Random reboots?

pwnt by pat · 07-14-04, 07:53 PM

Hey, I built a comp for a friend and he keeps having reboot problems. The comp is this:

Athlon XP 3200 (newegg)
Abit NF7-S v2.0 (excaliber pc)
Hardcorecooling CH5 ram 2-2-2-5 @2.6 200mhz
100gb hard drive on pata-to-sata converter (zipzoomfly)
Xtasy 9800 pro 128 256-bit (allstarshop or gameve, I forget)
volcano 12 @ lowest speed.

After formatting and installing windows xp, I installed chipset drivers from the cd, video drivers from the cd, direct x, upgraded chipset and video drivers in that order.

The computer is at stock speed, stock voltages, stock timings... everything "loaded from optimized defaults". The computer will randomly reboot. It's rebooted at least three times since last night. It rebooted while accessing a cd, playing a game, and accessing a downloaded video. There is no shutdown temperature and it reads 35c after the reboot. It has me baffled.

I just now (literally) told him to max dram and chipset voltages and set cpuvoltage to 1.7 and we'll see if that helps.

What might it be?

100mbHD · 07-15-04, 12:45 AM

I was first going to say what are temps, but at 35*C, it should be good. How is the power supply? is it sufficient enough for that setup?

pwnt by pat · 07-15-04, 01:17 AM

It's a generic 550w that came with the case. I estimated it to be about 250-350w during actual use. That's still enough for his computer. That was my second guess and there's no way to check unless I go over there with my multimeter and check myself.

If it's not the temperature, and it's not the powersupply then all I can think it is is a bad install or a bad pata-sata converter. The board only shipped with one ide cable and I didn't have a spare at the time.

scottmso · 07-15-04, 01:20 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if it may be the PSU. Even if it isn't, it may be best to replace the generic one. Get a FSP from Newegg.

Arkan21 · 07-15-04, 11:28 AM

I had the same problem. There is a setting in windows where you can tell it not to reboot during a system faliure. Right Click my computer and go to properties, then advance, then startup and recovery. Yeah my problem was a BAD Ram module. Does you friend have 1 or 2 modules? You might want to run memt86 to see if you have a bad module.

pwnt by pat · 07-15-04, 11:46 AM

He has two sticks of 512. If upping the voltage doesn't help him, I'll have him run some programs like memtest to see what's wrong.

@md0Cer · 07-15-04, 12:18 PM

I wouldnt doubt it if it was some type or a worm or virus or something. This dell I am on just recently started getting random reboots too. I keep checking www.symantec.com...but I do not see any curent virus that does this. I recently started getting restarts and then I could not turn it on either. If I find anything out for my system, I will let you know

Gautam · 07-15-04, 12:36 PM

Try loosening the tRCD to 3. Not even close to every CH5 stick can run tRCD 2.

pwnt by pat · 07-15-04, 04:39 PM

Well that's what it's spec'd to. It's also set to by speed. It's not a worm as it did it before connecting to the internet.

07-14-04, 07:53 PM	Thread Starter #1
pwnt by pat Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cranberry Twp. PA	Random reboots? Hey, I built a comp for a friend and he keeps having reboot problems. The comp is this: Athlon XP 3200 (newegg) Abit NF7-S v2.0 (excaliber pc) Hardcorecooling CH5 ram 2-2-2-5 @2.6 200mhz 100gb hard drive on pata-to-sata converter (zipzoomfly) Xtasy 9800 pro 128 256-bit (allstarshop or gameve, I forget) volcano 12 @ lowest speed. After formatting and installing windows xp, I installed chipset drivers from the cd, video drivers from the cd, direct x, upgraded chipset and video drivers in that order. The computer is at stock speed, stock voltages, stock timings... everything "loaded from optimized defaults". The computer will randomly reboot. It's rebooted at least three times since last night. It rebooted while accessing a cd, playing a game, and accessing a downloaded video. There is no shutdown temperature and it reads 35c after the reboot. It has me baffled. I just now (literally) told him to max dram and chipset voltages and set cpuvoltage to 1.7 and we'll see if that helps. What might it be? __________________ Intel 630 ASUS P5LD2-VM 2x256 WINTEC AMP-X Raptor 360gb + Seagate sata 400gb Pioneer DVR-106 Antec True350 Cheapest black USB keyboard from the Egg + Razer Viper Some people don't deserve to have anything electronic other than a TV, and maybe a toaster, becuase they may hurt themselves and possibly someone else.
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07-15-04, 12:45 AM	#2
100mbHD Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA	I was first going to say what are temps, but at 35*C, it should be good. How is the power supply? is it sufficient enough for that setup?
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07-15-04, 01:17 AM	Thread Starter #3
pwnt by pat Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cranberry Twp. PA	It's a generic 550w that came with the case. I estimated it to be about 250-350w during actual use. That's still enough for his computer. That was my second guess and there's no way to check unless I go over there with my multimeter and check myself. If it's not the temperature, and it's not the powersupply then all I can think it is is a bad install or a bad pata-sata converter. The board only shipped with one ide cable and I didn't have a spare at the time. __________________ Intel 630 ASUS P5LD2-VM 2x256 WINTEC AMP-X Raptor 360gb + Seagate sata 400gb Pioneer DVR-106 Antec True350 Cheapest black USB keyboard from the Egg + Razer Viper Some people don't deserve to have anything electronic other than a TV, and maybe a toaster, becuase they may hurt themselves and possibly someone else.
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07-15-04, 01:20 AM	#4
scottmso Registered Join Date: May 2004	I wouldn't be surprised if it may be the PSU. Even if it isn't, it may be best to replace the generic one. Get a FSP from Newegg.
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07-15-04, 11:28 AM	#5
Arkan21 New Member Join Date: Jul 2004	I had the same problem. There is a setting in windows where you can tell it not to reboot during a system faliure. Right Click my computer and go to properties, then advance, then startup and recovery. Yeah my problem was a BAD Ram module. Does you friend have 1 or 2 modules? You might want to run memt86 to see if you have a bad module.
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07-15-04, 11:46 AM	Thread Starter #6
pwnt by pat Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cranberry Twp. PA	He has two sticks of 512. If upping the voltage doesn't help him, I'll have him run some programs like memtest to see what's wrong. __________________ Intel 630 ASUS P5LD2-VM 2x256 WINTEC AMP-X Raptor 360gb + Seagate sata 400gb Pioneer DVR-106 Antec True350 Cheapest black USB keyboard from the Egg + Razer Viper Some people don't deserve to have anything electronic other than a TV, and maybe a toaster, becuase they may hurt themselves and possibly someone else.
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07-15-04, 12:18 PM	#7
@md0Cer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver, CO	I wouldnt doubt it if it was some type or a worm or virus or something. This dell I am on just recently started getting random reboots too. I keep checking www.symantec.com...but I do not see any curent virus that does this. I recently started getting restarts and then I could not turn it on either. If I find anything out for my system, I will let you know __________________ Current System: XP 1700+ DLT3C 0310 XPMW 185X13.5 = 2.5GHz 1.875Vcore Thermalright SLK-900A Abit KD7 Via KT400 5:2:1 divider PCI: 37Mhz AGP:92.5Mhz 3X256+512=1278MB RAM assortment 185Mhz 2.95Vdimm ATi Radeon X700 Pro 256mb Core:435Mhz Ram: 475Mhz Forton 400 watt PSU Black Cheiftec Dragon full side window
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07-15-04, 12:36 PM	#8
Gautam Senior Benchmark Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hillsboro, OR	Try loosening the tRCD to 3. Not even close to every CH5 stick can run tRCD 2. __________________ El<(')>Maxi: I still have your board...and I'm afraid I lost your address so I can't send it back...and my pm box is broken...and I can't remember where the PO is anyway
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07-15-04, 04:39 PM	Thread Starter #9
pwnt by pat Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cranberry Twp. PA	Well that's what it's spec'd to. It's also set to by speed. It's not a worm as it did it before connecting to the internet. __________________ Intel 630 ASUS P5LD2-VM 2x256 WINTEC AMP-X Raptor 360gb + Seagate sata 400gb Pioneer DVR-106 Antec True350 Cheapest black USB keyboard from the Egg + Razer Viper Some people don't deserve to have anything electronic other than a TV, and maybe a toaster, becuase they may hurt themselves and possibly someone else.
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