03 PM	#18
rogerdugans Linux challenged Senior, not that it stops me... Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Corner of No and Where	Personally, I have posted some silly stuff- and some stuff that was just plain wrong So don't feel bad! But it is a pretty timely topic: routers and firewalls. I use a linksys gateway router which provides some basic protection with NAT. I also use ZA (free edition) on each windows pc and the linux rigs have stuff going too (which I need to learn more about ). Neither are perfect. Neither will keep a determined cracker out of any of my machines. But blaster didn't get me. Neither did Code Red- and I was running an IIS webserver on one of my rigs when that was going around. Security: it's not just for Enterprise IT/IS departments anymore. __________________ Still overclocked and running linux on watercooled computers after all these years.
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08-13-03, 09:19 PM	#20
DarkNight Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pittsburgh	I will usualy install the free ZA, I just don't leave it running all the time. It's good to have on when installing downloaded software or other "free" stuff (p2p). It's nice to check for out going as well as incomming traffic. It is kind of a resourse hog though. I am personaly behind a router with nat and spi.
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