[ares350]

Pump-eheim 1260
already purchased, bought it used, or I wouldnt have spent that much and I know it puts out a bit more heat than it should. I intend to use a isolated bong loop which the 1260 will then power the shower.

just background on what will be pumping the water for now, as Im using a radiator setup in the summer, humidity is too high for bong.

CPU-white water. considering RBX though since I could easily use "nozzle 5" or whatever it is that works well with high flow. thoughts?

NB- Maze4. looks good, price is right, perhaps the best performance.

GPU- this is the sticking point, I cant decide.

fusion, swiftech, and maze4 are all in a dead heat. any reason why I should pick one over the others?

I want to order this stuff like now, cause it seems finding inventory on these is tough, dont want to end up with a whole system and no cooling.

[Korndog]

looks good, but if ur going to use 3 blocks, maybe u shouldn't use the restrictive nozzle..
for gpu block, the maze 4, i've heard, is pretty good. swiftech is also pretty good, and it might be a little less restrictive, i would go with that.
good luck

[ares350]

good point, hadnt really thought of that. so perhaps with 3 blocks, the white water is a better choice.

plus, with white water if I do do maze 4 on both GPU and NB, I could get the copper top white water addon and not have any corrosion issues anymore.

[Korndog]

yep, that would elminiate the need for antifreeze or waterwetter which would improve preformance.

[Voodoo Rufus]

You still might want to add a little of either just for organic crud, even if you have all copper.

[ares350]

just to check... on the maze4 GPU block. it is solid copper even though its not a plexiglass top right? and inside I assume its the same Maze 4 pattern as the CPU and NB blocks they have.

and second. whats with the pink? Id rather red or green, but no photos of green at all, and just alot of pink, is that "red"?

[DeViL_909]

Red or pink is water wetter. You can go to an auto store and look at some the antifreeze and coolant stuff they have. CHance are they will have a color you like. If not you can always use UV dye additive.

[ares350]

naw, I mean the maze4 GPU block shown on their site, its pink, like anodized pink. looks ummm... well I dont want pink.

also as I look more I question more.

MCW6000 vs white water, white water still winning? the 6000 is all copper too. kinda hurts that I was planning on 1/2" tubing and the 6002 isnt out yet.

also, the MCW20 for GPU, there was a test by overclockers that showd it having less resistance and better performance... am I reading that data wrong? I know its pretty tall. but I dont have any big use for my first 2 PCI slots anyway.

[Voodoo Rufus]

The MCW20 is for chipsets and the MCW50 is for GPUs.

There's no comparative info on the MCW6000 vs. Ww, but my bet's on the WW.

The MCW50 and Maze4GPU are on par with each other, so which one you should get is really up to you. You can choose the color of the top for the Maze4 GPU as well.

[felinusz]

The Maze 4 GPU block is not copper throughout, it has an anodized aluminum top. It's still a really nice block though, and I'm quite happy with mine . I've also used the Swiftech MCW-50, and was pleased with it too - I only switched to a Maze 4-1 so that I could use a 172W Peltier on my card, with a proper coldplate.

To use the MCW-50 with 1/2" ID tubing you need to buy special barbed tubing inserts, but I would venture to say it's probably less restrictive than the Maze 4 (open them both up, and take a good look at the design). Both have Anodized Aluminum tops.

Have you considered using the Silverprop GPU block? It has a brass upper, and is the nicest looking GPU block on the market to boot . Unfortunately, I don't know where you can order one in North America, all the retailers seem to be sold out of the HL (the taller block that lets you use proper RAMsinks).

I guess in the end the choice is up to you. Get whichever you think will be best in your system, or even whichever one you can get for the lowest price.

Be sure to post pictures of your circuit when it's done!

[ares350]

bah! felinusz that will go down as the most informative post to ever be so useless!

my dream of a all copper system has been crushed, unless I go with silverprop, (cause brass and copper are ok???) or no. but even so the silverprop probably isnt available.

not the END of the world I suppose since the video card doesnt have to be WCed to run unlike the CPU, gotta get the CPU block, very important.

ok... so now...

we have

CPU still as the white water eventually with copper top.

NB is maze4.

and GPU is still up for grabs! leaning towards the silverprop if it doesnt cause corrosion. or perhaps the maze4 or mcw50. as I consider it though, the swifttech doesnt fit my needs really at all... its not copper, its high restriction, and its just maybe as good at cooling. so alright, we narrowed it down to maze4 and silverprop.

still to be answered, anyone know what the maze4 GPU block looks like in red or green.

to settle the confusion, this is what Im talking about, obviously no green in the photo, and thats pink to me, not red.

[pauldenton]

Originally posted by felinusz
The Maze 4 GPU block is not copper throughout, it has an anodized aluminum top. It's still a really nice block though, and I'm quite happy with mine . I've also used the Swiftech MCW-50, and was pleased with it too - I only switched to a Maze 4-1 so that I could use a 172W Peltier on my card, with a proper coldplate.

To use the MCW-50 with 1/2" ID tubing you need to buy special barbed tubing inserts, but I would venture to say it's probably less restrictive than the Maze 4 (open them both up, and take a good look at the design). Both have Anodized Aluminum tops.

according to joe's reviews a 1/2" maze4 gpu has the same resistance as a 3/8" swiftech....
http://www.overclockers.com/articles1012/
http://www.overclockers.com/articles977/

Originally posted by felinusz
Have you considered using the Silverprop GPU block? It has a brass upper, and is the nicest looking GPU block on the market to boot . Unfortunately, I don't know where you can order one in North America, all the retailers seem to be sold out of the HL (the taller block that lets you use proper RAMsinks).

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eta is today here....
http://www.criticool.com/2videoblocks.html

i just scored one second hand, and it's a lovely looking block....

[ares350]

it is nice looking, but does it perform better/have lower resistance? I dont mind the 6$, and Ill grab it right now and wait for it to arrive if need be. just wanna get whichever of the 2 is better...

how does bronze compare to aluminum in that application?

[felinusz]

I don't think they do it in green, although I could well be wrong. I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the Maze 4 GPU block only comes in Red (Pink), Black, and Blue. I'm pretty sure a version with a chromed upper is available on request as well, I saw pictures of such a block a while back. It might even be a silver upper, although that would be unforgiveably stupid.

The Silverprop upper is Brass, exactly like most hose barbs .

If I were you, and had a choice of any of the three GPU blocks, for straight up watercooling without a peltier, I would get the Silverprop block. It looks the nicest, is the only one with a Brass top, and has a superb internal design, in my opinion the best for straight GPU watercooling of the three.

You will want to use different mounting hardware if you decide on the Silverprop block though. It comes with wimpy push pins which are, in my opinion, thoroughly inadequate for holding a waterblock upside down onto your graphics card . Too bad such a nice block comes with such awful stock mounting hardware.

Are you dead-set on watercoling your motherboard chipset? You might want to read through some opinions voiced on the issue in the Chipset watercooling poll. After actually doing it myself, I don't think I'll ever watercool a motherboard chipset again.

[ares350]

I dont plan on peltier, not this go around anyway. more cost than I can afford, perhaps next time with more experience, and more moolah.

you say different mounting hardware, any particular source for such stuff, are we talking custom mounting hardware from homedepot or lowes, please explain.

Im not dead set on anything at this time. well except the stuff Ive already bought which in this particular area is just the pump and radiator. Im not even set on the tubing or additives.

planned on the northbridge just because... well I assume it helps with overclocking atleast a little, it looks cool(and come on, that IS somewhat of a factor), and lastly I felt I have head to spare with 12feet and 600+gph. so it was more of a why not than a why.

I understand routing can be a nightmare, but Im "planning" on the thinner 1/2" ID tygon with the swiftech coil sleeving to prevent kinking. I hadnt read any other drawbacks but I havent really looked either.

[ares350]

I bought the cpu block, went with the silverprop.

now Im realizing finding a white water is like finding WMD's. owell, dtek says they were gonna be in on the 23rd, kinda passed that, and cooltechnica is all out too. love to get the NB block(it looks good ) and WW at CT to save on shipping, but they dont have the maze 4 yet. owell.

[felinusz]

I understand routing can be a nightmare, but Im "planning" on the thinner 1/2" ID tygon with the swiftech coil sleeving to prevent kinking. I hadnt read any other drawbacks but I havent really looked either.

Good choice . I'm using thin walled (1/16" wall) Clearflex60 with the Swiftech sleeving stuff in my GPU loop right now, and it's signifigantly more flexible and easily routable than thick walled Clearflex60 is.

It also glows, and looks cool, which does matter

Let us know how the Silverprop CPU block works out, which model did you get? I haven't heard much in the way of user-feedback on them, so it should be interesting to see how it does fo you. Apparantly they're quite popular in Australia.

[ares350]

I mis typed, I meant GPU, Im still hopeful on getting a white water if I can ever find one for sale.

will report back on the GPU block though and how it works.

I seem to have chosen the worst possible time to be trying to build, everything is being updated right now. so I dont want to buy the cheap tubing cause I wont have the coiling right away, they say "soon" on the 5/8" coiling, which I feel like I may as well wait for.

gonna have the whole PC, and water blocks for NB and GPU but be lacking tubing and a CPU block. these are... kinda important things.