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Old 03-18-04, 03:22 PM Thread Starter   #1
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Angry smokin hot 9800pro w/vga silencer pls help


OK, 2 days ago, I did a atitool and it came up with 403/370 stable. I ran each test till it said it was stable for over 15 min. That was with stock cooling with the addition of AS 3 and Digidoc 5+ sensor on the outside of the heatsink towards the AGP slot reaing 43/44* C. That night, I changed to a VGA Silencer. Now, I can't even start ati tool without artifacts. The digidoc sensor is placed on the back of the fin's of the silencer, it reads 59+*C depending how long I show 3D view in ati tool. Also, whaen I start up ATI tool, I get this error every time.

Anyone have advice? Is my card dead? Is it possible to tighten up the Silencer to much witht he stock mount's? I tightened according to the direction's, Thought it was pretty tight, then the little metal bar snapped. They said in instuctions that it would bend, not break. I built another bar at work, I have since tried it with minimum pressure and clamped tightly, it makes no difference

PS, I just ran both core and mem in ATI Tool. I shut them off when they reached 300 each. It can't even do a 300/300 now. What do I do???????
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Old 03-18-04, 04:15 PM   #2
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hmm than format your PC i would do that
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hmm than format your PC i would do that
That test dosnt mean a damn thing. Mine does the same thing with the VGA silencer. F*it. My raddie runs fine.

I'd go purely by artrifracting in things like games and 3dmark.

My max for continous use is 430mhz / 321mhz. That blasted test fuggers up my monitor and reboots meh PC.

IMHO ignore it

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Old 03-18-04, 04:23 PM   #4
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sounds to me like you should reseat the hs. i think that the vga silencer is not making good contact eith the core.

i dont think that you busted your card by "overtightening" the hs. afterall, i put a maze i on my tnt2 using a stock 96p hs. after all was tight the tnt2 looked like it had just withstood an earthquake (bent, buckled, and about to snap) but still ran 100% and does so to this day
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sounds to me like you should reseat the hs. i think that the vga silencer is not making good contact eith the core.
Same problem, reseating it dosnt help. But I know my card is fine. If it runs ur games then its ok.

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Old 03-18-04, 04:34 PM Thread Starter   #6
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Have reseated it liek 5 time's. With AS ceramique, AS 3 Stock paste. I have lapped the Silencer. It is totally smooth. I am now getting the teltale red rippiing and artifact's as I write this. I have had another 9800Pro that overheated because I forgot to plug the fan on the stock cooler. Not with this one tho, it has been pluged in, and is working.
BTW, I can not hold my finger on the back(the alum facing the vid card, back of fin's) of the silencer. It is now that hot. Well, I will get my stock sink back from work tonight, a bud's using it for hole template to make a waterblock for his.

Can you guys touch your silencer? or is it to hot?
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Old 03-18-04, 07:40 PM   #7
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Mine runs cool . Did you have your silencer heat sink grounded with the clip they included .
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Old 03-18-04, 07:43 PM   #8
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Yea mine gets hot. Not like hot....but like...hmmmm sorta hot.

It dosnt burn my fingers at alll, but its very definatly hot. My guess is in the 50-55c* range.

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Old 03-18-04, 09:31 PM   #9
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If the VGA Silencer is getting hot, then that means it's got good contact with the core, and it's doing its job.

So, the problem is that it's not getting rid of the heat.

I would make sure that the fan is on high, and that it's working correctly.
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Old 03-18-04, 11:43 PM   #10
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Have you removed the shim? That might be keeping the VGA Silencer from making good contact.
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Old 03-19-04, 12:43 AM Thread Starter   #11
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Yes, shim is removed, fan is on high. Getting artifacs on desktop now. guess it is my card going bad. Man, I just got this one too.
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Old 03-19-04, 03:09 AM   #12
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Yes, shim is removed, fan is on high. Getting artifacs on desktop now. guess it is my card going bad. Man, I just got this one too.
Atitool = bad!

I think someone on Rage3d blew his card too by running atitool:

http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.p...hlight=atitool

I think you just burnt another card... But the only difference between him and you is... He didn't overclock.

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Old 03-19-04, 09:45 AM Thread Starter   #13
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But the only difference between him and you is... He didn't overclock.
That's the thing, I haven't overclocked it yet. I just let ATI Tool find the max core and mem. Then I shut comp off with default settings, and went to work. When I came home, rebooted, voila, al this heat and artifact problem's.

Just this morning, when I turned comp on, in 6 min my card went from 21c to 53c just cheching post's on this board. That's with the VGA Silencer.

If it is ATITool's fault, I dunno what to do then.....
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Old 03-19-04, 11:02 AM   #14
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I see your 2800 is at 2288. Is it unlocked? What is your fsb? I had similar problems. At higher fsb your agp/pci frequency also rises. So you might have to change the divider or lock your agp if you can. I was at the exact same speed as you and had nothing but trouble till i returned the fsb to normal. Hope this helps.
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Old 03-19-04, 03:23 PM Thread Starter   #15
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I allready thought about that Hemidude, but I am at 181FSB with 5x devider. I have allways ran that. Nothing there has changed. Acctually, I am 1Mhz less on FSB with more devider than I used to run. I used to run 16FSB over with a 4X devider with my AThlon 1333 and this card, now 15MHZ over and 5x devider. Acctually 3MHZ AGP over instead of 4
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Old 03-19-04, 04:03 PM   #16
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Thought it was pretty tight, then the little metal bar snapped.
Doesn't anyone else think this might be the at or near the root of the problem. I have mounted and remounted a Silencer numerous times. I have tried and tried and I cannot even begin to imagine how if you were mounting this right, you could break the metal bar. In the normal position it will not have to bend much over 1/4" until it contacts the rubber spacers. There is no way it would "break" under those circumstances.
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21c to 53c just cheching post's on this board. That's with the VGA Silencer.
^^ Thats normal. My raddie breaks 56c* on load with my diode. Once again, screw that stupid tool. Do it the right way and check for artifracts in gamez.

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Mine ran forever at that configuration too, then all of a sudden nothing but problems. Maybe you should try it and see if it makes a difference? By the way I managed to break both of my silencers metal brackets. Doh! Well i hope you get it fixed.
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Old 03-19-04, 04:59 PM   #19
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I caught what Pntgrd caught...and that is the problem...since they stated
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I built another bar at work, I have since tried it with minimum pressure and clamped tightly, it makes no difference
Odds are since they made a new bar...this new mod is not allowing the GPU and heatsink to seat correctly which in turn is causing it to overheat even when underclocked...
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Old 03-19-04, 05:32 PM Thread Starter   #20
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Doesn't anyone else think this might be the at or near the root of the problem. I have mounted and remounted a Silencer numerous times. I have tried and tried and I cannot even begin to imagine how if you were mounting this right, you could break the metal bar. In the normal position it will not have to bend much over 1/4" until it contacts the rubber spacers. There is no way it would "break" under those circumstances.
That's the thing Pntgrd, 1/4 inch is what mione was away, and it broke. I will take some pics next week, the broken piece is at work right now.

As far as the ATItool, whell, whatever it says that's no matter, but, when I can't hold my finger on the back of the Silencer, and I have artifacts on my desktop, let alone in a game. I just want to make sure it's not the silencer that caused it.
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