Copopermine or Not

It_The_Cow · 06-29-01, 09:17 PM

I have a Pentium III 750 mhx processor, but I'm not sure if it's a coppermine. According to a site I went to a while ago, it was a CuMine based on the numbers on it, but on the box, it isn't mentioned anywhere. Which one should I trust

WillysNut · 06-29-01, 09:24 PM

I believe you do in fact have one of the "early" coppermine chips. See the attached article:

http://www.baznet.freeserve.co.uk/P3-750-800.htm

jmsandrsn · 06-29-01, 09:30 PM

All PIII 750's will be coppermines...no exceptions. The version that a processor is(ie. coppermine, katmai, tualatin) is mostly just looked upon by industry proffesionals or hardware enthusiasts. Intel really doesn't put this lable on the product. You have to take the product they give you, look at the codes, and then check the spec sheets to know what version you have. Or, in a situation like this, all PIII's(desktops only) between 650 MHZ and 1 GHZ are going to be coppermines. At the upper and lower ends of this range, there may be other versions(katmai on the lower end and tualatin on the high end if they ever release them).

Mr B · 06-29-01, 10:22 PM

There were some P/// 600 Coppermines as well, thought I call mine a 954EB now. ???

Mr B

Sohryu Asuka Langley · 06-30-01, 01:30 AM

lol!

most deaf · 07-03-01, 12:04 PM

cu mine

Newbie_Doo · 07-03-01, 06:29 PM

If I recall, the first Coppermine released was a PIII550E.

[OC]_SR20DE · 07-04-01, 06:15 AM

awww numbers keep going down! hahaha =)>

SP · 07-05-01, 01:50 AM

There were 550Mhz coppermines as well as 600Mhz coppermines. However, there were also 550Mhz and 600Mhz Katmais. Anyway, any PIII 650Mhz or higher is bound to be a coppermine. Also, contrary to what a few people seem to think they made slot1 coppermines as well as FCPGA. In fact I believe it was only a month or so ago they quit making slot1 chips.

Anyway, if anyone had a slot 1 550 or 600 and they aren't sure which it is, the way to tell is by the Voltage and level 2 cache. The Katmais ran at 2.0v whereas coppermines at this speed ran at either 1.65v or 1.7v depending on stepping. The Katmais also had 512K level 2 cache compared to 256K for the coppermine. Futhermore if you physically examine a Katmai chip you'll see there are 2 chips located on the board off to the side of the cpu. These were the cache ram chips. On a coppermine the cache ram is integrated into the cpu itself and these 2 chips aren't present. of course all Katmai processors were slot 1. So, any FCPGA 550Mhz or 600Mhz PIII would be a coppermine.

funnyperson1 · 07-05-01, 04:40 PM

i have a coppermine 600E Slot 1, its running at 780, but the temperature sensor on my chip is totally wack....it says its 70 degrees c, but im able to touch the the heatsink, (my estimate is about room temperture)...why is it so high?

Pinky · 07-06-01, 02:12 PM

If it's 667 P3 or higher, then it's coppermine. No exceptions (until you get to the Tulatins of course).

06-29-01, 09:17 PM	Thread Starter #1
It_The_Cow Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Indiana	Copopermine or Not I have a Pentium III 750 mhx processor, but I'm not sure if it's a coppermine. According to a site I went to a while ago, it was a CuMine based on the numbers on it, but on the box, it isn't mentioned anywhere. Which one should I trust
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06-29-01, 09:24 PM	#2
WillysNut Senior Jeep Nut Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NY, USA	I believe you do in fact have one of the "early" coppermine chips. See the attached article: http://www.baznet.freeserve.co.uk/P3-750-800.htm __________________ FOLDING@HOME - Do your part, Join the team and help science Click here for more info
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06-29-01, 09:30 PM	#3
jmsandrsn Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Xenia OH	All PIII 750's will be coppermines...no exceptions. The version that a processor is(ie. coppermine, katmai, tualatin) is mostly just looked upon by industry proffesionals or hardware enthusiasts. Intel really doesn't put this lable on the product. You have to take the product they give you, look at the codes, and then check the spec sheets to know what version you have. Or, in a situation like this, all PIII's(desktops only) between 650 MHZ and 1 GHZ are going to be coppermines. At the upper and lower ends of this range, there may be other versions(katmai on the lower end and tualatin on the high end if they ever release them).
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06-29-01, 10:22 PM	#4
Mr B Senior Admin Emeritus Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Boston Bruins Nation	There were some P/// 600 Coppermines as well, thought I call mine a 954EB now. ??? Mr B __________________ Got that Gibson Les Paul ('92 Studio), still listening to a lot of Led Zeppelin. =P
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06-30-01, 01:30 AM	#5
Sohryu Asuka Langley Member Join Date: Mar 2001	lol!
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07-03-01, 12:04 PM	#6
most deaf Member Join Date: Mar 2001	cu mine
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07-03-01, 06:29 PM	#7
Newbie_Doo Admin Parent Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Stafford, Virginia USA	If I recall, the first Coppermine released was a PIII550E. __________________ "Remember, the Aperture Science 'Bring your daughter to work' day is the perfect time to have her tested." Welcome to my sandbox. Sandbox Rules: 1) Play nicely. 2) Don't throw sand. 3) Share your toys. 4) Go inside to use the potty. newbius.blogspot.com
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07-04-01, 06:15 AM	#8
[OC]_SR20DE Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ummm..	awww numbers keep going down! hahaha =)>
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07-05-01, 01:50 AM	#9
SP Member Join Date: Dec 2000	There were 550Mhz coppermines as well as 600Mhz coppermines. However, there were also 550Mhz and 600Mhz Katmais. Anyway, any PIII 650Mhz or higher is bound to be a coppermine. Also, contrary to what a few people seem to think they made slot1 coppermines as well as FCPGA. In fact I believe it was only a month or so ago they quit making slot1 chips. Anyway, if anyone had a slot 1 550 or 600 and they aren't sure which it is, the way to tell is by the Voltage and level 2 cache. The Katmais ran at 2.0v whereas coppermines at this speed ran at either 1.65v or 1.7v depending on stepping. The Katmais also had 512K level 2 cache compared to 256K for the coppermine. Futhermore if you physically examine a Katmai chip you'll see there are 2 chips located on the board off to the side of the cpu. These were the cache ram chips. On a coppermine the cache ram is integrated into the cpu itself and these 2 chips aren't present. of course all Katmai processors were slot 1. So, any FCPGA 550Mhz or 600Mhz PIII would be a coppermine.
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07-05-01, 04:40 PM	#10
funnyperson1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Northern VA	i have a coppermine 600E Slot 1, its running at 780, but the temperature sensor on my chip is totally wack....it says its 70 degrees c, but im able to touch the the heatsink, (my estimate is about room temperture)...why is it so high?
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07-06-01, 02:12 PM	#11
Pinky Disabled Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Narf City, USA	If it's 667 P3 or higher, then it's coppermine. No exceptions (until you get to the Tulatins of course).
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