my new amd computer

nightmare3215 · 02-07-04, 09:47 AM

Abit NF7-s V2
Barton 2500+ retail
Radeon 9800 pro 128mb
aspire x-dreamer w/included 350w turbolink psu
Geil Value Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 w/heat spreaders

How's that? All together it's gonna cost me $506, which should fit me quite nicely price wise considering shipping (I only have $519). Does this computer look all right, and do you think I might be able to get a few 100 mhz overclock on this thing? I realize the psu blows and the ram isn't exactly stunning, but what can I expect w/$519 ?

Top Hat Theater · 02-07-04, 09:52 AM

Most 2500s will do 2GHz on default voltage so I'd say it's possible provided your RAM will allow it (which it should). What HSF are you using?

~THT

nightmare3215 · 02-07-04, 09:54 AM

I've been thinking, I can wait a few more weeks, and get an antec lan boy with a fortron 400w psu, but is that worth the extra $86?

nightmare3215 · 02-07-04, 09:56 AM

I'm gonna use the retail hsf but I can lap the hs if it makes a big difference, I'll be using as5.

The Coolest · 02-07-04, 10:03 AM

it should make 2-5C difference depending on the lap job, and how bad the surface was before lapping

Sharkman · 02-07-04, 10:06 AM

You would be much better off getting an aftermarket HSF. The stock is only rated for well stock

Once you start pushing your proc the stock HSF will have a very hard time dissapaiting the heat. You should also wait to get the 9800 until after the new cards come out. The prices will definatly drop at that time if not soon after.

nightmare3215 · 02-07-04, 10:15 AM

allright, thanks for the advice, maybe by then I'll have more $!!

nightmare3215 · 02-07-04, 12:56 PM

I found an "ATI 9800 pro 128mb" for $217. Since you are telling me to wait, how much of a drop will we see when the new cards come out?

Sharkman · 02-07-04, 06:26 PM

Usually you can expect drops from between $20 to $50. I would take a guess and say the 9800Pro that you are wanting to get will probably drop near the $20 price mark. So that would make it $197. I know $20 doesn't sound like much. But that could get you some better memory. An aftermarket HSF or a more reliable PSU.

Another choice is watching the NewEgg refurbs for a 9800Pro or a 9700Pro. I've seen the 9700 for around $170 and the 9800 for around $180. I'm currently using a 9600Pro from Sapphire that I got off the refurbs. Right now I'm running it with a modest OC of 452.25 Core and 351 (DDR 752) Memory. I know it has more in it. I just haven't had the time to test it out for higher clocks.

02-07-04, 09:47 AM	Thread Starter #1
nightmare3215 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: underneath the sky	my new amd computer Abit NF7-s V2 Barton 2500+ retail Radeon 9800 pro 128mb aspire x-dreamer w/included 350w turbolink psu Geil Value Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 w/heat spreaders How's that? All together it's gonna cost me $506, which should fit me quite nicely price wise considering shipping (I only have $519). Does this computer look all right, and do you think I might be able to get a few 100 mhz overclock on this thing? I realize the psu blows and the ram isn't exactly stunning, but what can I expect w/$519 ?
	QUOTE Thanks

02-07-04, 09:52 AM	#2
Top Hat Theater Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lost in Thought	Most 2500s will do 2GHz on default voltage so I'd say it's possible provided your RAM will allow it (which it should). What HSF are you using? ~THT
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02-07-04, 09:54 AM	Thread Starter #3
nightmare3215 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: underneath the sky	I've been thinking, I can wait a few more weeks, and get an antec lan boy with a fortron 400w psu, but is that worth the extra $86?
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02-07-04, 09:56 AM	Thread Starter #4
nightmare3215 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: underneath the sky	I'm gonna use the retail hsf but I can lap the hs if it makes a big difference, I'll be using as5.
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02-07-04, 10:06 AM	#6
Sharkman Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	You would be much better off getting an aftermarket HSF. The stock is only rated for well stock Once you start pushing your proc the stock HSF will have a very hard time dissapaiting the heat. You should also wait to get the 9800 until after the new cards come out. The prices will definatly drop at that time if not soon after. __________________ "Funny Movie Quotes" Demented Cartoon Movie: Zeeky Boogy Doog The Holy Grail: Tis but a Flesh Wound The History of the World Part 1: It's good to be the King Blues Brothers: Were on a mission from God Tommy Boy: When you get out of the car just do excatly what I do... BEES!!!!!! My Heatware
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02-07-04, 10:15 AM	Thread Starter #7
nightmare3215 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: underneath the sky	allright, thanks for the advice, maybe by then I'll have more $!!
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02-07-04, 12:56 PM	Thread Starter #8
nightmare3215 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: underneath the sky	I found an "ATI 9800 pro 128mb" for $217. Since you are telling me to wait, how much of a drop will we see when the new cards come out?
	QUOTE Thanks

02-07-04, 06:26 PM	#9
Sharkman Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Usually you can expect drops from between $20 to $50. I would take a guess and say the 9800Pro that you are wanting to get will probably drop near the $20 price mark. So that would make it $197. I know $20 doesn't sound like much. But that could get you some better memory. An aftermarket HSF or a more reliable PSU. Another choice is watching the NewEgg refurbs for a 9800Pro or a 9700Pro. I've seen the 9700 for around $170 and the 9800 for around $180. I'm currently using a 9600Pro from Sapphire that I got off the refurbs. Right now I'm running it with a modest OC of 452.25 Core and 351 (DDR 752) Memory. I know it has more in it. I just haven't had the time to test it out for higher clocks. __________________ "Funny Movie Quotes" Demented Cartoon Movie: Zeeky Boogy Doog The Holy Grail: Tis but a Flesh Wound The History of the World Part 1: It's good to be the King Blues Brothers: Were on a mission from God Tommy Boy: When you get out of the car just do excatly what I do... BEES!!!!!! My Heatware
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