Ok yesterday, I had time to take it apart, re-did my tubing, but I am still getting high temps, not as high as before, but still high. I have the SOHO Cheiftec Full tower. I took the two drive rails out, and mounted the rad there. Now with the radiator open air, with the same fans in the same postion, I got good temps. Inside the case I can feel about the same air is comming off the back fans on the rad(I run a push pull setup 4 fans total) I think my problems lies wih the block itsself. I have the Dtek WW and I think the Y adater for the two outlet barbs are giving the block un-even contact with the cpu. I was load around 33-35C with the setup out side, now after re-do, load is around 36-38C(as of an hour before I left for school) Cpu is as follows. Moblie 2400@ 2500MHZ 1.85Volts. Cse temps were in the 25-27C range. Is this normal, or is the block not making good contact. The block is not even warm to touch. I will post a pic when I get a chance latter today.