Buying a new proc today, which core C or E

Myhre · May 24, 2004

I've decided that I am definately buying a new proc today from newegg. I'm still having trouble deciding which to get. I'm currently running a 2.8C on a p4c800e-dlx mobo, but I'm getting in a 1gig set of twinx-xms-3200llpro's today. So I definatly want to go ahead and make the jump to a new proc, because I just don't think I'm ready to wait for the "DO" steppings for the prescotts and I'm sure this will be my last p4 anyway. So, what would you guys suggest. I'm looking at the 3.0C, 3.0E, 3.2C and the 3.2E. Any suggestions or comments would be great, thankyou.

aNTiChRisT · May 24, 2004

C

~t0m

FACTION95Si · May 24, 2004

Can you give a little more info on why you would choose a C?

Also which CPU is better for gaming?

batboy · May 24, 2004

You already have a 2.8C and you want to upgrade? Why?

Myhre · May 24, 2004

Because it's a weak 2.8C that I could never even get stable above 210fsb on a p4p800 mobo :-/

Siphilon · May 24, 2004

So you plan to overclock. What does your cooling setup look like or will look like? From everything that I have read and from what I have experienced personally, the Prescott's are going to require more cool loving to overclock them successfully. Whereas the Northy's aren't going to be as big of an issue..

_Siph

Myhre · May 24, 2004

Right now I'm using a Swiftech 5000 Waterblock, with a blackice xtreme 120mm rad, and the swifty mcp600 pump. Thats my main concern with the Prescotts...I'd go for a prescott for sure if I were running a peltier system, or phase change. But I want to keep this case somewhat simple in design, since it's only a mid tower lian li and not my full server case. And I'm hoping to hit at least 250fsb, using corsair 3200llpro's. So I'm thinking I'm going to need to stick with the C in order to accomplish that. I've ruled out the 3.2C. But now I'm actually looking at either getting another 2.8C or a 3.0C. I'm just not sure which has the better stepping out + stronger overclocker/chance to get a cherry chip. Ugh....

Myhre · May 24, 2004

oooo, that post gave me my second star, woot!

Sophisticated · May 24, 2004

well what are your Bios settings you have set so mayb we can help you achieve a higher OC..it's probably a couple settings u dont know about that will help alot so let us know

Myhre · May 24, 2004

I think I've tried everything. Tell me if I don't mention something that I could try. I honestly think it might have been my crappy pny 3200 ram. Okay I've tried 5:4, set agp at 33/66, raised v on ram...I'm trying to think of what else I tried, I know there was more, if you have anything else that you think might work I'd be more than happy for the advice.

Sophisticated · May 24, 2004

turn PAT off turbo off ...set timmings to 3-4-4-8 Vdimm to max set your vcore to 1.6...stay in 5:4 but yes it may be your RAM but try these things

Myhre · May 24, 2004

Yeah, I had tried all that, except for the PAT off...I was running it on a p4p800 board not a p4c at the time. I'm now waiting on my p4cboard to get back after being RMA'd because of a burned mosfet. Also I've got twinx xms3200llpro corsair inc.

Sophisticated · May 24, 2004

well when u get that board back try these settings once again

Myhre · May 24, 2004

Will do, and thankyou for the tips

Vipasnipa · May 25, 2004

You want a C class P4. They overclock and perform better then the current Prescotts. Simple.

batboy · May 25, 2004

I've never seen a 2.8C do less than 220 FSB, there must be another problem.

Myhre · May 25, 2004

I think I just got a weak/bad/sad little 2.8. It's called bad luck syndrome and I am the host.

FACTION95Si · May 25, 2004

E vs. C ?

Are there any benchmarks or comparisons between the C and E chips? Does the extra memory on the Prescott help performance in any way? Are Prescotts too much of a pain right now? I'm going to be buying one or the other from Newegg within the next couple hours.

batboy · May 25, 2004

I did some comparisons between the 2.8C and 2.8E. At default speeds, the Northwood beat in most benchmarks. At 3.4 gig the Prescott caught up in performance... the Northwood still won some tests, the Prescott edged ahead in memory related benchmarks, and it was a near tie in others. Trouble with the Prescott is that it's hot. At least 10 degrees warmer than the Northwood. If you want a Prescott, wait until the new steppings arrive. If you are buying right away, get the 3.0C.

Myhre · May 25, 2004

So which Northwood is a stronger overclocker? The 2.8 or the 3.0? And are they both out with the MO stepping?

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