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Help the poor newbie!
- Thread starter Mafiah
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http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1550755,00.asp
See the graphs and you'll find the 3200 has excellent benchmarks.
OEM chips not the best way to go because for a few bucks more with a "bundled-retail" version AMD CPU you get the HS, fan and three year warranty. So put their HS and fan on the shelf and use after market cooler.
"I want a stable clock @ 2.4 - 2.6"
You'll need a good, OC'ing friendly MB, high quality PC3200 RAM, a good CPU cooler and PSU that delivers what it says it will.
Mafiah, I seriously doubt you'll notice *that* much difference in a 3200 running normal clock 2.2GHz or OC'd 2.4GHz because the diffrence in speed only amounts to .2 milla seconds.
1000MHz = 1.0GHz
A clip from techtv.com:
"Clock Speed -- The speed at which a CPU executes instructions. Clock speed is measured in megahertz. One MHz (megahertz) equals one million cycles a second. 200 MHz equals 200 million cycles a second. 1000 MHz is the same as 1 GHz (gigahertz). Clock speed is to a computer as horse power is to the engine of car."
Just offering food for thought, so enjoy your new rig and jam on it!
OldBird
See the graphs and you'll find the 3200 has excellent benchmarks.
OEM chips not the best way to go because for a few bucks more with a "bundled-retail" version AMD CPU you get the HS, fan and three year warranty. So put their HS and fan on the shelf and use after market cooler.
"I want a stable clock @ 2.4 - 2.6"
You'll need a good, OC'ing friendly MB, high quality PC3200 RAM, a good CPU cooler and PSU that delivers what it says it will.
Mafiah, I seriously doubt you'll notice *that* much difference in a 3200 running normal clock 2.2GHz or OC'd 2.4GHz because the diffrence in speed only amounts to .2 milla seconds.
1000MHz = 1.0GHz
A clip from techtv.com:
"Clock Speed -- The speed at which a CPU executes instructions. Clock speed is measured in megahertz. One MHz (megahertz) equals one million cycles a second. 200 MHz equals 200 million cycles a second. 1000 MHz is the same as 1 GHz (gigahertz). Clock speed is to a computer as horse power is to the engine of car."
Just offering food for thought, so enjoy your new rig and jam on it!
OldBirdIf that's the way you want to go, the 3200 should flick your Bic.
I kept trying to give you a link for tests on AMD's bundled coolers but it wouldn't paste in here right.
Do this for me please; Got to www.tomshardware.com, click Search Articles and type this in the search engine; How Good Are AMD's Bundled Coolers For The Athlon XP
The article should come up on top and will remove any doubts you have about the AMD bundled cooler HS and fan.
So, what MB and what kind of RAM did you decide on because
if we gonna' do this thing then lets do it right the first time . . . !
And what PSU - power supply unit?
I kept trying to give you a link for tests on AMD's bundled coolers but it wouldn't paste in here right.
Do this for me please; Got to www.tomshardware.com, click Search Articles and type this in the search engine; How Good Are AMD's Bundled Coolers For The Athlon XP
The article should come up on top and will remove any doubts you have about the AMD bundled cooler HS and fan.
So, what MB and what kind of RAM did you decide on because
if we gonna' do this thing then lets do it right the first time . . . !
And what PSU - power supply unit?
Hate to throw so much at you at one time, but all things you need to know, so read and educate yourself on PSU's. The article is somewhat lengthy but read every word and from here on you'll have good comprehension of how important it is to use a good, high quality PSU. http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20040122/index.html
Awhile back I read an article at PCMAG saying when folks build a new rig the most overlooked component is the PSU. Think about it, . . . . the PSU is what makes it all happen. I realize you're a newbie here, but Larval is our resident PSU expert and he will bear out what I told you.
I use the Fortron 350W and never had a PSU problem. Fourth one from the top on this link: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...tory=1919&catalog=58&DEPA=0&sortby=14&order=1
Another thing some folks get into is PSU overkill using a 500W PSU they don't need. All a matter of preference so please read Tom's article and get PSU hip.
OH! By the way, pleasure to make your acquaintance and WELCOME TO THE OC'ers FORUM! OldBird
Awhile back I read an article at PCMAG saying when folks build a new rig the most overlooked component is the PSU. Think about it, . . . . the PSU is what makes it all happen. I realize you're a newbie here, but Larval is our resident PSU expert and he will bear out what I told you.
I use the Fortron 350W and never had a PSU problem. Fourth one from the top on this link: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...tory=1919&catalog=58&DEPA=0&sortby=14&order=1
Another thing some folks get into is PSU overkill using a 500W PSU they don't need. All a matter of preference so please read Tom's article and get PSU hip.
OH! By the way, pleasure to make your acquaintance and WELCOME TO THE OC'ers FORUM! OldBird
- Thread Starter
- #8
Thanks for all the help / info!
Im getting the:
Antec TruePower 430W PSU
I had it before on my old rig (XP1700) and i think i will stick with it, as it gave me no problems.
And ill be investing in the:
AMD Athlon "Mobile" XP3000-M 333FSB (Socket A) CPU
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe nForce2
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200LLPT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2
or
GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3500 Golden Dragon CAS2.5
Im getting the:
Antec TruePower 430W PSU
I had it before on my old rig (XP1700) and i think i will stick with it, as it gave me no problems.
And ill be investing in the:
AMD Athlon "Mobile" XP3000-M 333FSB (Socket A) CPU
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe nForce2
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200LLPT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2
or
GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3500 Golden Dragon CAS2.5
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I would strongly recommend a Mobile 2500+ instead of the 3K+, as the mobile will be unlocked and overclock better.
I also suggest you get the Abit NF7-S or DFI Lanparty II motherboard, as these have somewhat better overclocking features and are better for FSB overclocking, and can POST with any multiplier you chose (as long as the chip unlocked)
I also suggest you get the Abit NF7-S or DFI Lanparty II motherboard, as these have somewhat better overclocking features and are better for FSB overclocking, and can POST with any multiplier you chose (as long as the chip unlocked)
- Thread Starter
- #10
Um you mean the:
DFI LanParty NFII Ultra-B
and
Abit NF7-S v2.0 nForce2?
But Isn't the
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe nForce2
revised 2.0 edition?
or are they all revised 2.0?
Cheers.
Edit: You said the 2500+ - M? why not the "Mobile" XP3000-M 333FSB ?
DFI LanParty NFII Ultra-B
and
Abit NF7-S v2.0 nForce2?
But Isn't the
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe nForce2
revised 2.0 edition?
or are they all revised 2.0?
Cheers.
Edit: You said the 2500+ - M? why not the "Mobile" XP3000-M 333FSB ?
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The are basically all 2nd revision, but still the Abit and DFI are more flexible on the vcore, and have much better FSB overclock potential.
There are no Mobile 2800+ or 3000+, if anything they are the Athlon64 mobiles, and these are totally different chips. The fastest mobile AthlonXP out right now is the XP2600+
There are no Mobile 2800+ or 3000+, if anything they are the Athlon64 mobiles, and these are totally different chips. The fastest mobile AthlonXP out right now is the XP2600+
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Yeah, if you buy a 3000 or 3200 XP, you're gonna be spending a lot of extra money for probably no performance gain, since their multipliers will be locked, more than likely. Get one of the XP Mobiles (2400, 2500, or 2600 ... similar results are being seen with a lot of them, and the cost difference between them all is pretty negligible) so the multi will be unlocked, and get one of the two mobos The Coolest suggested. The NF7-S is a tried and true trooper ... the lanparty is nice from what I hear, too, but you might have to do some more fiddling with it to get the results you want until they get all their issues iron out.
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The Coolest said:
Um...what's this then?
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/AMD_Athlon_XP__Mobile_.html
AMD Athlon "Mobile" XP3000-M 333FSB (Socket A) CPU
AMD Athlon "Mobile" XP2800-M Barton 266FSB (Socket A) CPU
333 FSB VS 266 FSB? Ill still go with the 3000-M
Cheers.
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Mafiah said:
im thinking thats either a british only thing (unlikely...)
or... the 3000 is very soon to come, if not already available.
if you have that money to spend, and you are willing to spend it, i would say go for the 3000... you can be our guinea pig for the 3000m
on the motherboard issue, i would say go with the DFI. I love my Asus, and if I had to do it over, I would still pick the Asus, but for overclocking, the DFI is going to be better. I have heard flaky things about the Abit recently, hence the reason for reccommending the DFI
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9488,00.html
Hate to bust our bubble but the new FX-53 is out and woo-hoo! But for $769. bucks, it better be woo-hoo, then some . . . .
Mafiah, you can do a lot of research on your own by going to www.amd.com and click products and read the CPU specs and answer most of your questions. When you see a good website bookmark it (favorites) then you will have it as a future reference.
Another good website for AMD's is http://www.amdmb.com/index.php
Whole lot of good websites where you can punch the CPU model in the search engine and read reviews.
http://www.aceshardware.com/#65000425
Do this; go to Google.com and punch in amd processor reviews and you will get gosh know how many hits: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=amd+processor+reviews
May I suggest you get on line and do a lot of reading and research on your own and educate yourself to the pros, cons and specs of the various CPU's. Get a piece of paper and write down the specs for each so you can eye-ball compare them side by side. When making a decision commiting heaps of new data to brain memory is not the best way and when you get the info side-by-side so you can eye-ball it then you get a good grasp on facts and figures. That's why companies use charts so they can put the eye-ball on them and get a better perspective of "what it is."
http://www.motherboards.org/rank/AMD/total/motherboard-rank.html Click the upside down triangles to see how each ranks in that category. They have a search engine so if you find a MB and want info use the search engine. www.tomshardware.com is another excellent resource.
Hate to bust our bubble but the new FX-53 is out and woo-hoo! But for $769. bucks, it better be woo-hoo, then some . . . .
Mafiah, you can do a lot of research on your own by going to www.amd.com and click products and read the CPU specs and answer most of your questions. When you see a good website bookmark it (favorites) then you will have it as a future reference.
Another good website for AMD's is http://www.amdmb.com/index.php
Whole lot of good websites where you can punch the CPU model in the search engine and read reviews.
http://www.aceshardware.com/#65000425
Do this; go to Google.com and punch in amd processor reviews and you will get gosh know how many hits: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=amd+processor+reviews
May I suggest you get on line and do a lot of reading and research on your own and educate yourself to the pros, cons and specs of the various CPU's. Get a piece of paper and write down the specs for each so you can eye-ball compare them side by side. When making a decision commiting heaps of new data to brain memory is not the best way and when you get the info side-by-side so you can eye-ball it then you get a good grasp on facts and figures. That's why companies use charts so they can put the eye-ball on them and get a better perspective of "what it is."
http://www.motherboards.org/rank/AMD/total/motherboard-rank.html Click the upside down triangles to see how each ranks in that category. They have a search engine so if you find a MB and want info use the search engine. www.tomshardware.com is another excellent resource.
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