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512 newcastle better then 1mb l2 chace clawhammer?
- Thread starter Onkyo
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The 1MB version, is *FAR* better. On average they have an effictice speed of the 512kb versions + 200mhz.
No matter how fast you clock the 512kb version, you will always be about 200mhz behind the 1MB version.
In otherwords, buy the 1MB ones, b4 they are gone, cuz AMD has stopped making em.
No matter how fast you clock the 512kb version, you will always be about 200mhz behind the 1MB version.
In otherwords, buy the 1MB ones, b4 they are gone, cuz AMD has stopped making em.
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I got a 3200+ clawhammer with 1mb l2 cache and from what I hear is they are better and the 3200+ seem to be decent overclockers. I'd rather have the extra L2 cache 
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Onkyo said:
*NO* they clock slightly better. The 512kb cores are in every way, inferior. Get a 1MB. My friend Gautum swears by his.
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The 948 is what he uses. However he rigged his to take a Torin blower. But a Tornado or Smart-Fan2 should be fine.
and yea. Gautum's is a Mobile A64. As much as he has had problems with getting it to work right. He loves it dearly, as much as I adore my 2600+ M.
Happy hunting!
<ADDITIONAL NOTE> be careful of the RAM you use. A64's memory controller is very picky.
Double Sided RAM, and multiple sticks cause major headaches.
. But a Tornado or Smart-Fan2 should be fine.and yea. Gautum's is a Mobile A64. As much as he has had problems with getting it to work right. He loves it dearly, as much as I adore my 2600+ M.
Happy hunting!
<ADDITIONAL NOTE> be careful of the RAM you use. A64's memory controller is very picky.
Double Sided RAM, and multiple sticks cause major headaches.
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Hmmm Ive hear *REALLY* bad things about the 8KN PRO (the MSI). Gautum's on a Gigabyte <I believe>.
Ive heard that MSI's quality control has gone through the ****ter lately
Ive heard that MSI's quality control has gone through the ****ter lately
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Onkyo said:
if you wait a tiny bit longer, the xp-120 will be out soon
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Sentential said:Hmmm Ive hear *REALLY* bad things about the 8KN PRO (the MSI). Gautum's on a Gigabyte <I believe>.
Ive heard that MSI's quality control has gone through the ****ter lately
yea he is on a older gigabyte board he just told me
it isnt a new one but i hear that no matter how bad the msi board is people still go back when they finally get a new one . lol which board would you reccomend ?
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Gautum is on AIM right now if you wanna talk to em about A64s. 
check out this site
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=65000314
they do a rundown and compare how much 1meg cache vs 512k, dual vs single channel memory, and buffered vs unbuffered.
If you look how much a 2800+ and 3000+, you can estimate how a 3200+ newcastle would compare to a 3200+ clawhammer. The difference between a newcastle and clawhammer at SIMILAR clock speed is only around 2-3% while the difference of clockspeed is 10% and will affect the peformance more. Also the newcastle have higher multiplier for higher speeds.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2038&p=3
you can see that the clockspeed can affect the overall performance more so then an increase cache size
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=65000314
they do a rundown and compare how much 1meg cache vs 512k, dual vs single channel memory, and buffered vs unbuffered.
If you look how much a 2800+ and 3000+, you can estimate how a 3200+ newcastle would compare to a 3200+ clawhammer. The difference between a newcastle and clawhammer at SIMILAR clock speed is only around 2-3% while the difference of clockspeed is 10% and will affect the peformance more. Also the newcastle have higher multiplier for higher speeds.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2038&p=3
you can see that the clockspeed can affect the overall performance more so then an increase cache size
