[SRB442]

Hi,
I will be building a new system soon and have decided on the asus p4c800-e mb with p4 2.8 cpu and want to know what the best memory would be for this board. I may try some overclocking on the machine so that is a consideration. There are so many choices and have read some but need some advice on this. Asus site read up to 3200 but I read where some are using 3500 and 3700 memory. Thanks Steve

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by SRB442
Hi,
I will be building a new system soon and have decided on the asus p4c800-e mb with p4 2.8 cpu and want to know what the best memory would be for this board. I may try some overclocking on the machine so that is a consideration. There are so many choices and have read some but need some advice on this. Asus site read up to 3200 but I read where some are using 3500 and 3700 memory. Thanks Steve

I have that board and its bar none one of the best boards around. Regarding memory try to get some BH-5 chips like those used on OCZ Platinium Edition and Mushkin Black Level 2

Mushkin Level II is sold at Newegg considerably cheaper than buying from Mushkin direct.

Heres a couple links:

Mushkin at Newegg



OCZ Platinum



This stick also sports the Winbond BH-5 chips and is the cheapest, but not many people have these thus we don't know much other than its $99 a stick for Bh-5

[mrgreenjeans]

I second the above recommendations. And go for a gig.

[SeanOMatic]

It depends on what you want to do as well. The OCZ Platinum 3500 is great stuff, since it will do tight timings @ 434 MHz with minimal voltage. If you want to do 250 MHZ 1:1 or above, then I suggest some PC4000 Gold.

[zebkoolindc]

SeanOmatic not to insult your company or anything but Mushkin claim to have memory that runs at lower timings than OCZ

I could be BS but If it isnt wouldn't Mushkin be faster at a its stated speeds

512MB PC3500 CL2 - Black Hi Perf Level II
CAS latency: 2
RAS to CAS Delay: 3
Precharge Delay: 2
Active to Precharge Delay: 6
DDR Voltage 2.5-2.75V

should be faster than

OCZ EL DDR PC-3500 Dual Channel Gold
CL 2.5-3-3-7*
2.6 volts

???

those are right from the company's web pages

[SeanOMatic]

Oh, you are comparing the wrong products with each other.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...imited+Edition

This is a CL 2-2-3-6 product, just like the Mushkin.




Anandtech had an article that featured scores between the two modules as well as a handful of other modules.

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1914

[zebkoolindc]

oh sorry

[Speed_Mechanic2]

OCZ needs to get NewEgg some more OCZ PC3500 Platinum so that they can sell it in stock

[SRB442]

Thanks a lot for the replys so far. So I can't go wrong with either OCZ platinum 3500/3700 or Mushkin black level II 3500/3700? for my MB. I will probalbly be getting 2 512 sticks. Steve

[zebkoolindc]

from my searches (pricewatch and newegg) Mushkin pc3500 2-3-2-6 cost $145 for 512mb

and the ocz Sean was talking about is $170

is $50 over two sticks worth the differnce

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by SRB442
Thanks a lot for the replys so far. So I can't go wrong with either OCZ platinum 3500/3700 or Mushkin black level II 3500/3700? for my MB. I will probalbly be getting 2 512 sticks. Steve

I wouldn't knowingly steer you to a product if i wouldnt use it myself, nor would Speed_Mechanic

[SRB442]

I am still looking at memory for this system. Newegg has Mushkin PC3500 Black level II 1gig (2x512) for $288. Would this be good ram for me to some overclocking? Does this have the good chips? Thanks Steve

[Mr Gadget]

Originally posted by Speed_Mechanic2
OCZ needs to get NewEgg some more OCZ PC3500 Platinum so that they can sell it in stock

Got an email notification from NewEgg yesterday that they now have it in stock... dunno for how long though!

[Amair_sc]

Just a word of advice from my experience and the experience of many users on this board with OCZ PC 3500 Platinum Limited Edition (one of the two you are looking to buy):

Do not trust the Anandtech review, the memory will do it's specified timings but not much above that (if anything at all) with tight timings (tight timings=reason why you would buy this mem).

There is a thread in the memory section about this. I even pumped 3.2 volts in mine and the results were nowhere near what the Anandtech review achieved. The thing is, you want to hit a certain memory speed with nice timings, but you want to actually have it be stable at that speed, that is where the Anadtech review is confusing.

Here is the thread containing the experience of some members with the mem:

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...0&pagenumber=1

Like I said, it is a good product that will do what it is spec'ed for but not much above that (and you want above that if you have a 14 multiplier and plan on oc'ing).

Cheers!

[SRB442]

Thanks for the advise. It looks like I should stay away from the OCZ memory and go with the mushkin. Steve

[gustav]

Like I said, it is a good product that will do what it is spec'ed for but not much above that (and you want above that if you have a 14 multiplier and plan on oc'ing).

does this mean if i have a 2.8CGhz proc. and i want to overclock it, i should go with some pc4000? i was planning on going with corsair pc4000, but a friend was telling me tight timings are better than raw speed for gaming, which is what i do most. i'm still thinking of going with pc4000 (please let me know if a lower speed ram with tight timins is better for overclocking a 2.8 and also for gaming). like i said, i'm still thinking of going with pc4000, but i dont know if i should stick with corsair. i like them a lot and consider them the best memeory manufactuer, but they are expensive. maybe this is a sign that the stuff is really good? (you get what you pay for...) let me know if some other pc4000 is better...i this ram will overclock a 2.8CGhz proc in an asus p4p800 mobo and an ati radeon 9800 pro vid card.

[zebkoolindc]

gustav i would stay with somthing with low timings

most "high speed" memory has cl3 timings this is slower than ddr433 with cl2 timings

get some mushkin level2 ddr433 this will overclock a little with a 1:1 ratio taking a 2.8 to 3ghz and with a 5:4 ratio to 3.8ghz

and its low timings will be better for games than drr400 with high timings

if they made some ddr400 with 2-2-2-5 timings though

[Amair_sc]

Im guessing you meant ddr500 there ?

Cheers!

[gustav]

there are so many trade-offs. if i get ddr500, it has low timings, but is ultra fast and can overclock a 2.8 no problem at 1:1 ratio. but if i get a lower speed ram with bh-5's, its lower, can overclock some and if i want to oc my cpu (which i do) i have to set the ratio 5:4, on the plus side it has tight timings...i've heard tight timing ram is better for gaming, but i dont know if this is true. then again i've heard the speed of ddr500 more than makes up for the loss in tight timings because it is so fast and enables you to use 1:1 ratio. is the tight timings worth the 5:4 ratio and lower speed ram?

[SRB442]

I am going to order 1 gig (2x512) mushkin 3500 black level II and a 3.0C cpu from newegg for this board. If anyone thinks this won't work out let me know soon. Thanks Steve