Notices

Overclockers Forums > Hardware > Cooling
Cooling Discussion of fans, heatsinks, thermal pastes and putting it all together to keep your rig cool
Forum Jump

Thermal paste

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe Search this Thread
 
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-23-03, 12:25 AM Thread Starter   #1
acidburn2019
Registered



Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Harrisburg, Pa

 
Thermal paste


How much better is arctic silver 5 than 3? Also is this the best thermal paste out right now, if not what is?
acidburn2019 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 02:28 AM   #2
schismspeak
Member



Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: I'm now in Colorado

 
Maybe upto 2C better in temps, and yes to my knowledge it is the best.

__________________
HP DV6119us Laptop
AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50
2GB ram
80GB HD
DVD-RW drive
Creative SB Extreme Audio Notebook
Windows Vista SP1



HEAT
schismspeak is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 02:31 AM   #3
Twigs
Member

 
Twigs's Avatar 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO

 
i just dropped 2C off my idle temps from putting some as5 in place of my old as3...and yes, it is the best consumer level product(i have no idea about server/business thermal paste, it could be better but its probably only sold in bulk), some may argue, but then again, some may argue that beer counts as a vegetable

edit: wording
Twigs is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 07:01 AM   #4
archilochus
THE Senior FANMAN

 
archilochus's Avatar 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Houston,TX-USA

 
Heres a link were you can see some differences in TIMs.
AS 5 was not avalible at the time of testing.THE FANMAN

TEST LINK

__________________
MOBYDICK
Intel-2.4c-HT @ 2.9 *SP-94 w/ Delta 92mm HHE w/25mm spacer *FIC-865PE-Max
OCZ 2x512 EL Gold PC 4000 @ 1:1 *2.5/4/4/7 *BFG Geforce 7800 GS OC
80g.Maxtor PATA and SATA *Xaser III. v1000D modified
FULL LOAD Temp 36C / Syst. temp 23C /Ambient 20C (room temp)
F@H TEAM 32 :thup:
archilochus is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 07:11 AM   #5
Shin Akuma
Disabled



Join Date: Nov 2003

 
The best grease is Shin Etsu X23-7804E3. Kicks Ceramique's ass and is NON-CONDUCTIVE! What more could you ask for?
Shin Akuma is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 07:59 AM   #6
Jognt
All round good guy

 
Jognt's Avatar 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Netherlands

 
the shin etsu stuff is like very hard to apply, its very thick...

AS5 is also non conductive :P it is the other thing though... (the one allowing for cross-talk) it does NOT conduct high currents..

still, you should always pay attention when applying it anyway

(AS5 cools best, nothing is better...)

__________________
Are you new? Introduce yourself!

Current rig:

Fractal Design Define R4
Asus P8Z77-V
i5 3570k @ 4.3 offset OC w/ TR HR-02 Macho rev.A
2 * 4GB Crucal DDRIII-1866 @ XMP 9-9-9-27-47-2T
2x Asus GTX670 (SLI)
Crucial M4 256GB SSD | 4x Seagate 2TB in RAID10
BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 600W (Yes, that is enough power)

Remove your fangrills!
Jognt is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 06:10 PM   #7
jlin453
Member

 
jlin453's Avatar 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Austin, Texas

 
It's funny. I don't pay attention to modding and this forum for two months. I come back to find out there's an Artic Silver 5????
jlin453 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 08:17 PM   #8
Shin Akuma
Disabled



Join Date: Nov 2003

 
Quote:
Originally posted by Jognt
the shin etsu stuff is like very hard to apply, its very thick...

AS5 is also non conductive :P it is the other thing though... (the one allowing for cross-talk) it does NOT conduct high currents..

still, you should always pay attention when applying it anyway

(AS5 cools best, nothing is better...)

Nope it's not thick dude, the G-751 is THICK but the new X23-7804E3 is not... consistency the same as AS.
Shin Akuma is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 08:45 PM   #9
dalilman52
Member

 
dalilman52's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Houston

 
i prefer to use as5 on my cpu and ceramique for highly sensitive areas like chipsets...

__________________
The search function is there for a reason, USE IT!!!
dalilman52 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 09:24 PM   #10
stamasd
Member



Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NYC

 
Frankly for having used silicone-based stuff before and AS5 now, I must say I don't see much of a difference. Maybe 1 degree at most.

__________________
chown -R linux:users /world
stamasd is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 09:45 PM   #11
Mr_H
Member

 
Mr_H's Avatar 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Chicago Burbs

 
What was it that I read on Tom's Hardware.... Oh yea

A paste is a paste is a paste.
Mr_H is offline Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 09:57 PM   #12
AntmanMike
Member

 
AntmanMike's Avatar 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: 18 minutes South-west of Chicago.

10 Year Badge
 
AS, AS2, AS3, and AS5 are all capacitive, meaning they allow crosstalk but not current.

__________________

Intel Core i7-2600K
Asus Sabertooth P67
2x4gb G.Skill PC14900
EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX-480 *(soon to be 580)
4x Seagate 1TiB SATA - 2TiB RAID 10
Western Digital 1.5TiB (Storage)
AntmanMike is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 10:21 PM   #13
dalilman52
Member

 
dalilman52's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Houston

 
stamasd, the reason u are prolly not getting better temps is prolly cuz u didnt remove ALL of the previous TIM's minute particles left in the hs..u should lap and use acetone to remove any traces of the previous one..maybe u didnt, becuase i saw a big improvement over generic silicon junk and using AS5/ceramique

__________________
The search function is there for a reason, USE IT!!!
dalilman52 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 11:11 PM   #14
Shin Akuma
Disabled



Join Date: Nov 2003

 
Haha you're kidding right? There's no difference in temps between your so-called "silicon junk" and Ceramique...

BTW it's "silicone" not silicon...

Test them in a controlled environment and you'll see.
Shin Akuma is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-23-03, 11:38 PM   #15
dalilman52
Member

 
dalilman52's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Houston

 
shin akuma, its called a "typo" maybe uve heard of it

__________________
The search function is there for a reason, USE IT!!!
dalilman52 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-24-03, 09:23 AM   #16
omaticrail
Member

 
omaticrail's Avatar 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Seattle area

 
I'm about on board with Stamasd. When my old "junk" silicone began to fail after 1.5 years, resulting in a slow (6-month) rise of 4 degrees (C), I thought I'd get some AS5 and smack those temps back down.....oops. After a hundred hours of running with a high speed fan and several load-temp to shutdown cycles, temps are still 1 degree (C) higher than just before putting on the AS5, for a total of 5 degrees higher than I had on day one, two years ago, with the silicone "junk."

Actually I have to confess that I don't know that it is/was silicone. It's whatever was supplied by Swiftech in those days.

I used acetone to take the TIM off the CPU, and a combination of acetone and 1500 grit lapping to clean up the block. *shrug* I can't imagine doing any better than that, but am open to suggestions.

__________________
-------------------------- System built in 2005 --------------------------
CPU: Venice 3200 @ 2.55Ghz mobo: ASRock 939Dual-SATAII RAM: 1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
WB: Storm G4 Rad: BIP3 Fans: 3x Panaflo M1A GPU WB: Maze4 Acetal
Pump: DDC
omaticrail is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-24-03, 11:22 AM   #17
mata2974
Member

 
mata2974's Avatar 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Columbus, Ohio

 
HERE IS A HEAD TO HEAD COMPARISON BETWEEN 3 AND 5., 5 WINS ALL!!!!!!!!!!! LINK
mata2974 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-24-03, 08:45 PM   #18
omaticrail
Member

 
omaticrail's Avatar 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Seattle area

 
I think the point being made by some folks (at least by me), is that 5 may be better than 3, but it would seem there are other brands that are better than either. I realize that statement may make me a fool for not just bowing down to the masses that "believe," but I do not believe so easily, when my experience is the opposite. I'm happy to be wrong, cuz I already paid for this stuff, but I'm waiting for the proof. So far, I'm running hot on AS5.

__________________
-------------------------- System built in 2005 --------------------------
CPU: Venice 3200 @ 2.55Ghz mobo: ASRock 939Dual-SATAII RAM: 1GB Corsair XMS PC3200
WB: Storm G4 Rad: BIP3 Fans: 3x Panaflo M1A GPU WB: Maze4 Acetal
Pump: DDC
omaticrail is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-24-03, 09:28 PM   #19
DaWiper
Image Compare Man

 
DaWiper's Avatar 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norway

 
Omaticrail> Have U tried cleaning between the fins on the sink. The dust collected there during 1-2 years will reduce the sink-performance..
DaWiper is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 11-24-03, 09:46 PM   #20
stamasd
Member



Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NYC

 
Quote:
Originally posted by dalilman52
stamasd, the reason u are prolly not getting better temps is prolly cuz u didnt remove ALL of the previous TIM's minute particles left in the hs..u should lap and use acetone to remove any traces of the previous one..maybe u didnt, becuase i saw a big improvement over generic silicon junk and using AS5/ceramique
Sorry, but I put the AS5 on a brand new CPU (my 2nd Barton), and compare with the first one. And what I used on the other one wasn't even "thermal" paste, it was some generic silicone high viscosity grease used in vacuum pumps to provide seal under high vacuum.

__________________
chown -R linux:users /world
stamasd is offline   QUOTE Thanks

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe


Overclockers Forums > Hardware > Cooling
Cooling Discussion of fans, heatsinks, thermal pastes and putting it all together to keep your rig cool
Forum Jump

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Mobile Skin
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:46 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
You can add these icons by updating your profile information to include your Heatware ID, Benching Profile ID or your Folding/SETI profile ID. Edit your profile!
X

Welcome to Overclockers.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

New members like you have made this the best community on the Internet since 1998!


(4 digit year)

Why Join Us?

  • Share experience
  • Max out your hardware
  • Best forum members anywhere
  • Customized forum experience

Already a member?