[imposter]

what is a good ocing mobo for a mobile A 64 2800+, not sure if it were it belongs if it belongs some were else move it.

[bafbrian]

I would recommend the MSI K8N Neo NF3 250GB board. It is supposed to support desktop and mobile chips from what I've heard.

Here is a link to some of the NF3 boards reviewed at Anandtech.

http://www.anandtech.com/chipsets/sh...tml?i=2063&p=1

[oc_byagi]

I keep on hearing various bugs and poor quality capacitors MSI has been using. I would recommend epox 8KDA3+ or 8KDA3J. (I have MSI Plat lying in my room, taking off a backplate is a real pain if you're going to be using aftermarket heatsinks, and it may not even fit mobiles depending on models) People recommend MSI simply because it is the only decent one that is out, now that epox started showing up, go with Newcastle core (CG Stepping) + epox (nforce3 250gb).

[tediber]

it may not fit mobiles ?? aren't they both socket 754 ....... as far as i know mobile A64s are all socket 754

[oc_byagi]

no, I meant the aftermarket heatsinks may not fit on mobiles, due to the lack of heatspreaders. My water cooling block doesn't fit because of it. Honestly, what is the point of going mobiles now??? there are retail newcastle cores out, it GURANTEES CG STEPPING and you can probably OVERCLOCK BETTER, AND NO COMPABILITY ISSUES.

[imposter]

so why dont get a one with 1MB of L2 Cache better than 512. new egg does not have epox. and i want a mobile so all of them are One MB of L2 Cache. here how is this, a msi nforce3 250GB and a M3000+

[Docta_Z]

I suggest any of the Nforce 3 Solutions will work great.

Stay away from VIA until they fix the AGP/PCI lock issues..

[oc_byagi]

Originally Posted by imposter

so why dont get a one with 1MB of L2 Cache better than 512. new egg does not have epox. and i want a mobile so all of them are One MB of L2 Cache. here how is this, a msi nforce3 250GB and a M3000+

ummm, where are you looking at? they have both models of epox. and 512 cache is better because it's retail, no compabiility issues. Please, read and find information before you post. And also because Newcastles have higher multiplier, you can definitely overclock higher. Don't post these random crap.

[imposter]

well im going 2 get a mobile i heard there better
can a epox support a mobile?
if so does it sound good?

[oc_byagi]

it doesn't, and how are mobiles better, if both retails and mobiles have CG steppings? Yes, temperature may transfer better WITHOUT heatspreader but it's nothing to justify one as being a better type. I believe you're being influenced/brainwashed with mobiles from mobile XP's, as you're mistaken about mobile 64 being better than retail chips. I do not understand why you would want to risk the compability issues with mobo and heatsinks to go for something that is almost identically the same. In fact, mobile 64s even have some problems with MSI Neo Platinum, which people are recommending because it only gives you voltage up to 1.45v with multiplier at 4x. I have heard you need to adjust it with clockgen but I do not desire to overclock through clockgen.

[hrhrhrFOOT]

Originally Posted by oc_byagi

ummm, where are you looking at? they have both models of epox. and 512 cache is better because it's retail, no compabiility issues. Please, read and find information before you post. And also because Newcastles have higher multiplier, you can definitely overclock higher. Don't post these random crap.

Wrong. Mobiles have 1mb of cache. If you bypass the low mult by using a high fsb, you can easily get high OCs with 1mb cache on the cheap. The hard part is finding a compatible mobo, but a little research should help you find that. If you don't really care about the extra cache, then YES, GO NEWCASTLE!!!!!

[oc_byagi]

I didn't say mobiles have 512k cache..... please read. I said THERE IS NO POINT for going 1MB CLAWHAMMER mobiles, since there are 512 cache NEWCASTLE RETAIL that is also CG stepping, and overclocks better without having any compability issues..

[imposter]

1)well what is CG steppings

2) im going 2 get the epox 8KDA3J because i did a little reading and i saw that epox are 1000x better, so now what proccessor do u recomend ? the non mobile or the mobile? im just trying 2 get a high overclock with the lest amonts of problems

i understand that there the almost the same, so which will u get ? and also the price is not it, the difference is only 10$, and should i get a 512K cache or should i get 1MB of L2 cache.

[oc_byagi]

Yes, I'm glad you're understanding and doing some research. Umm, best chip at the moment? I suggest retail Newcastle core 3200+ (512kb cache) from newegg for $282. At least that's what I'll be ordering next week.

[imposter]

cool well i dont have the money for a 3200+ ill get a 3000+

[The Coolest]

imposter, before you order make sure you're getting a CG stepping NewCastle and not a C0 Clawhammer. There are 512KB clawhammers out there still. Make sure that the 3000+ you get has an OPN code that ends with AR (CG clawhammer) or AX (CG Newcastle). If it ends with AP stay away from that CPU as its a C0 stepping clawhammer and will not overclock that well in comparison with the CG stepping chips.