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Old 08-18-04, 04:25 AM Thread Starter   #1
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Do you think people can REALLY change?


Well i'm not going to tell the ENTIRE story because it would take forever to read to just fill in the middle....

Me and my ex started dateing back in 7th grade. We went for a long time... broke up over the summer and got back together in 8th grade. As we got older we started to fight more... she became much more bitchy and wasn't the same girl I had met before. And her friend, OMG her friend! EVIL PEOPLE! Everyone can agree to that...

Anyways so here we are about mid 9th grade... and I just know she's cheatin on me... she keeps sayin she's not and to trust her. Well it's just natural for me to be untrusting... but how do you explain ditching me on halloween night and ending over at some guys house till 1am... and how do you explain lieing to me on the phone saying she has to go to eat when really some guy (19yrs old) came to pick her up. Not to mention these guys telling me they they are going to kill me... and her friends bitching me out like crazy saying i'm such a horribal boyfriend. And what girlfriend braggs on the phone to me about how she could cheat on me if she wanted to and I would never know...

Now I know i'm not the best guy in the world.. but I tryed to talk to every damn neutral person I could find and made sure I wasn't some crazy ass that coulden't see himself... and i'm not

I just coulden't take it anymore... I was just so ticked. Finally it was ended... she ended it seconds before I could. I was trying to hold it together and see wtf happened but it didn't work...

I still care about her greatelly but I don't think I could go through what I did in 8th/9th grade.... sometimes waiting in your house with weapons in fear of one of these guys pulling in my driveway... (never happened they were bluffing).

Now I just KNOW with 10th grade starting she is going to want to get back together..... what I don't know is if I should or not. I mean could she have really changed over the summer... or are we going to go for a few months then have all hell break loose?

After 2 years of being together I could tell you exactelly how she is feeling just by looking at her... but now she's totally different.
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Old 08-18-04, 05:41 AM   #2
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Is 10th grade about 14yrs old?

Sounds like you've made a good decision about dropping her. Trust is important.

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Old 08-18-04, 06:22 AM   #3
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dont get back together..with 10th grade coming you have more important things to worry about..frankly i think high school relationships shouldnt happen..im not saying a fling isnt good..but being that serious in high school should happen. high school is friends and fun and explore your youth until you have to change it in college..work on ur GPA so you dont get screwed in 11th grade and college.

itll be hard to forget her..but she deserves to be dropped..have fun and find someone in college where you can be more serious
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Old 08-18-04, 10:25 AM   #4
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To hell with her man. I can attest to some CRAPPY relationships in college, and it made no lick of difference if I tried to hold it together or not. Just to name off a few of the worst ones...

Rachel was found by me to be selling crack, and that she stored her supply in my room under the sink in the dormitory.

Lindsay turned out to be dating 6 guys at the same time, including me. We all showed up at her room one day, and wondered what was going on. We opened the door to see her f-ing (Bypassing the swear filter isn't nice!! -- macklin01) 2 of the other guys.

Amy took my keys one night after we had gone to sleep, slipped out the door and took my car on a drunken joyride. I found it the next morning with the front passenger side wheel well torn off.

Katherine used to slip me ecstasy pills at night to make me horney. She would put them in my food at dinner. I never understood why I would break out in a sweat, get all thirsty, and almost bust a nut in my pants when someone shook my hand. Found out about it when I caught her crushing up the tablets.

And the worst... Shaana. Was getting it on, and she decided to knee me in the nuts. Stole my wallet, my credit car, school id, car keys, and then shot mace at me when I was writhing in pain on my bed holding myself.

That all happened over a period of 5 years in college. I'll give you a word of advice... Art chicks are wrong in the head man. Keep away from any girl that wants to go to art school.

I'm with a girl name Shar now who went to Cullinary School. She is the sweetest thing i've ever experienced. Nice beyond words, and a killer cook. If I dont watch it, she's gonna make me fat with her good food.

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Old 08-18-04, 10:39 AM   #5
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To hell with her man. I can attest to some CRAPPY relationships in college, and it made no lick of difference if I tried to hold it together or not. Just to name off a few of the worst ones...

Rachel was found by me to be selling crack, and that she stored her supply in my room under the sink in the dormitory.

Lindsay turned out to be dating 6 guys at the same time, including me. We all showed up at her room one day, and wondered what was going on. We opened the door to see her f-ing 2 of the other guys.

Amy took my keys one night after we had gone to sleep, slipped out the door and took my car on a drunken joyride. I found it the next morning with the front passenger side wheel well torn off.

Katherine used to slip me ecstasy pills at night to make me horney. She would put them in my food at dinner. I never understood why I would break out in a sweat, get all thirsty, and almost bust a nut in my pants when someone shook my hand. Found out about it when I caught her crushing up the tablets.

And the worst... Shaana. Was getting it on, and she decided to knee me in the nuts. Stole my wallet, my credit car, school id, car keys, and then shot mace at me when I was writhing in pain on my bed holding myself.

That all happened over a period of 5 years in college. I'll give you a word of advice... Art chicks are wrong in the head man. Keep away from any girl that wants to go to art school.

LMAO!!! Sounds like youre a psycho magnet or something. Those are some hilariously messed up stories

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Old 08-18-04, 10:43 AM   #6
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yes, people can and do really change... but not over the summer. If you remain friends you might be able to start things up again in 3 years or something. But right now it doesnt sound like she is anywhere near mature enough for a serious relationship. You sound like you fit into the "nice guy" category. It always seemed to me that girls like jerks in highschool and the first year or so of college, but they out grow that. Not all girls are like that, of course, but some are. There comes a point in life where the nice guys win, dont worry.
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Old 08-18-04, 10:56 AM   #7
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I know... sad part is they are all true. I went to Savannah College of Art and Design for 5 years, and I'll tell you... some of my buddies had similar experiences with the girls we went to school with. I dont know if it's a trend in Art School girls or wut, but it's rather disturbing.

One of my buddies had a chick that kissed him one time with a razor blade in her mouth. Another time, before the razor kiss incident, he found the girl in the bathroom pressing her shaving razor into the backs of her thighs while taking a bath. Pretty sick girl. Some sort of cutting/blood fetish.
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Old 08-18-04, 11:08 AM   #8
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I know... sad part is they are all true. I went to Savannah College of Art and Design for 5 years, and I'll tell you... some of my buddies had similar experiences with the girls we went to school with. I dont know if it's a trend in Art School girls or wut, but it's rather disturbing.

One of my buddies had a chick that kissed him one time with a razor blade in her mouth. Another time, before the razor kiss incident, he found the girl in the bathroom pressing her shaving razor into the backs of her thighs while taking a bath. Pretty sick girl. Some sort of cutting/blood fetish.
Thats not good, the school I transfered to is moslty an art school, getting worried now. I dont want to get kneed i nteh crotch and have all my stuff stolen.
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Old 08-18-04, 11:33 AM   #9
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People can change over extreme circumstances.

Being 14 is not one of those circumstances. Ditch the girl, save yourself the heartbreak I could have when I was in high school. Don't give her any sort of bragging rights. If she's out already at 1am with older guys, she's already going down a bad, sad road and you really don't want to be a part of that.

You should have called the police on the threat. Yeah, it was a bluff and I knew it was a bluff when I read it, but it'd be funny to see the nineteen year old go to jail over this girl and there is no way she could say she wasn't cheating on you.
 
Old 08-18-04, 11:34 AM   #10
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No she probably wouldn't change over the summer.

Perhaps by senior year or late junior... but not by freshman.
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Old 08-18-04, 11:40 AM   #11
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Never had a relationship during HS, always wanted one, now I look back and I am thankful. I became a better person by keeping to myself when it came to crap like that, because its meaningless at such a young age. My god thought it sucked not getting out your feelings talking to the girl, but hey it saved me the possible heartbreak.
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Old 08-18-04, 12:07 PM   #12
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The only time I've seen someone change is with my wife. The woman I married is not the woman I am married to.
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Old 08-18-04, 01:19 PM Thread Starter   #13
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haha funny stories... thanks guys

And in 10th grade (sophomore) your 15-16, i'm turning 16 soon. Now that I think about it whial i'm awake I think she can go and *bleep* a duck.

Now I know that I will never date someone from art school
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Old 08-18-04, 01:32 PM   #14
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Yo man sack that getting back 2gether, its her fault ppl were saying they were gonna kill u causing you grief in process ure 16yrs old i was like u seen a girl for 2 1/2 yrs and i ditched her cos i found out she was cheating. Im 19 now been single for almost a yr and its emence.

Go out and get sum cheekies (girls) that is, and as for the ppl saying they are gonna Kill u hmmm let them that all talk heard it all before.

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Old 08-18-04, 01:49 PM   #15
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The only time I've seen someone change is with my wife. The woman I married is not the woman I am married to.
Is that bad or good? Did you have kidses?
 
Old 08-19-04, 02:26 PM   #16
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PCGUY112887, 1) your 14, she probably wont be "the one" so let it go and have a good time in grade 10 as a single man 2) 2 years is not too long espeically on and off, as you said you have been so its not much to worry about.




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yes, people can and do really change... but not over the summer.
I disagree here
people can change over a summer very dramatically
I was about the same age as the topic starter
grade 9, I was shy did not meet anyone new in Highschool that I didn't know before, I saw faces but never spoke to new people and generally kept my head down.
that summer I desided to try and be confident, even if it is just faking it, see how it work out, well over the summer I no longer had to fake it come grade 10 I was a COMPLETELY different person, grade 9 I was on one sport team and sucked, Grade 10 I tried every team and Wrestling, the sport I did in grade 9 became my love, grade 10 with confidence led me to national placing, I met lots of new friends, my shyness was gone, with that came a harsher personality, most people did not form opinions about me, since I blended in, now I live in a world of love me or hate me. ( at least IRL ) a Person can change in a summer espeically at such a young age, heck music and movie are the primary influence for most young teen girls, so they change monthly even.

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Old 08-19-04, 03:34 PM Thread Starter   #17
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PCGUY112887, 1) your 14, she probably wont be "the one" so let it go and have a good time in grade 10 as a single man
Ahh i'm almost 16! I dunno about you guys but here 10th grade is 15-16. And yes I know she isn't "the one"...
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Old 08-19-04, 03:58 PM   #18
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just stay away from her man, trust me.

First off, she was cheating on you, everyone knows that. everyone in the town knows it. thus, in a year or two, she will be permanently labeled as " easy " ( i had to tone down the language, couldn't use the S word, or the W word, cause i don't think those two are allowed )

The, trust me, just watch, she will be hooked on drugs. how do i know? easy, first off she's probably already getting Drunk like crazy with guys. other guys are trying to get in her pants, so the give her drugs...etc...

she will be hooked. then she will be labeled a " Crack-w**** "

i know girls like this. when they get in trouble, whomever they are with, they take down with them. and put some blame on them too.

you don't want to get caught up in her problems, and mistakes. it will only make your life alot harder.

Oh, and if she is with a 19 year old, find out his name/address. and find out if they are having sex or not. Then, tell her parants. they can call the cops on him, and he's going to be in jail, for having sex with a minor. that will teach him.

and if she asks you back out. just say " no, because you already cheated and talked about cheating on me soooo many times, i don't trust you, i don't like you, stay the F*** out of my life. "

could be a blow to her. and make her think....but i doubt it.

oh well, don't worry, you will find someone much better.

and, i'm not going to give a stupid speach of crap like " your to young to worry about this stuff, your only in the 10'th grade...blah blah blah. " i feel those comments are worthless. your age, and what grade you are in, mean nothing when it comes to this stuff. Do as you wish, its your life. don't listen to those comments.

Girls will be a part of your life forever, might as well start learning about them, and how to figure them out early on. instead of being 30, still trying to figure out how to talk to a girl.

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Old 08-19-04, 05:00 PM   #19
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Ahh i'm almost 16! I dunno about you guys but here 10th grade is 15-16. And yes I know she isn't "the one"...


sorry, you're 16 ..... every thing I said :P

anyway my comment on age is not so much about a Maturity level as you are young go live a little why stay with the one girl espeically if you know she wont be "the one" go out and have many ones ( twos if possible ) live it up, you don't love her, so don't take the crap, move on, it gets tricky when love gets mixed in so get good at dealing with it when there is none.

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At age 50 .... success is .... having money.
At age 60 .... success is .... having sex.
At age 70 .... success is .... having a driving licence.
At age 75 .... success is .... having friends.
At age 80 .... success is .... not peeing in your pants
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Is that bad or good? Did you have kidses?
Neither. Just different. Her favorite color when I met her was purple and she hated pink. Now her favorite color is pink. Mostly just silly stuff like that.
We have a daughter.
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