HDD MP3 players. (ipod, zen, ...)

Borisw37 · 12-31-03, 12:08 AM

I am thinking of geting a HDD mp3 player. I think I-pods are way over priced, but creative labs seems to have reasonable prices.
So whats the difference between
Creative Nomad Jukebox
Zen, Zen NX, and Zen Xtra?

germanjulian · 12-31-03, 06:47 AM

just get the zen NX.

cant be bothered to explain again why I HATE THE IPOD and how much better then zen is. even sounds better.

PM me when you get one and if you have problems.

oh and get this www.redchairsoftware.com and dont use the creative play centre bullpoo. just download the drivers from www.nomadness.com

creative and software is like a 5 year old kid trying to program windows

but the player is wicked!!!!!!!!

Evnas · 12-31-03, 08:13 AM

I'll keep it short and sweet...anything BUT the iPod, heh

Borisw37 · 12-31-03, 09:26 AM

I was not really going to buy the ipod, i just dont have that much money, and dont see why it should cost that much. But i would still like to know the diff. between NX, and Xtra, i was not able to find much detailed info on Creative website.

legendary · 12-31-03, 06:21 PM

Sorry. I don't mean to hijack your thread, but what are the reasons for hating the iPod? I own one and the only complaint I have is the battery life.

Nero · 12-31-03, 08:24 PM

The iPod is a great machine, but I do believe that you pay through the nose for it's sexyness. In a head-to-head (but subjective, mind you) comparison between a 2nd generation iPod and a Zen Xtra, I can say that the Xtra sounds noticably better (using the same mp3 and Sony MDR-V600 headphones). The fatal flaw I see with the Zen is that you can't really use it as a portable hard drive like the iPod. In order to transfer files to a Zen, you have to install and use a piece of software. This means it's not practical to take it with me from class to class and move my files around. This small detail alone is reason enough for me to hold off on getting a Zen.

Not a full review, but hope it helps!

pummer · 01-29-04, 07:55 PM

sorry to come in late, but just noticed this thread. here is a short review of my Zen Xtra. I really like it.

The Xtra is definitely worth it over the NX. I've seen the 30GB Xtra on sale for $219 lately

The NX has a much smaller screen than the Xtra. Other than that they are exactly the same except the HD sizes.

Jpantoga · 01-29-04, 08:31 PM

you guys only hate the ipod cuz u cant afford it( neither can I) but I honestly think that it is the best...by far, even if it may cost a lot

Col_Loki · 01-29-04, 09:03 PM

Im thinkin of going with the Zen also, no way im paying double for an iPod. I would even rather the looks of the Zen TBH.

My question is, where is the cheapest place to buy them (online) ?? Would be a big help cheers!!

Ravsitar · 01-29-04, 10:21 PM

I think the biggest joke with the IPODs is that you CAN'T replace the battery when it wears down. Rechargables only have so many charge cycles before they start to wear out. Aparently Apply felt that by making the battery not user servicable they'd get people just to buy a new one after a year or two when the battery on the old one wore out.

Evnas · 01-30-04, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ravsitar
I think the biggest joke with the IPODs is that you CAN'T replace the battery when it wears down. Rechargables only have so many charge cycles before they start to wear out. Aparently Apply felt that by making the battery not user servicable they'd get people just to buy a new one after a year or two when the battery on the old one wore out.

My exact beef with the iPod and why I tell people NOT to get it. Not to mention its WAY overpriced, just like their computers. Apple hasnt release something for what its worth since the first Macintosh, heh

Quote:

Originally posted by Col_Loki
Im thinkin of going with the Zen also, no way im paying double for an iPod. I would even rather the looks of the Zen TBH.

My question is, where is the cheapest place to buy them (online) ?? Would be a big help cheers!!

www.pricewatch.com

adrian nelson · 01-30-04, 04:39 AM

yep i agree with, well everbody, get the zen, i have one it is good,

Nero · 01-30-04, 11:46 AM

Jpantoga. You say that like it's a bad thing. The iPod is a product, it's *meant* to be purchased. It's a perfectly valid criticism that the iPod costs too much (in comparison to it's competition). I agree that it is the best out there, but since money *is* an object, we have to treat it as such.

If the posted said that money wasn't an issue, then it could be taken out of the picture, and the iPod would most likely win. Since money is in the picture, many people see the Zen Xtra as a value-priced alternative to the iPod.

MooMasster716 · 01-30-04, 07:12 PM

What about the rio karma. i love mine cuse it has lits of eq options and sounds great. Also has a very nice bundle os features. Its a little thicher but alot shorter thast the ipod. $300 for 20gb.

jkay · 03-09-04, 12:39 AM

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12-31-03, 12:08 AM	Thread Starter #1
Borisw37 Member Join Date: Aug 2003	HDD MP3 players. (ipod, zen, ...) I am thinking of geting a HDD mp3 player. I think I-pods are way over priced, but creative labs seems to have reasonable prices. So whats the difference between Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen, Zen NX, and Zen Xtra?
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12-31-03, 06:47 AM	#2
germanjulian Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Frankfurt/London	just get the zen NX. cant be bothered to explain again why I HATE THE IPOD and how much better then zen is. even sounds better. PM me when you get one and if you have problems. oh and get this www.redchairsoftware.com and dont use the creative play centre bullpoo. just download the drivers from www.nomadness.com creative and software is like a 5 year old kid trying to program windows but the player is wicked!!!!!!!! __________________ /\|\ Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Intel C2D E6600, 4GB Corsair XMS2-6400C4 DDR2, E-VGA GeForce 7800 GT, Asus Xonar D2, 160GB Intel X25-m SSD, 1TB HD, Coolermaster Cosmos, etc. see my website google my name/\|\
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12-31-03, 08:13 AM	#3
Evnas Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle, WA	I'll keep it short and sweet...anything BUT the iPod, heh
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12-31-03, 09:26 AM	Thread Starter #4
Borisw37 Member Join Date: Aug 2003	I was not really going to buy the ipod, i just dont have that much money, and dont see why it should cost that much. But i would still like to know the diff. between NX, and Xtra, i was not able to find much detailed info on Creative website.
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12-31-03, 06:21 PM	#5
legendary Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern California	Sorry. I don't mean to hijack your thread, but what are the reasons for hating the iPod? I own one and the only complaint I have is the battery life.
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12-31-03, 08:24 PM	#6
Nero Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Brooklyn!	The iPod is a great machine, but I do believe that you pay through the nose for it's sexyness. In a head-to-head (but subjective, mind you) comparison between a 2nd generation iPod and a Zen Xtra, I can say that the Xtra sounds noticably better (using the same mp3 and Sony MDR-V600 headphones). The fatal flaw I see with the Zen is that you can't really use it as a portable hard drive like the iPod. In order to transfer files to a Zen, you have to install and use a piece of software. This means it's not practical to take it with me from class to class and move my files around. This small detail alone is reason enough for me to hold off on getting a Zen. Not a full review, but hope it helps!
	QUOTE Thanks

01-29-04, 07:55 PM	#7
pummer Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: buffalo ny	sorry to come in late, but just noticed this thread. here is a short review of my Zen Xtra. I really like it. The Xtra is definitely worth it over the NX. I've seen the 30GB Xtra on sale for $219 lately The NX has a much smaller screen than the Xtra. Other than that they are exactly the same except the HD sizes.
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01-29-04, 08:31 PM	#8
Jpantoga Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Evanston(chicago)	you guys only hate the ipod cuz u cant afford it( neither can I) but I honestly think that it is the best...by far, even if it may cost a lot
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01-29-04, 09:03 PM	#9
Col_Loki Member Join Date: Jul 2003	Im thinkin of going with the Zen also, no way im paying double for an iPod. I would even rather the looks of the Zen TBH. My question is, where is the cheapest place to buy them (online) ?? Would be a big help cheers!!
	QUOTE Thanks

01-29-04, 10:21 PM	#10
Ravsitar Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnetonka, MN	I think the biggest joke with the IPODs is that you CAN'T replace the battery when it wears down. Rechargables only have so many charge cycles before they start to wear out. Aparently Apply felt that by making the battery not user servicable they'd get people just to buy a new one after a year or two when the battery on the old one wore out.
	QUOTE Thanks

01-30-04, 04:39 AM	#12
adrian nelson Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: new zealand	yep i agree with, well everbody, get the zen, i have one it is good,
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01-30-04, 11:46 AM	#13
Nero Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Brooklyn!	Jpantoga. You say that like it's a bad thing. The iPod is a product, it's meant to be purchased. It's a perfectly valid criticism that the iPod costs too much (in comparison to it's competition). I agree that it is the best out there, but since money is an object, we have to treat it as such. If the posted said that money wasn't an issue, then it could be taken out of the picture, and the iPod would most likely win. Since money is in the picture, many people see the Zen Xtra as a value-priced alternative to the iPod.
	QUOTE Thanks

01-30-04, 07:12 PM	#14
MooMasster716 Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fontana, CA	What about the rio karma. i love mine cuse it has lits of eq options and sounds great. Also has a very nice bundle os features. Its a little thicher but alot shorter thast the ipod. $300 for 20gb. __________________ Intel Q9550 @3ghz ### Xigmatech HDT-1283 4GB G.Skill F2 6400CL5-2GBPQ @840mhz Gigabyte EP43-UD3L ### XFX Nvidia GTX275 500gb Seagate 7200.10 1TB Samsung F3 1000Watt Cooler Master Real Power PS 10 case fans of pure silence on 2 Sunbeam Fan Controlers CoolerMaster 690 My Heatware
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03-09-04, 12:39 AM	#15
jkay Registered Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Sarasota	*Edited by SpeeDj* We don't permit selling outside of the classifieds, I suggest you re read the forum rules and you will see this. Don't be selling things outside of the classifieds again please. Thank you Sincerely OC Forums Staff *Edited by SpeeDj*
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