Whats better than a 8500?

Foxie3a · 01-05-04, 02:54 AM

What can I get for around $70 that is better than a 8500? I want only ATI.

PreservedSwine · 01-05-04, 09:32 AM

Nothing...for that price, you already have the best peice of harware out there......

Yuriman · 01-05-04, 09:39 AM

$70 is the price of a new radeon 8500. Not much out there for that price. Some may say get the ti4200, but thats under a 5% speed increase, and worse IQ to boot.

Foxie3a · 01-05-04, 10:40 AM

what is the IQ of the card? I don't understand that term, its never been explained to me, or have I read it anywhere. A VERY simple explanations please.

Maybe I'll get some of those good Ramsinks that I hear about..and a nice heatsink..maybe cut the fins halfway down or something..and a nice fan on it..overclock that core and memory.

PreservedSwine · 01-05-04, 11:29 AM

IQ = Image quality

Foxie3a · 01-05-04, 11:56 AM

thanks.

And yes, I have had the opportunity to play with a GF4MX440. And the image quality was pretty bad, although it was on an LCD, and those arn't even comparable in my book.

My 8500, along with my Flat CRT, it looks very nice, and robust.

Cyrix_2k · 01-05-04, 07:46 PM

WHAT?! Quality LCD's usually have BETTER IQ then CRT's unless you have a really nice one or run the LCD's res at a non-native res or the LCD is hooked up using an analog cable. The reason is that the pixels on an LCD can't move, so the picture is always "Square" and when using DVI, the picture on the screen is mapped out pixel by pixel. On a CRT, the vid card kinda says "put that part of the image somewhere over there"and so on. How can the image quality be better on a CRT when there are really only 6 wires controlling the picture? (R,G,B, and their respective grounds. I'm not counting the H-sync and V-sync) Only top-quality CRT's can match the IQ of a quality LCD. If the LCD's cheap, then I can see your point. Cheap LCD's may suffer from ghosting and bland color due to relaxed specs.

Foxie3a · 01-05-04, 11:58 PM

both were $300.

01-05-04, 02:54 AM	Thread Starter #1
Foxie3a Normal Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Modesto, CA	Whats better than a 8500? What can I get for around $70 that is better than a 8500? I want only ATI. __________________ Dual Xeon X5482 E0 3.2/12M/1600 (400x8 1.26v) Supermicro X7DWA-N, 14GB ECC/Fully Buffered (400, 5-5-5, 1.8v) Radeon 5770 1GB Triple LCDs (22/22/24") Boot: 5x SAS/15K Drives in RAID5 (~350mb/s) Storage: 17 hard drives from 10K to 15K RPM. All SCSI Hot Swap. PCP&C 1.2KW Single 12v, 90A Rail Auzen X-FI Prelude <- Digital -> Denon Receiver -> Sennheiser HD650 Headphones.
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01-05-04, 09:32 AM	#2
PreservedSwine Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ft. Myers, Fl.	Nothing...for that price, you already have the best peice of harware out there......
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01-05-04, 09:39 AM	#3
Yuriman Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The OCFORUMS	$70 is the price of a new radeon 8500. Not much out there for that price. Some may say get the ti4200, but thats under a 5% speed increase, and worse IQ to boot.
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01-05-04, 10:40 AM	Thread Starter #4
Foxie3a Normal Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Modesto, CA	what is the IQ of the card? I don't understand that term, its never been explained to me, or have I read it anywhere. A VERY simple explanations please. Maybe I'll get some of those good Ramsinks that I hear about..and a nice heatsink..maybe cut the fins halfway down or something..and a nice fan on it..overclock that core and memory. __________________ Dual Xeon X5482 E0 3.2/12M/1600 (400x8 1.26v) Supermicro X7DWA-N, 14GB ECC/Fully Buffered (400, 5-5-5, 1.8v) Radeon 5770 1GB Triple LCDs (22/22/24") Boot: 5x SAS/15K Drives in RAID5 (~350mb/s) Storage: 17 hard drives from 10K to 15K RPM. All SCSI Hot Swap. PCP&C 1.2KW Single 12v, 90A Rail Auzen X-FI Prelude <- Digital -> Denon Receiver -> Sennheiser HD650 Headphones.
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01-05-04, 11:29 AM	#5
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01-05-04, 11:56 AM	Thread Starter #6
Foxie3a Normal Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Modesto, CA	thanks. And yes, I have had the opportunity to play with a GF4MX440. And the image quality was pretty bad, although it was on an LCD, and those arn't even comparable in my book. My 8500, along with my Flat CRT, it looks very nice, and robust. __________________ Dual Xeon X5482 E0 3.2/12M/1600 (400x8 1.26v) Supermicro X7DWA-N, 14GB ECC/Fully Buffered (400, 5-5-5, 1.8v) Radeon 5770 1GB Triple LCDs (22/22/24") Boot: 5x SAS/15K Drives in RAID5 (~350mb/s) Storage: 17 hard drives from 10K to 15K RPM. All SCSI Hot Swap. PCP&C 1.2KW Single 12v, 90A Rail Auzen X-FI Prelude <- Digital -> Denon Receiver -> Sennheiser HD650 Headphones.
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01-05-04, 07:46 PM	#7
Cyrix_2k Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, MD (School) - Westminster, MD (home)	WHAT?! Quality LCD's usually have BETTER IQ then CRT's unless you have a really nice one or run the LCD's res at a non-native res or the LCD is hooked up using an analog cable. The reason is that the pixels on an LCD can't move, so the picture is always "Square" and when using DVI, the picture on the screen is mapped out pixel by pixel. On a CRT, the vid card kinda says "put that part of the image somewhere over there"and so on. How can the image quality be better on a CRT when there are really only 6 wires controlling the picture? (R,G,B, and their respective grounds. I'm not counting the H-sync and V-sync) Only top-quality CRT's can match the IQ of a quality LCD. If the LCD's cheap, then I can see your point. Cheap LCD's may suffer from ghosting and bland color due to relaxed specs. __________________ ASRock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen3 2500k @ 4.9ghz Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO vCore 1.287 \|Idle: 33°c \| Full load: 68°c 16gb Corsair XMS 3 \| Sapphire 6950 2GB UNLOCKED F O L D For Team 32!! Black belt Ubercloxx0r Audio Technica ATH-A900's "yet another issue with the R-series. If I actually use it on my lap, I can feel my sperm count dropping."
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01-05-04, 11:58 PM	Thread Starter #8
Foxie3a Normal Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Modesto, CA	both were $300. __________________ Dual Xeon X5482 E0 3.2/12M/1600 (400x8 1.26v) Supermicro X7DWA-N, 14GB ECC/Fully Buffered (400, 5-5-5, 1.8v) Radeon 5770 1GB Triple LCDs (22/22/24") Boot: 5x SAS/15K Drives in RAID5 (~350mb/s) Storage: 17 hard drives from 10K to 15K RPM. All SCSI Hot Swap. PCP&C 1.2KW Single 12v, 90A Rail Auzen X-FI Prelude <- Digital -> Denon Receiver -> Sennheiser HD650 Headphones.
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