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i can see it being that much faster then the FX line simply because if they did the core right unlike the FX - it could be that much faster then their current cards.

What has me is shader 3 or what ever - why worry about that if they could not even get 2.0 right!
 
If these rumours are true and the NV40 outguns the R420 I really would like to see if ATI would dedcide to offer low quality driver hacks or even cheat . This would be a good test of charcater .
 
Ati lowered image quality (very obvious) on Quake to make their product look competitive on the most-used 3d benchmark.
 
Not true it was an optimisation ( here that optimisation :) ) which was present on all the other Radeons before it and affected only 5 to 7 textures in 2 to 3 maps when using the 8500 only ! When this bug was 'exposed' there was a fixed driver released within 2 weeks which had 100% of the performance , the perfect image quality and importantly better quality than all competing soloutions other than maybe Matrox ( Matrox was just too slow anyway ) .

The only place ATI could have been faulted is where an executive publically said that they had no game-specific optimisations which was clearly a lie or ignorance .And also their poor PR control of the issue , which to this day allows many people online to still mention the Q3 issue in order to excuse the behaviour of some other company .
 
^^^ but at least they got a frix out and unlike NVIDIA rand and denied it all!

:D

we know companeis cheta - it is how they deal with the cheating once caught that is the conern for me - ATI dealt with it - NVIDIA did not.
 
Cowboy X said:
Not true it was an optimisation ( here that optimisation :) ) which was present on all the other Radeons before it and affected only 5 to 7 textures in 2 to 3 maps when using the 8500 only ! When this bug was 'exposed' there was a fixed driver released within 2 weeks which had 100% of the performance , the perfect image quality and importantly better quality than all competing soloutions other than maybe Matrox ( Matrox was just too slow anyway ) .

The only place ATI could have been faulted is where an executive publically said that they had no game-specific optimisations which was clearly a lie or ignorance .And also their poor PR control of the issue , which to this day allows many people online to still mention the Q3 issue in order to excuse the behaviour of some other company .

Not to mention, subsequent driver releases improved perfomance even more, with NO IQ degradation....

It is odd that someone thinks a company would purposly lower IQ while keeping speed the same and claim "CHEATERS!!!" when it's obvious it was a bug in the R8500's architecture...
 
^^^^ usually because the person is a fan boy and does not want to admit their choosen company is doing them wrong.
 
buahhaha

scrap a line !!


like is aid - WHY worry about shader 3.0 when u can't even get 2.0 right!!!


by scarpping this line - if true - they are going to be behind again and liekly by the time they get the 45 line out ATI will already have something else in the works and ready to release around that same time to further keep nvidia down picking up the scraps :D
 
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