[OLMI]

ok.. well i guess i might go back.. but only to play counter-strike if i miss it too much (swap hard drives for a bit to play). well anyways.. i'll get to my question.

how do i see my files on my drive i have.. my.. files on? i have it on my serial ata controller. i THINK linux installed them automatically or something... because it sees my 160 gig i have on there.. but i can't find my mp3s or anything else on that drive anywhere. is it because it's ntfs? i dont know what file system linux uses heh.

[fiji]

so erm what kind of setup do you have? hardisk setup i mean


linux has NTFS read, but not write support(at least its experimental write support)

you just have to mount the partition /drive
to access the files



so for example say my windows partition is the 4th partition on my primary hdd

i would do

mount /dev/hda4 /location/to/mount

[OLMI]

hmm.. ok i see.. what do i put for "/location/to/mount"? what does that mean?

[Illah]

It means whatever you want, the location to mount.

/myharddrive/

Then you can

cd /myhardrive/

and there you are.

--Illah

[OLMI]

i tried "mount /dev/hda4/ files" and it said i need to specify the file system.

[fiji]

in linux, everything is 1 filesystem (as opposed to windows C: E: F: A

the root of the linux system is "/"

the home for the root/admin user is "/root"

the home dir for a normal user is generall "/home/user"

and when you mount a device, your basically like the name says

mount's that device to the filesystem


so you could have

/ = root
/hardrive1 = your 1st hardrive
/cdrom = your cdrom

you can name them whatever you want and mount them wehrerever you could mount your cdrom at /mnt/cdroms/crappyoldcdrom/blbhablah

it really dun matter where you mount it as long as you know where you mounted it

[fiji]

Originally posted by OLMI
i tried "mount /dev/hda4/ files" and it said i need to specify the file system.

mount -flags filesystem /device /mountpoint


for NTFS try this

mount -t ntfs /device /mntpoint



also you said mount /dev/hda4/ files

just files isnt proper syntax or whatnot

it would have to be /files (with the dir already created)

or another /path

[n_ick2000]

Originally posted by OLMI
ok.. well i guess i might go back.. but only to play counter-strike if i miss it too much (swap hard drives for a bit to play).

Half-Life (and mods) works beautilfully in wine. But multiplayer seems to be busted in the latest wine release so get 20030709 if you can.

As the others have said mounting goes something like this:
mount -t type /device /mntpoint
To keep with the standards, you should you mount them in /mnt/whatever. If the drive is fat 32, then it'd be mount -t vfat /dev/hda4 /mnt/whatever. If it's ntts it'd be mount -t ntfs /dev/hda4 /mnt/whatever. Depending on the distro you're using ntfs read support may not be in the kernel. You may have to recompile the kernel to get it. It'll error on you if you can't. To have the drive automounted at bootup, just add it to /etc/fstab. It's pretty straightforward to add it.

[OLMI]

so do i create a directory at / for a mount point? sorry guys hehe... i tried to create a directory in / and it wont let me.. i also am unable to create a directory in /usr..

this is what happened without a mount point created.. so i assume my version of red hat i have supports the ntfs

[root@gheaukul lennyc]# mount -t ntfs /dev/hda4 /files
mount: mount point /files does not exist
[root@gheaukul lennyc]#

oh ya.. also, how do i know if my hard drive is hda4?

[n_ick2000]

You have do create the directory first. BTW, you should be doing this as root.

mkdir /mnt/whatever

I assumed you knew what the drive you wanted to mount was. Run this

ls /dev/hd*

Those are your choices. In linux it works like this: hda is the first in the ide chain (the order for the chain is pri master, pri slave, sec mast sec slave). hdb is the second, hdc is the third and so on. the numbers at the end coorespond to the partition. So hda1 would be the first partition on your first drive. hda2 would be the second partition on your first drive. hdb1 would the the first partiton on your second drive. and it goes on like that. CDroms count. I myself have two hardrives and two cdroms, so it looks like hda is my first hd, hdb my second, hdc my first cdrom, and hdd my third.

Any of that make sence?

[Arkaine23]

As root:

mkdir /files
mount -t ntfs /dev/hda4 /files

Make sure hda4 is the correct partition you're trying to mount.

hda4 is for the 4th partition on your primary hdd. hdb1 would be the first partition on your secondary hdd. See how linux identifies partitions?

"a b c d"- all describe which hard drive primaray master, secondary master, primary slave, secondary slave... etc

"1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8...." all describe partitions on a single hdd in the sequence they exist on the disk. 1 for the first partition on a disk, 2 for the second....


If the mkdir command is not working to create your mountpoint /files, I suggest you try: mkdir /mnt/files

[OLMI]

how could i go find out where my hard drive is? i think it might be hde because it's on my serial ata controller, and other things go loaded before it.. also.. i only had one partition on that drive before i put linux on my other hard drive. there's still only one partition on that drive, correct? if i do..

mount -t ntfs /dev/hde1 /files

would it wreck anything? i dont want to lose my mp3s and stuff even though i have then backed up heh.

[Arkaine23]

No, that shouldn't put your files in any risk.

I think it will either be hde1 or hdb1.

[OLMI]

i tried hde1 and it said ntfs isnt supported by this kernel. how would i go about updating that? i saw this one on the kde panel that wants me to register in order to download some updates i think... but when i went through it, it wanted a product id.. i downloaded my copy, i dont have one. what should i do about that? ..well i gotta continue this tomorrow.. it's 10 and that's when i have to go to sleep or else i'll be a zombie tomorrow at school. i'll continue this when i get home tomorrow after looking for a red hat book at borders

[n_ick2000]

ok, to get ntfs read support (write support is dangerous) you're going to have to re-compile the kernel. As root:

cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig

You're going to want to navigate to File Systems -> <*> NTFS Read Support (compile it directly in rather than a module.. it's easier that way). Save the configuration and then run this

make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install

then copy /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot and then configure your bootloader to the new kernel. Or if you want to automate the last part run "make install" at /usr/src/linux. You may still have to configure the bootloader, however.

[Titan386]

Which distro are you using? If it's Red Hat, you can get a precompiled kernel module here:
http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/

Installing that will be easier than recompiling the entire kernel.
In order to use a module, you have to first load it. This explains how to load modules, and lots of other useful information as well

[OLMI]

ok, i'll get to this stuff tonight after school. before then, does anyone have anymore advice on recompiling the kernel and stuff? im really lost here.. this is really the first time i've ran linux. i dont know where i'd be without this forum