Saphire good or bad?

harryinny3 · 12-22-03, 09:07 PM

Wife ordered me a 9600XT and im wondering if the Saphire cards are good? I will say one thing though, Noone has them in stock. She got the last one on zipzoomfly.

Any thoughts?

Giving the kid my 9600pro. I couldnt afford anything more expensive.

Harry

fazz33 · 12-22-03, 10:19 PM

most people think saphire is good, and my older sapphire 9200 served me well so i think its pretty good too

Evnas · 12-22-03, 10:39 PM

Check the "Who makes the best ATi Video Cards?" poll. Sapphire comes in second only to ATi

Nebulous · 12-22-03, 10:44 PM

I got the 9700 atlantis pro ultimate and i luv it !

http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/Sapph...00ProUltimate/

I think you'll be very pleased

=ACID RAIN= · 12-23-03, 12:09 AM

Harry, I got the same card you ordered, the sapphire 9600XT from zipzoomfly. It is an excellent card, and I have it running at 550/700 now, from a default of 500/650 (325 DDR, if you will). I must say I am very pleased with this card

q149 · 12-23-03, 12:27 AM

Sapphire made some shabby 9600 Pro's

Not sure about the XT's

Bugalaman · 12-23-03, 12:57 AM

hell, my sapphire has done waaayyyy more than i'd ever dream

Matthias99 · 12-23-03, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evnas
Check the "Who makes the best ATi Video Cards?" poll. Sapphire comes in second only to ATi

Which is funny, because Sapphire manufacturers the BBA cards. But anyway...

Strida · 12-23-03, 02:02 AM

They don't manufacture all of them, but a lot of them are actually made by Sapphire.

BBA will be your best 100% sure bet in the way of quality usually. Next up is Sapphire which you can almost always depend on for a good quality product.

TUK101 · 12-23-03, 04:24 AM

My Saphire 9500 is working great modded to a 9700. They may not be quite as good of quality as one of the better known card makers (MSI, ATI, ABIT, etc.) but they seem to make a good budget card. If the price was right then I cannot see where you can go wrong.

Evnas · 12-23-03, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matthias99

Which is funny, because Sapphire manufacturers the BBA cards. But anyway...

And TSMC manufactures the cores...all ATi does is basically "rent" Sapphire's fab plants

harryinny3 · 12-23-03, 06:19 AM

For the replys. Its weird I ordered the card last night and i could add and check out, it said in stock. Then after checkout I went back to look at the card again, and it said out of stock,back order. God i hope i got the last one. You cant find ANY Saphire cards in stock Anywhere. My kid is getting new games for xmas and the 4200 aint cutting it. The games Will not install unless you install DX9 and the card slows way down during play.

I had to cancel an order last night when the place sent me an email saying card was on back order after i paid. I wrote them back and Made them cancel it asap.

The card was only $155. Just doesnt have the fancy packaging is all.

Glad its a good card. And thanks again.

Harry

wanna_b_rich_13 · 12-23-03, 08:01 AM

Yes they make good cards. They are out of stock for a reason. You don't see many Connect 3D 9600XT out of stock these days which may red flag you.....I personally never even tried one though so I really can't say anything but I can say Sapphire is probably better, as well as Powercolor.

harryinny3 · 12-23-03, 10:21 AM

Order status says Packed!! COOL!! Paid for 2nd day air, so Xmas should be a blast!! From a search, i guess i got the last dang sapphire Card out there. Very cool.

Thanks all.

Harry

sp00L · 12-23-03, 10:33 AM

I beg to differ. I ordered a Sapphire 9800pro OEM and it was defective out of the box (or rather out of the bubble wrap). I returned it for an ATI 9800XT which runs great.

I have a theory. Sure Sapphire makes the pcb/whole card for ATI but how does Sapphire remain competitive? Simple, cutting cost which lowers price. ATI has Sapphire build ATI's card to a higher standard and Sapphire uses cheaper lower quality parts to cut cost and remain competitive.

Go check out Sapphire's customer support forums. They don't have as stellar of a reputation as most would suspect. But on the other hand a lot of users here have had great experiences with Sapphire and these are the only forums I trust.

slater3333uk · 12-23-03, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by q149
Sapphire made some shabby 9600 Pro's

Not sure about the XT's

Well my pair of sapphire 9600pros are s*** hot!!! Im talking 490/390 with stock volts! Whats so shabby about that???

(You must mean Powercolor

)

In England we dont have BBA cards. Sapphire are definatly the best!

homicsbane · 12-23-03, 03:52 PM

Sapphire cards are excellent, but watch out for their customer service/support, its not that great.

12-22-03, 09:07 PM	Thread Starter #1
harryinny3 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York	Saphire good or bad? Wife ordered me a 9600XT and im wondering if the Saphire cards are good? I will say one thing though, Noone has them in stock. She got the last one on zipzoomfly. Any thoughts? Giving the kid my 9600pro. I couldnt afford anything more expensive. Harry
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12-22-03, 10:19 PM	#2
fazz33 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: (CANADA) thornhill onatrio	most people think saphire is good, and my older sapphire 9200 served me well so i think its pretty good too
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12-22-03, 10:39 PM	#3
Evnas Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle, WA	Check the "Who makes the best ATi Video Cards?" poll. Sapphire comes in second only to ATi
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12-22-03, 10:44 PM	#4
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12-23-03, 12:09 AM	#5
=ACID RAIN= Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kingwood, TX	Harry, I got the same card you ordered, the sapphire 9600XT from zipzoomfly. It is an excellent card, and I have it running at 550/700 now, from a default of 500/650 (325 DDR, if you will). I must say I am very pleased with this card __________________ MY HEAT \| Websense who? \| Windows lockdown Mine: Q6600 . IP35 Pro . 8GB RAM . Velociraptor 150 . Win7 Enterprise Wife: E6600 . GA-G31M-ES2 . 4GB RAM . Buncha drives . WinXP Pro Domain Controller: E6600 . GA-G31M-S2L . 2GB RAM . 36GB Raptor . 2 x 1.5TB WD Green . 2008 R2 HTPC: E6300 . P5B . 1GB RAM . 320GB . Win7 Enterprise Sandbox 1: Dell Optiplex GX270 SFF (new caps) . 1GB RAM . 120GB . FreeBSD 7.2 Sandbox 2: 3800+ X2. K8N Neo4 (new caps) . 1GB RAM . 4 x 400GB RAID0 . 2008 R2 (WDS, WSUS) Sandbox 3: Opteron 146 . 768MB RAM . 120GB . 2008 R2 (headless, no video, remote only) Laptop: Vostro 1700 . 4GB RAM . Win7 Enterprise
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12-23-03, 12:27 AM	#6
q149 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Japan	Sapphire made some shabby 9600 Pro's Not sure about the XT's
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12-23-03, 12:57 AM	#7
Bugalaman Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hill AFB, UT	hell, my sapphire has done waaayyyy more than i'd ever dream __________________ Dell XPS M1530, C2D T9300 2.5ghz 6MB, 8600M, 4GB Ram, 1920x1200 15.4", 320GB HDD
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12-23-03, 02:02 AM	#9
Strida Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa	They don't manufacture all of them, but a lot of them are actually made by Sapphire. BBA will be your best 100% sure bet in the way of quality usually. Next up is Sapphire which you can almost always depend on for a good quality product. __________________ Processor - Xeon 3060, 3.8ghz Motherboard - Abit IP35-E, 423 x 9 Ram - 4GB GSkill, DDR2 1000 Video Card - nVidia 8800GT, stock Power Supply - Sparkle/Fortron 550 Watt Sound Card - X-Fi Fatal1ty / DTS Connect Audio: Speakers - Harman Kardon HK-254 / L, R Athena AS-B2 / SL, SR Athena AS-B1 / C Athena AS-C1 / Sub Premier Acoustic PA-120 650W Audio: Cans - Grado SR-225 / Sennheiser HD-580 / PIMETA Amp Heatware
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12-23-03, 04:24 AM	#10
TUK101 Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wash. State	My Saphire 9500 is working great modded to a 9700. They may not be quite as good of quality as one of the better known card makers (MSI, ATI, ABIT, etc.) but they seem to make a good budget card. If the price was right then I cannot see where you can go wrong. __________________ My Heatware: http://heatware.com/eval.php?id=8937
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12-23-03, 06:19 AM	Thread Starter #12
harryinny3 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York	Thank You all For the replys. Its weird I ordered the card last night and i could add and check out, it said in stock. Then after checkout I went back to look at the card again, and it said out of stock,back order. God i hope i got the last one. You cant find ANY Saphire cards in stock Anywhere. My kid is getting new games for xmas and the 4200 aint cutting it. The games Will not install unless you install DX9 and the card slows way down during play. I had to cancel an order last night when the place sent me an email saying card was on back order after i paid. I wrote them back and Made them cancel it asap. The card was only $155. Just doesnt have the fancy packaging is all. Glad its a good card. And thanks again. Harry
	QUOTE Thanks

12-23-03, 08:01 AM	#13
wanna_b_rich_13 Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Yes they make good cards. They are out of stock for a reason. You don't see many Connect 3D 9600XT out of stock these days which may red flag you.....I personally never even tried one though so I really can't say anything but I can say Sapphire is probably better, as well as Powercolor.
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12-23-03, 10:21 AM	Thread Starter #14
harryinny3 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York	YES YES YES!! Order status says Packed!! COOL!! Paid for 2nd day air, so Xmas should be a blast!! From a search, i guess i got the last dang sapphire Card out there. Very cool. Thanks all. Harry
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12-23-03, 10:33 AM	#15
sp00L Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo, NY	I beg to differ. I ordered a Sapphire 9800pro OEM and it was defective out of the box (or rather out of the bubble wrap). I returned it for an ATI 9800XT which runs great. I have a theory. Sure Sapphire makes the pcb/whole card for ATI but how does Sapphire remain competitive? Simple, cutting cost which lowers price. ATI has Sapphire build ATI's card to a higher standard and Sapphire uses cheaper lower quality parts to cut cost and remain competitive. Go check out Sapphire's customer support forums. They don't have as stellar of a reputation as most would suspect. But on the other hand a lot of users here have had great experiences with Sapphire and these are the only forums I trust.
	QUOTE Thanks

12-23-03, 03:52 PM	#17
homicsbane Member Join Date: Jun 2001	Sapphire cards are excellent, but watch out for their customer service/support, its not that great. __________________ Intel Core i5 2500K @ 4.6Ghz Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 Sapphire Radeon 6850 Toxic @ 965/1175 G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1600 CL9 @ 1800 CL9 Seagate 7200.11 500GB Seagate 7200.12 1TB Corsair CX600 Antec Three Hundred
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