black lvl 2 and Max3

pkrew · 12-17-03, 07:58 PM

I got some pc3500 black lvl 2 in today to see if I could do better than the hyperx that I have. I'm sure your mileage may vary but I was only able to boot into widows at 247 1/1 tight timings with the black lvl 2. I'm typing this at 250 1/1 tight timmings with the kingston. Its possible that the lvl2 has a problem with the low vtt of the Max3. Not sure will look into it further.

Speed_Mechanic2 · 12-17-03, 08:12 PM

What's the actual voltage getting to the memory on your Abit MAX3? - ~3.15-3.2V? How's the stability w/ 3V+? 247MHz (DDR496) or 250MHz (DDR500) are both great scores. Of course you know, price doesn't equal performance

pkrew · 12-17-03, 08:51 PM

I haven't made an actually measurement of the Vdmm. Its set for 3.2V and abitEQ reads 3.15V. Vtt reads 1.36. Its stable with the Kingston at 247 not at 250, but will run benches at 250. Haven't tested stabliliy of the Mushy at 247, but am somewhat disappointed in it and it will probably go into my second system.

johan851 · 12-17-03, 09:42 PM

How can you be disappointed with RAM rated at 216mhz doing 247ish? That's very very good...

I read somewhere around here that a guy got higher max stable memory speeds by putting a fan over the memory. Just a thought...

Nomjr · 12-17-03, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by johan851
How can you be disappointed with RAM rated at 216mhz doing 247ish? That's very very good...

we always want more than we already have

pkrew · 12-17-03, 11:23 PM

yeah, I was hoping to get to at least 250 stable, lol. Oh well, back to the drawing board.

larva · 12-17-03, 11:56 PM

Older BH5's are better than new ones. HyperX 3500 w/BH5 is about the best BH5 there ever was. I don't care what you call it, rate it, or charge for it anything current that carries BH5 is likely to be no better than what you already have, and as you saw with the Mushkin, might well be worse.

johan851 · 12-18-03, 01:06 AM

Is any of the HyperX like that still available? If it still does better than the Mushkin then it's worth a try.

pkrew · 12-18-03, 10:54 AM

You're right of course Larva, I thought it would be worth a try. Maybe an adjustable 3v rail PSU would give me the extra I'm looking for, but again maybe I just need to be happy where I'm at, lol

UnrealCpu · 12-18-03, 06:17 PM

I know overclocking can be an adiction but i think im really happy where im at with the money i spent. I think from here i will wait for the prescot and then upgrade to something that will gurrantee me 4gighertz say a 3.0c presscot for 200 bucks
im sure you computer is faster than mine .
I had a question though i have a sparkle 400 watt thats modded. As i remember the 3volt rail was raised along with the 5 volt rail. WIll this help with the max 3

pkrew · 12-19-03, 05:53 PM

I'm not sure it would help and I'm sure your machine does very well. It would do better however if you got yourself some bh-5 and ran it 1/1 with the best timmings than you can get. I ran 2001se with and with out GAT enabled, meaning F1 vs Auto and there was a 400 point drop without F1 enabled

12-17-03, 07:58 PM	Thread Starter #1
pkrew Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nashville, TN	black lvl 2 and Max3 I got some pc3500 black lvl 2 in today to see if I could do better than the hyperx that I have. I'm sure your mileage may vary but I was only able to boot into widows at 247 1/1 tight timings with the black lvl 2. I'm typing this at 250 1/1 tight timmings with the kingston. Its possible that the lvl2 has a problem with the low vtt of the Max3. Not sure will look into it further.
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12-17-03, 08:12 PM	#2
Speed_Mechanic2 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ft. Hood, TX	What's the actual voltage getting to the memory on your Abit MAX3? - ~3.15-3.2V? How's the stability w/ 3V+? 247MHz (DDR496) or 250MHz (DDR500) are both great scores. Of course you know, price doesn't equal performance
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12-17-03, 08:51 PM	Thread Starter #3
pkrew Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nashville, TN	I haven't made an actually measurement of the Vdmm. Its set for 3.2V and abitEQ reads 3.15V. Vtt reads 1.36. Its stable with the Kingston at 247 not at 250, but will run benches at 250. Haven't tested stabliliy of the Mushy at 247, but am somewhat disappointed in it and it will probably go into my second system.
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12-17-03, 09:42 PM	#4
johan851 Insatiably Malcontent Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle, WA	How can you be disappointed with RAM rated at 216mhz doing 247ish? That's very very good... I read somewhere around here that a guy got higher max stable memory speeds by putting a fan over the memory. Just a thought... __________________ ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 \| 2500K @ 4.6GHz \| 2x4GB Samsung DDR3 \| GTX460 768mb 120GB Crucial M4 \| 2x 2TB Samsung F4 \| Seasonic S12 600w AV-710 --> y2 DAC --> Custom M^3 --> Custom LM3875 ChipAmp --> Modula MTs Dual Dell 2007WFP \| Watercooled
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12-17-03, 11:23 PM	Thread Starter #6
pkrew Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nashville, TN	yeah, I was hoping to get to at least 250 stable, lol. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
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12-17-03, 11:56 PM	#7
larva Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002	Older BH5's are better than new ones. HyperX 3500 w/BH5 is about the best BH5 there ever was. I don't care what you call it, rate it, or charge for it anything current that carries BH5 is likely to be no better than what you already have, and as you saw with the Mushkin, might well be worse. __________________ Home Rig - cod2 tool--------------------------------------------------------------------------------School Rig - work tool CPU P4 561 @ 220fsb/4GHz------------------------------------------------------------------------CPU P4 506 @ 200fsb/4GHz MB Abit AG8-V Video EVGA 7800GT-----------------------------------------------------------------MB Abit AS8-V Video EVGA GF 6200 Memory 4x512MB BH5 - DDR440-2,2,2,5------------------------------------------------------Memory 2x512MB Corsair VS400-2.5,3,3,8 Cooling Scythe Ninja w/103cfm 120x38mm Sanyo-------------------------------------------Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer 4 w/Intel 92mm fan Sound SoundBastid Live Case AMS gTower PS TPII-480----------------------------------Sound Integrated audio Case Antec SLK1650 PS SP2-350 Storage 74GB Raptor - 2x200GB Samsung - LG4167b DVD-RW------------------------Storage 2x160GB Hitachi SATA - LG4163b DVD-RW - 250MB Zip Display Dell 2005FPW 20" widescreen LCD Printer - Canon i9900---------------Display Viewsonic VX2025 20" widescreen LCD Printer - Canon i860
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12-18-03, 01:06 AM	#8
johan851 Insatiably Malcontent Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle, WA	Is any of the HyperX like that still available? If it still does better than the Mushkin then it's worth a try. __________________ ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 \| 2500K @ 4.6GHz \| 2x4GB Samsung DDR3 \| GTX460 768mb 120GB Crucial M4 \| 2x 2TB Samsung F4 \| Seasonic S12 600w AV-710 --> y2 DAC --> Custom M^3 --> Custom LM3875 ChipAmp --> Modula MTs Dual Dell 2007WFP \| Watercooled
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12-18-03, 10:54 AM	Thread Starter #9
pkrew Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nashville, TN	You're right of course Larva, I thought it would be worth a try. Maybe an adjustable 3v rail PSU would give me the extra I'm looking for, but again maybe I just need to be happy where I'm at, lol
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12-18-03, 06:17 PM	#10
UnrealCpu Disabled Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Savannah	Im happy at3650mhz I know overclocking can be an adiction but i think im really happy where im at with the money i spent. I think from here i will wait for the prescot and then upgrade to something that will gurrantee me 4gighertz say a 3.0c presscot for 200 bucks im sure you computer is faster than mine . I had a question though i have a sparkle 400 watt thats modded. As i remember the 3volt rail was raised along with the 5 volt rail. WIll this help with the max 3
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12-19-03, 05:53 PM	Thread Starter #11
pkrew Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nashville, TN	I'm not sure it would help and I'm sure your machine does very well. It would do better however if you got yourself some bh-5 and ran it 1/1 with the best timmings than you can get. I ran 2001se with and with out GAT enabled, meaning F1 vs Auto and there was a 400 point drop without F1 enabled
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