Nvidia is now in the lead yet once again in speed!

OBLIVIONLORD · 05-01-04, 05:30 AM

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15641

Im loving this. If it wasnt for competition then we would probably stuck witha lousy 400mhz crappy clock speed

I just hope they keep battling it out to see who is going to be faster then who and actually hit the 600mhz mark without the need of ocing the video card.

ninthebin · 05-01-04, 06:24 AM

if this is true, afaik this still leave nvidia shouting about what its doing and laying all its cards on the table whilst ATI can still wait for their oppurtune moment.

The inquirer writers just like the sound of their own keyboards tapping...leave it till the the X800 XT and 6800 Ultra actual retail samples are about then things will be a bit more definite

snvpa · 05-01-04, 06:47 AM

If this speed race is true I see lots of cards dying due to poor case ventilation and improper cooling solutions. I'm sure they can go fater still but at what cost.

TruckyJ · 05-01-04, 06:59 AM

I'll believe it when I see the retail cards tested extensively tested against one another...until then....

mrgreenjeans · 05-01-04, 07:00 AM

Yeah, nVidia's won on paper, but I still wanna see the cards on the market. Just like HL2's an awesome game...but where is it?I've been waiting to upgrade and am drooling over a 6800 w/512m on board, but I want to see the reviews of an actual production model.
And yes, I agree, competition keeps the market healthy and leads to innovations. I'd love to crank up FarCry turned all the way up at 1600 x 1200.

conscript · 05-01-04, 08:01 AM

great...so they send out a cooler card where the fan is acceptable. The they overclock their own cards and put the 5700 fan on it...

Overclocker550 · 05-01-04, 03:15 PM

if nvidia overclocks their own cards, then the end user wont be able to oc them then.

L337 M33P · 05-01-04, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by Overclocker550
if nvidia overclocks their own cards, then the end user wont be able to oc them then.

Why not? Overdrive function on ATi's XT series automatically overclocks the card, so is there anything stopping the end user OCing manually? No.

And don't some MSI-made NV cards offer dynamic overclocking?

snyper1982 · 05-01-04, 03:29 PM

i think he is meaning MAXIMUM performance form that core.

Gregory_WE · 05-01-04, 04:44 PM

Yeah, that's true.

Take my Ti4600 for example.

It's stock core speed is 300MHz. If, say, they had decided that for performance reasons they wished to bump it up to 315-320, then that would be just fine, but I personally wouldn't be able to OC it much more, so if you are an overclocker, your gains would be decreased.

stratcatprowlin · 05-01-04, 05:06 PM

Man if I had this 6800 card,I would not oc at all.

For that much money I want it to last as long as possible.

Plus with the performance out of the box I wouldnt have to!

Cowboy X · 05-01-04, 05:46 PM

I Pretty much expected this for a while now . This is why they recommend a 480W powersupply , 2 molex connectors , a speaker to warn of low power and 2 slots . None of those things are neccessary at 400 Mhz . But some questions will have to be asked :

1/ what will happen to their yeilds ? In other words how many 'ultra' cards will actually make it into computers other than those of reviewers ?

2/ Will a 480W powersupply really be enough ?

3/ How will the thus far acceptable sound levels go when the extra speed is dialed in .

4/ What will the current draw and heat-output look like with the extra speed .

5/ Will pricing remain the same ?

baqai · 05-01-04, 05:51 PM

many things are said when ever there is something new being introduced if i am not wrong Voodoo 5500 was the first ever video card with a molex connector and there were lot of flames on using the molex at that time, but what happened we eventually got used to using molex connectors with video cards, so lets see how we adopt to this new change being introduced by nvidia

as for performance is concerned only time will tell when R420 is introduced

TruckyJ · 05-02-04, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by stratcatprowlin
Man if I had this 6800 card,I would not oc at all.

For that much money I want it to last as long as possible.

Plus with the performance out of the box I wouldnt have to!

If I had one, I would overclock as soon as possible. For one, I just overclock my stuff on principle alone. Two, if it can run faster, why not? Three, tinkering with stuff is cool.

Great performance out of the box? Always desirable. However, great performance out of the box + overclockability = sweet euphoria.

OBLIVIONLORD · 05-03-04, 05:25 AM

Ok i take it back about Nvidia being in the lead. All they are going to do is up the clock speed a lousy 50mhz and call it the ultra "extreme", What a bunch of crap. Ati is 525mhz core with just 1 molex connector. Nvidia is nearly 100mhz slower then the competition.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15661

Violator · 05-03-04, 05:28 AM

Clock speed isn't everything you know. Don't you find it interesting that ATi is now the one ramping up the clock-speeds. Wonder why........

OBLIVIONLORD · 05-03-04, 01:57 PM

Ati has been a core clock of 525mhz since it was announced and nvidia was the only one that was ramping the core just the once. Unless there was some info of ati before it was announced.

05-01-04, 05:30 AM	Thread Starter #1
OBLIVIONLORD Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Nvidia is now in the lead yet once again in speed! http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15641 Im loving this. If it wasnt for competition then we would probably stuck witha lousy 400mhz crappy clock speed I just hope they keep battling it out to see who is going to be faster then who and actually hit the 600mhz mark without the need of ocing the video card.
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05-01-04, 06:24 AM	#2
ninthebin Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Liverpool, UK	if this is true, afaik this still leave nvidia shouting about what its doing and laying all its cards on the table whilst ATI can still wait for their oppurtune moment. The inquirer writers just like the sound of their own keyboards tapping...leave it till the the X800 XT and 6800 Ultra actual retail samples are about then things will be a bit more definite
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05-01-04, 06:47 AM	#3
snvpa Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Connecticut	If this speed race is true I see lots of cards dying due to poor case ventilation and improper cooling solutions. I'm sure they can go fater still but at what cost.
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05-01-04, 06:59 AM	#4
TruckyJ Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Middle America	I'll believe it when I see the retail cards tested extensively tested against one another...until then....
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05-01-04, 08:01 AM	#6
conscript Registered Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glen Allen, VA	great...so they send out a cooler card where the fan is acceptable. The they overclock their own cards and put the 5700 fan on it...
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Overclocker550 Member Join Date: Feb 2002	if nvidia overclocks their own cards, then the end user wont be able to oc them then.
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Gregory_WE Member Join Date: Jun 2002	Yeah, that's true. Take my Ti4600 for example. It's stock core speed is 300MHz. If, say, they had decided that for performance reasons they wished to bump it up to 315-320, then that would be just fine, but I personally wouldn't be able to OC it much more, so if you are an overclocker, your gains would be decreased. __________________ CPU: Intel E8400 [Q745A356] MOBO: Abit IP35 Pro RAM: 4GB OCZ PC2-6400 SLI Version VIDEO: ASUS 9800GT Ultimate SOUND: X-Fi XtremeMusic HD: WD 640GB Blue PSU: Corsair HX650W CASE: Superflower SF-201 MONITOR: Samsung T260HD OS: Vista Business 64-bit HEADPHONES: Creative Aurvana Live Heatware
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stratcatprowlin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MG,Brazil	Man if I had this 6800 card,I would not oc at all. For that much money I want it to last as long as possible. Plus with the performance out of the box I wouldnt have to!
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Cowboy X Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Folding in Barbados	I Pretty much expected this for a while now . This is why they recommend a 480W powersupply , 2 molex connectors , a speaker to warn of low power and 2 slots . None of those things are neccessary at 400 Mhz . But some questions will have to be asked : 1/ what will happen to their yeilds ? In other words how many 'ultra' cards will actually make it into computers other than those of reviewers ? 2/ Will a 480W powersupply really be enough ? 3/ How will the thus far acceptable sound levels go when the extra speed is dialed in . 4/ What will the current draw and heat-output look like with the extra speed . 5/ Will pricing remain the same ? __________________ 1/Asus P6T SE,Core i7 920 ( H2O ),ATI Radeon 5870 ( H2O ),OCZ Reaper 6 GB,OCZ Z 1000W modular ps,Seagate 7200.8 250 x2,WD Caviar Black 1TB,Nec AD-7170A,LG GGC Asus USB3.0 and SATA 6g cardBlu-ray/HD DVD drive and burner,Modified Koolance Tower , Swiftech GTZ, Koolance chipset and memory blocks, Modified Maze4 GPU cooler,Vista Ultimate 64 2/Sony Vaio SR590,Core 2 Duo P7450, ATI 4570m, 4GB DDR2, Win 7 64bit, Crucial M4 3/PS3 80 GB and 160 GB Intermittent FOLDING: system 1, ATI 5870 and PS3 for Team 32 " Fear of GOD is the beginning of wisdom " "The grass withereth, the flower fadeth, but the word of our GOD shall stand forever." Fold for Team 32
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baqai Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Karachi, Pakistan	many things are said when ever there is something new being introduced if i am not wrong Voodoo 5500 was the first ever video card with a molex connector and there were lot of flames on using the molex at that time, but what happened we eventually got used to using molex connectors with video cards, so lets see how we adopt to this new change being introduced by nvidia as for performance is concerned only time will tell when R420 is introduced __________________ Processor : Intel Core i5 750 Mobo :Intel DP55WB GPU : HIS HD 5750 1GB PSU : Cooler Master 500W RAM : 2x4GB Kingston 1333 Mhz DDR3 Display :1x42" Panasonic C10 Plasma and Dell 23" 1080p LED Speakers :Onkyo 605 with Polk Audio 5.1 Setup
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05-03-04, 05:25 AM	Thread Starter #15
OBLIVIONLORD Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Ok i take it back about Nvidia being in the lead. All they are going to do is up the clock speed a lousy 50mhz and call it the ultra "extreme", What a bunch of crap. Ati is 525mhz core with just 1 molex connector. Nvidia is nearly 100mhz slower then the competition. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15661
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05-03-04, 05:28 AM	#16
Violator Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lower Walton, Warrington	Clock speed isn't everything you know. Don't you find it interesting that ATi is now the one ramping up the clock-speeds. Wonder why........
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05-03-04, 01:57 PM	Thread Starter #17
OBLIVIONLORD Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Ati has been a core clock of 525mhz since it was announced and nvidia was the only one that was ramping the core just the once. Unless there was some info of ati before it was announced.
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