What is the best a64 mobo?

jlee24219 · 07-31-04, 06:47 PM

I am using the chaintech vnf3-250 and it is evidently dying on me or something, so if i can't diagnos the problem that what would be a good board to get that willl last and be stable. I would like to have agp/pci locks and the board be very stable. Any suggestions?

thanks.

The Coolest · 07-31-04, 07:00 PM

Right now the epox nf3 250GB is the best. soon the DFI will be released. and from watching how the "Beta" of it overclocks, I think it will be the next best board to overclock with

dreIU · 07-31-04, 07:05 PM

I agree with the epox, but it is still nowhere to be found... man I hate waiting. anybody has any clue where I could get it from? all my sources are out.

hitechjb1 · 07-31-04, 07:18 PM

Currently, there is no 1 or 2 standout board for A64 (754) like in the case of Nforce2.

E.g. the EPOX 8KDA3+ does not have native support for the IEEE 1394 (firewire), cannot understand why, and for some people it is a no go.

These are what many people are using:
- Epox 8KDA3+/J (nVidia nForce3-250Gb)
- Abit KV8 PRO Revision 1.1 (VIA K8T800 PRO)
- MSI K8N Neo Platinum (nVidia nForce3-250Gb)
- Chaintech VNF3-250 (nVidia nForce3-250)
- Gigabyte K8NSNXP (nVidia nForce3-250Gb)

Exemplary A64 systems: setups, results and experiences (post 63)

jlee24219 · 07-31-04, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dreIU

I agree with the epox, but it is still nowhere to be found... man I hate waiting. anybody has any clue where I could get it from? all my sources are out.

newegg has them
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...P=OTC-d3alt1me

Maxvla · 07-31-04, 07:21 PM

i think he meant the 8kda3j

dreIU · 07-31-04, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitechjb1

Currently, there is no 1 or 2 standout board for A64 (754) like in the case of Nforce2.

E.g. the EPOX 8KDA3+ does not have native support for the IEEE 1394 (firewire), cannot understand why, and for some people it is a no go.

These are what many people are using:
- Epox 8KDA3+/J (nVidia nForce3-250Gb)
- Abit KV8 PRO Revision 1.1 (VIA K8T800 PRO)
- MSI K8N Neo Platinum (nVidia nForce3-250Gb)
- Chaintech VNF3-250 (nVidia nForce3-250)
- Gigabyte K8NSNXP (nVidia nForce3-250Gb)

Exemplary A64 systems: setups, results and experiences (post 63)

Well, for me, just because it does not have support for IEEE 1394, it does not mean it is a no go... I have no use for that, but it may be a big deal to others I guess.

jlee24219, I was refering to the 8kda3j.

The Coolest · 07-31-04, 07:36 PM

what's the deal? what's so bad about a PCI firewire card?

dreIU · 07-31-04, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Coolest

what's the deal? what's so bad about a PCI firewire card?

It is probabily not used to its full potential if it is limited to PCI speeds...

Anyway, the 8kda3j is what I reccomend. I wonder if it has working pci/agp lock..

Jess1313 · 07-31-04, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dreIU

It is probabily not used to its full potential if it is limited to PCI speeds...

Anyway, the 8kda3j is what I reccomend. I wonder if it has working pci/agp lock..

Yes

dreIU · 07-31-04, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jess1313

Yes

Thanks! just what I wanted to hear... mwave.com should have them in monday, and newegg on wednesday... although both of them were supposed to have them this past week. Must be some high demand I guess.

hitechjb1 · 07-31-04, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreIU

It is probabily not used to its full potential if it is limited to PCI speeds...

...

I think, this is why, ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitechjb1

Why native device support from chipset is better

For KT133, KT266, KT333, KT400, and some old Nforce2 motherboards, many devices are supported by the PCI bus. PCI bus has max bandwidth of only 132 MB/s (32 bit x 33 MHz).

Due to the use of legacy motherboards, many high speed devices such as IEEE 1394 (firewire) devices (HD, optical drives, video devices, camcorder, ...) are still running on firewire ports supported by PCI bus.

IEEE 1394 is a high speed serial bus standard that supports data transfer rates of up to 400 Mb/s (in 1394a) and 800 Mb/s (in 1394b). A single 1394 port can connect up to 63 external devices. As such, a firewire port is reaching the PCI bus limit. If there are more than one firewire port and more firewire devices are used, the PCI bandwidth and PCI bus contention would limit the performance of the connected firewire devices.

The 250 GB (compared to non-GB) chipset allows less device dependence on the PCI bus, whose bandwidth is way imbalance compared to an A64 system bandwidth (max_HT_BW to max_PCI_BW = 60:1), until PCI-express becomes main stream.

PCI-express 1X, 40 pins, maxBW = 2.5 Gb/s (basic link)
PCI-express 16X, 168 pins, maxBW = 5 GB/s

PCI-express and devices (post 17)

shard · 07-31-04, 08:59 PM

whats the difference between the 8KDA3+ and the 8KDA3J ?

BaMz · 07-31-04, 11:07 PM

How much will the new DFI's be?

dreIU · 08-01-04, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shard

whats the difference between the 8KDA3+ and the 8KDA3J ?

Look at the dirrerences in the newegg description... it is minimal as you can see.

As far as the DFI boards, they will be around 150ish.

zyx · 08-01-04, 09:32 AM

waiting for dfi. right now epox

Droban · 08-01-04, 10:02 AM

What's wrong with the ASUS board?

nocturnal714 · 08-01-04, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreIU

Look at the dirrerences in the newegg description... it is minimal as you can see.

As far as the DFI boards, they will be around 150ish.

forget that. for me to spend 150 or more on a mobo it would have to be the greatest mobo ever made.

The Coolest · 08-01-04, 10:28 AM

From what i've it could pretty much be the best board you've ever seen

herbs97 · 08-01-04, 11:15 AM

I agree with Droban, Whats wrong with asus. Such as;
K8V Se Deluxe w/K8T800 Chipset $118
K8N-E Deluxe w/nForce3 250 GB $137
K8V w/K8T800 $97

07-31-04, 06:47 PM	Thread Starter #1
jlee24219 Registered Join Date: Jul 2004	What is the best a64 mobo? I am using the chaintech vnf3-250 and it is evidently dying on me or something, so if i can't diagnos the problem that what would be a good board to get that willl last and be stable. I would like to have agp/pci locks and the board be very stable. Any suggestions? thanks.
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07-31-04, 07:00 PM	#2
The Coolest Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tel Aviv, Israel	Right now the epox nf3 250GB is the best. soon the DFI will be released. and from watching how the "Beta" of it overclocks, I think it will be the next best board to overclock with __________________ "<The_Coolest> You can't unwaste wasted CPU cycles" - Start FOLDing now! Main rig: Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.5GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / SSD: Crucial M4 128GB (+ HDDs) / GPU: HD5450 or 8800 Ultra / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBXL RipJaws X - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W. Secondary rig: Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ Stock / Mobo: MSI H55M-ED55 / GPU: Integrated / Mem: 2x2GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBRL RipJaws - 4GB total / PSU: FSP ATX350-PNR 350W. Core Temp - Accurate temperature monitor for Intel's Core/Core 2 and AMD64 processors Heatware
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07-31-04, 07:05 PM	#3
dreIU Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN	I agree with the epox, but it is still nowhere to be found... man I hate waiting. anybody has any clue where I could get it from? all my sources are out.
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07-31-04, 07:18 PM	#4
hitechjb1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003	Currently, there is no 1 or 2 standout board for A64 (754) like in the case of Nforce2. E.g. the EPOX 8KDA3+ does not have native support for the IEEE 1394 (firewire), cannot understand why, and for some people it is a no go. These are what many people are using: - Epox 8KDA3+/J (nVidia nForce3-250Gb) - Abit KV8 PRO Revision 1.1 (VIA K8T800 PRO) - MSI K8N Neo Platinum (nVidia nForce3-250Gb) - Chaintech VNF3-250 (nVidia nForce3-250) - Gigabyte K8NSNXP (nVidia nForce3-250Gb) Exemplary A64 systems: setups, results and experiences (post 63) __________________ Overclocking sandbox for A64 939 systems with Winchester and beyond A64 CPUs, chipsets, motherboards A64 Overclocking Result Collection Overclocking sandbox: Tbred B DLT3C and beyond - DFI LP UT NF4 Ultra-D, Opteron 165 CCBBE 0610 DPMW 3.00 GHz, highest clock 3.30 GHz, XP-90, G. Skill 4800 2 x 512 MB, X800Pro (Winchester 0447 CBBHD 2.83 GHz 314x9 1.52V) - ABIT NF7-S rev 2.0, Mobile Barton 2600+ IQYHA 0351 MPMW 2.71 GHz (225x12), 18/37 C, 1.89 V, SLK-947U 80mm Tornado (w/ fan control), 512 MB x 2 3500 C2 2-3-2-5, 9500 np -> 9700 np 360/311 - ASUS A7N8X DLX, Tbred B 1700+ 0310 XPMW 2.56 GHz (205x12.5) 1.94 V, max at 2.6 GHz, SLK-800U + TT SFII, 48/40 28/26 C, 512MB 3500 C2 2-3-2-5 (retired) - Intel 8088 4.77 MHz 8bit CPU, 64KB memory, 1 MB HD, 5 1/4" floppy drive, DOS, 200 bps modem, 80x25 char display Last edited by hitechjb1; 07-31-04 at 07:27 PM.
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The Coolest Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tel Aviv, Israel	what's the deal? what's so bad about a PCI firewire card? __________________ "<The_Coolest> You can't unwaste wasted CPU cycles" - Start FOLDing now! Main rig: Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.5GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / SSD: Crucial M4 128GB (+ HDDs) / GPU: HD5450 or 8800 Ultra / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBXL RipJaws X - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W. Secondary rig: Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ Stock / Mobo: MSI H55M-ED55 / GPU: Integrated / Mem: 2x2GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBRL RipJaws - 4GB total / PSU: FSP ATX350-PNR 350W. Core Temp - Accurate temperature monitor for Intel's Core/Core 2 and AMD64 processors Heatware
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BaMz New Member Join Date: Jul 2004	How much will the new DFI's be?
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08-01-04, 09:32 AM	#16
zyx New Member Join Date: Apr 2004	waiting for dfi. right now epox
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The Coolest Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tel Aviv, Israel	From what i've it could pretty much be the best board you've ever seen __________________ "<The_Coolest> You can't unwaste wasted CPU cycles" - Start FOLDing now! Main rig: Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.5GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / SSD: Crucial M4 128GB (+ HDDs) / GPU: HD5450 or 8800 Ultra / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBXL RipJaws X - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W. Secondary rig: Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ Stock / Mobo: MSI H55M-ED55 / GPU: Integrated / Mem: 2x2GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBRL RipJaws - 4GB total / PSU: FSP ATX350-PNR 350W. Core Temp - Accurate temperature monitor for Intel's Core/Core 2 and AMD64 processors Heatware
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herbs97 Registered Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Coal City,Illinois	I agree with Droban, Whats wrong with asus. Such as; K8V Se Deluxe w/K8T800 Chipset $118 K8N-E Deluxe w/nForce3 250 GB $137 K8V w/K8T800 $97
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