Nightmare system...Any suggestions?

YR2004 · 08-20-04, 12:41 AM

Hey guys, maybe this forum is a good place to look for help on a system that I've had problems with since I built it last year.
Specs:
8KNXP
2.8ghz P4C
1024MB Geil Golden Dragon PC3500, changed to 1024MB OCZ EL DDR PC3500
9800 Pro
2x120GB WD PATA drives in RAID 0
TTGI 550watt PSU
Audigy 2
Win XP Pro

So here's a summary of everything that's went on with my system:

June 2003: Finally got the system up and running (took a while due to poor documentation) with the GigaRAID setup. Everything seemed to be fine...

July 2003: My first attempts at overclocking. I found that I couldn't OC the system at all besides a few mhz. I figured it was the ram, since I had read bad things about Geil ram in Gigabyte boards. RMA'd it for the OCZ but still no luck. OCZ said it was an issue with the F5 bios, but no bios incarnation since has ever worked for me, and I've tried them all. Oh well...

August 2003: My first functionality problem. I got a "Load DLL's needed for kernel" message and couldn't boot. I'd seen this before and wasn't worried. Did a repair install and I was back to normal.

October 2003: My first MAJOR problem. One of my registry hives was corrupted (I think SAM but I'm not sure), obviously preventing me from booting. The odd thing is that when I attempted to repair install or use the recovery console, I ran into a BSOD that said something about corrupted memory. I later came up with a rather cumbersome solution. I bought an 80GB WD drive, installed XP on it, booted into it and recovered the hives by basically doing a manual system restore (not fun). I did get it up and running, though

Later October 2003: I decided to upgrade from Norton AntiVirus 2003 to 2004...bad idea. After installing 2004, I couldn't install any software, as windows installer would lock up. Even after uninstalling NAV, clearing all the NAV registry keys and reinstalling windows, it wouldn't work. My first reformat. Even on a clean install, I ran into the same NAV problem, so I reformatted again and installed NAV 2003. (Later I read of some others who were having problems with NAV 2004 and the 8KNXP). I realized then that this system was going to be trouble, so I bought PowerQuest DriveImage 7 to restore after future disasters.

January 2004: Ran into another boot problem, but I used DriveImage to restore.

March 2004: Another boot problem, used DriveImage.

April 2004: Until April, I had always suspended my system to RAM (S3 mode in bios). It was a big time saver and used much less electricity than leaving it on. However I lost the ability to resume after suspending in April. At first, it only happened after my system had been suspended for a long time (24+ hours). I would suspend, and instead of resuming, it would go through the POST and boot normally. After a while, it came to the point where I couldn't resume at all. One time, after trying to resume, I encountered a BIOS error and found that my CMOS had been cleared. That was the last time I ever tried to suspend...

May 2004: Another boot problem, used DriveImage.

June 2004: While booting one day, I encountered an automated chkdsk saying my volume needed to be checked for consistency. I let it work, and it found and corrected a few errors (I hadn't done an improper shutdown or anything, so it was odd). Then about a week later I had the same chksdk problem...A week after that I couldn't boot and used DriveImage to restore to a point before the first chkdsk.

August 2004: Ran into the chkdsk thing again, and then a week later, like clockwork. I used DriveImage before I wouldn't be able to boot.

So in summation:
-Many many boot problems of varying severity
-Total inability to overclock
-Unable to resume after suspending
-Recurring automatic chkdsks at boot

And that's that. Pretty nasty system, eh?

I've ruled out memory, as memtest says my sticks are good. So my suspects are:

-The PSU, after reading about noise problems with my brand
-The motherboard
-Something about my RAID setup (maybe one of the drives) since I've been experiencing so many boot problems.

The system is well maintained otherwise, good temps on everything. Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be the cause of the problems? Just so you know how desperate I am: I've hung a Jesus fish in the window of my case to ward off evil spirits to no avail.

chawks2 · 08-20-04, 07:05 AM

You just have really bad luck. I wish I had the patience you have.

With all these boot problems, have you ever thought it could be the ITE IDE controller(GigaRaid)? Sure sounds like it to me, with the amount of money you've spent on components, why not get some Raptors?

Sjaak · 08-20-04, 07:16 AM

Damn youve got a bunch of bad luck

My dad had similar problems with his old PC, (BSOD @ boot, reg errors, unstabile running) and after about 3 months of investigatng i finally found out that his PSU was way too underpowered (pc was bought when i didnt yet had the knowledge to do it for him..the stupid pc shop guys put a 250w in a 2Ghz, 512 ram, gf2gts

)

in your case, i would get anothr mobo and test...

germanjulian · 08-20-04, 07:27 AM

wooooohhhh I would have cried and got a Mac by then....

hope you have some better luck soon

YR2004 · 08-20-04, 02:57 PM

I think it's most likely the PSU, because of the inability to resume standby (unless it's more than one thing...). I found that link I discussed in my original post here: http://anandtech.com/casecooling/sho...px?i=1841&p=25 . If this article had been published two months earlier... My PSU, the 520SS provided the "dirtiest" power of all the ones tested. I think I'll replace the PSU first, hard drive setup second (I can't afford raptors at the current time, so I'd just switch to normal IDE), motherboard third (even though I suspect the mobo more than the drives, the mobo is out of warrantee and a tedious ******* to replace. Almost forgot: before I stopped being able to resume after standby, sometimes I would hear grinding noises in my fans for 3-4 seconds while my system resumed. Well I googled it to ne end and found multiple people saying that's a symptom of a dying PSU. So it's gonna be my first course of action. Thanks for the help, guys!

chawks2 · 08-20-04, 11:18 PM

Sell your 9800, buy a 9550, apply Omega Hacks and purchase some Raptors.

YR2004 · 08-21-04, 12:12 AM

No.

Sjaak · 08-21-04, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chawks2

Sell your 9800, buy a 9550, apply Omega Hacks and purchase some Raptors.

and that's supposed to help him?

he didnt said he was willing to spend another 2000$ to get it to work

Swapping out the entire pc with a different system is our best option to eliminate the problem. Or maybe even its a combination of two parts, but i dnt know if or where any 'incompatibility' lists are available.

YR2004 · 08-21-04, 03:38 AM

I think I'll tackle things in the order of expense. Try the PSU, then I'll try a different drive setup, then the board.

YR2004 · 08-21-04, 03:53 AM

On that note, do any of you guys have a good PSU to recommend? I'd prefer going with a trusted name like Enermax, Antec or Thermaltake, after my experience with a lesser known maker. I like the features of the Enermax NoiseTaker line, but there's a 470 watt and then a 600 watt. Wish they'd add a 520 or 550...

Goldstandard · 08-21-04, 04:11 AM

Well, I heard Sparkle makes a decent PSU too. This one is kinda pricey at 99.99 but the everyone gave it 5 stars at newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-478&depa=0

It can put out 36 amps on the 12v rail! It was designed originally for dual processors but you can get an adapter for regular mobo's as the OEM version doesn't come with an adapter I think. May not be what you are looking for but you asked for suggestions.

TalRW · 08-21-04, 04:12 AM

There is the antec truepower 550 I have heard good things about it, personally I have a enermax 460 watt power supply and it has served me well.

chawks2 · 08-22-04, 09:14 AM

YR, I believe you're taking the right steps in determing the problem, and I have seen PSU problems cause strange issues. However, rebuilding your drives and the corruption you have seen seems to me like a controller issue.

2000$

What are you talking about? If he sells his 9800, he may be able to get $100.

2 x 36G Raptors - 210$
1 x ATI 9550 - 99$

Total cost - $209

His performance jump in applications will double. If the PSU is the problem you should still do above because Raptors are dependable and FAST. The 9550 with the correct hacks and OC'ing will drop about 20 fps possibly less...

SPQQKY · 08-22-04, 10:46 AM

I'm gonna say it is the mobo. I got a 8knxp recently and had my first BSOD in probably a year with it. I am running 2 x 80 Gig Maxtor ata133's in RAID 0. The system is not OCed as this POS won't even let me go to 225 fsb stable with a 2.4C that is known to run 290+ on other boards. I feel the gigaRAID was pretty quick, but the only thing I can attribute to the BSOD....oh yeah, I got a boot disk failure on reboot, but then a reset and it seems fine for now, is the RAID controller. Registry check and one small repair seems to have made things stable for now. I doubt the PSU is to blame as the one you have seems quite adequate and from most reviews I have seen on that one tend to be positive. Can you check the rails with a DMM and see what it does idle and under load?
If you want to try a different PSU, I am using the Thermaltake Silent Purepower 480w and it has been a better PSU than my Antec 430w Truepower.

I still think with so much corruption and boot issues, the mainboard is your sore spot. If you want a good mainboard with onboard IDE RAID, try the Epox ep-4pda2+ or ep-4pca3+. I have had excellent results with both of them.

YR2004 · 08-22-04, 10:44 PM

chawks2: I plan on getting dual 74gb's around christmas time. I'm not giving up my powercolor 9800 pro. This thing is amazing, I've done 480 / 770 on 3dmark with very little artifacts on air without a volt mod! I've seen 9800 XT's that can only do 470 on air. I keep it at XT speeds when not benchmarking, though.
As for the rest of you...
Well I've decided to bite the bullet and get a PC Power & Cooling 510. It's really an insurance policy for a system I've spent over $3000 on. And I just checked my current PSU in SiSoft and the results were horrible, to say the least:

CPU Voltage : 1.57V
Aux Voltage : 2.59V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.30V
+5V Voltage : 4.17V
+12V Voltage : 11.79V
-12V Voltage : -9.32V
-5V Voltage : -4.75V
Standby Voltage : 3.12V
Battery Voltage : 4.08V

Better hope that PSU gets here ASAP...

YR2004 · 08-23-04, 12:35 AM

Downloaded and installed Motherboard Monitor 5 just to check (those Sisoft readings were so off I thought they could be false). The results were even WORSE!

CPU: 1.53v
+3.3v: 3.31v
+5.0v: 4.08v
+12v: 11.61v
-12v: -5.16v (!!!) What's worse is how much it's varying. In the 10 minutes i've been monitoring, the low is -11.45v and the high is +0.80v (yes, that's POSITIVE)
-5v: -4.66v

YR2004 · 08-23-04, 01:52 AM

Can anyone with an 8KNXP test their rig on sandra (motherboard info) for voltages? These readings are so out of spec that i think my board might be reporting them wrong.

74205 · 08-23-04, 01:14 PM

wooow, your psu is in trouble, the 5v line is very low. im prety sure that your psu is making those problems.
and by the way, change that psu now, if you dont want to "destroy" something in your sistem. trust me, it has hapened to me and i losse 2 HD, 1CD-r and a MB

chawks2 · 08-23-04, 06:31 PM

I would love to solve this puzzle, I decided to check out my sandra info. My machine is not plagued by chronic reboots, or drive problems and look what I found:

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU1 Voltage : 1.52V
CPU2 Voltage : 2.62V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.39V
+5V Voltage : 4.22V
+12V Voltage : 11.86V
-12V Voltage : -9.40V
-5V Voltage : -4.70V

I would tend to believe Sandra is not a good troubleshooting tool for a PSU. Oh, and I do not have 2 physical/HT CPUs...

74205 · 08-24-04, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chawks2

I would love to solve this puzzle, I decided to check out my sandra info. My machine is not plagued by chronic reboots, or drive problems and look what I found:

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU1 Voltage : 1.52V
CPU2 Voltage : 2.62V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.39V
+5V Voltage : 4.22V
+12V Voltage : 11.86V
-12V Voltage : -9.40V
-5V Voltage : -4.70V

I would tend to believe Sandra is not a good troubleshooting tool for a PSU. Oh, and I do not have 2 physical/HT CPUs...

hehe, noone of us with a 8knxp has

08-20-04, 12:41 AM	Thread Starter #1
YR2004 Registered Join Date: Aug 2004	Nightmare system...Any suggestions? Hey guys, maybe this forum is a good place to look for help on a system that I've had problems with since I built it last year. Specs: 8KNXP 2.8ghz P4C 1024MB Geil Golden Dragon PC3500, changed to 1024MB OCZ EL DDR PC3500 9800 Pro 2x120GB WD PATA drives in RAID 0 TTGI 550watt PSU Audigy 2 Win XP Pro So here's a summary of everything that's went on with my system: June 2003: Finally got the system up and running (took a while due to poor documentation) with the GigaRAID setup. Everything seemed to be fine... July 2003: My first attempts at overclocking. I found that I couldn't OC the system at all besides a few mhz. I figured it was the ram, since I had read bad things about Geil ram in Gigabyte boards. RMA'd it for the OCZ but still no luck. OCZ said it was an issue with the F5 bios, but no bios incarnation since has ever worked for me, and I've tried them all. Oh well... August 2003: My first functionality problem. I got a "Load DLL's needed for kernel" message and couldn't boot. I'd seen this before and wasn't worried. Did a repair install and I was back to normal. October 2003: My first MAJOR problem. One of my registry hives was corrupted (I think SAM but I'm not sure), obviously preventing me from booting. The odd thing is that when I attempted to repair install or use the recovery console, I ran into a BSOD that said something about corrupted memory. I later came up with a rather cumbersome solution. I bought an 80GB WD drive, installed XP on it, booted into it and recovered the hives by basically doing a manual system restore (not fun). I did get it up and running, though Later October 2003: I decided to upgrade from Norton AntiVirus 2003 to 2004...bad idea. After installing 2004, I couldn't install any software, as windows installer would lock up. Even after uninstalling NAV, clearing all the NAV registry keys and reinstalling windows, it wouldn't work. My first reformat. Even on a clean install, I ran into the same NAV problem, so I reformatted again and installed NAV 2003. (Later I read of some others who were having problems with NAV 2004 and the 8KNXP). I realized then that this system was going to be trouble, so I bought PowerQuest DriveImage 7 to restore after future disasters. January 2004: Ran into another boot problem, but I used DriveImage to restore. March 2004: Another boot problem, used DriveImage. April 2004: Until April, I had always suspended my system to RAM (S3 mode in bios). It was a big time saver and used much less electricity than leaving it on. However I lost the ability to resume after suspending in April. At first, it only happened after my system had been suspended for a long time (24+ hours). I would suspend, and instead of resuming, it would go through the POST and boot normally. After a while, it came to the point where I couldn't resume at all. One time, after trying to resume, I encountered a BIOS error and found that my CMOS had been cleared. That was the last time I ever tried to suspend... May 2004: Another boot problem, used DriveImage. June 2004: While booting one day, I encountered an automated chkdsk saying my volume needed to be checked for consistency. I let it work, and it found and corrected a few errors (I hadn't done an improper shutdown or anything, so it was odd). Then about a week later I had the same chksdk problem...A week after that I couldn't boot and used DriveImage to restore to a point before the first chkdsk. August 2004: Ran into the chkdsk thing again, and then a week later, like clockwork. I used DriveImage before I wouldn't be able to boot. So in summation: -Many many boot problems of varying severity -Total inability to overclock -Unable to resume after suspending -Recurring automatic chkdsks at boot And that's that. Pretty nasty system, eh? I've ruled out memory, as memtest says my sticks are good. So my suspects are: -The PSU, after reading about noise problems with my brand -The motherboard -Something about my RAID setup (maybe one of the drives) since I've been experiencing so many boot problems. The system is well maintained otherwise, good temps on everything. Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be the cause of the problems? Just so you know how desperate I am: I've hung a Jesus fish in the window of my case to ward off evil spirits to no avail.
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08-20-04, 07:05 AM	#2
chawks2 Premium Member #1 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OG, CT	You just have really bad luck. I wish I had the patience you have. With all these boot problems, have you ever thought it could be the ITE IDE controller(GigaRaid)? Sure sounds like it to me, with the amount of money you've spent on components, why not get some Raptors? __________________ "The only solid piece of scientific truth about which I feel totally confident is that we are profoundly ignorant about nature...It is this sudden confrontation with the depth and scope of ignorance that represents the most significant contribution of 20th century science to the human intellect." -Lewis Thomas, The Medusa and the Snail "The best definition we have found for civilization is that civilized man does what is best for all, the savage does what is best for himself." -Edwin Hubble H.E.A.T MarioKart FID-0774-5798-8330
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08-20-04, 07:16 AM	#3
Sjaak Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Netherlands	Damn youve got a bunch of bad luck My dad had similar problems with his old PC, (BSOD @ boot, reg errors, unstabile running) and after about 3 months of investigatng i finally found out that his PSU was way too underpowered (pc was bought when i didnt yet had the knowledge to do it for him..the stupid pc shop guys put a 250w in a 2Ghz, 512 ram, gf2gts ) in your case, i would get anothr mobo and test... __________________ 'Apparantly reality has a strong liberal bias'
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08-20-04, 07:27 AM	#4
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08-20-04, 02:57 PM	Thread Starter #5
YR2004 Registered Join Date: Aug 2004	I think it's most likely the PSU, because of the inability to resume standby (unless it's more than one thing...). I found that link I discussed in my original post here: http://anandtech.com/casecooling/sho...px?i=1841&p=25 . If this article had been published two months earlier... My PSU, the 520SS provided the "dirtiest" power of all the ones tested. I think I'll replace the PSU first, hard drive setup second (I can't afford raptors at the current time, so I'd just switch to normal IDE), motherboard third (even though I suspect the mobo more than the drives, the mobo is out of warrantee and a tedious ******* to replace. Almost forgot: before I stopped being able to resume after standby, sometimes I would hear grinding noises in my fans for 3-4 seconds while my system resumed. Well I googled it to ne end and found multiple people saying that's a symptom of a dying PSU. So it's gonna be my first course of action. Thanks for the help, guys!
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08-20-04, 11:18 PM	#6
chawks2 Premium Member #1 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OG, CT	Sell your 9800, buy a 9550, apply Omega Hacks and purchase some Raptors. __________________ "The only solid piece of scientific truth about which I feel totally confident is that we are profoundly ignorant about nature...It is this sudden confrontation with the depth and scope of ignorance that represents the most significant contribution of 20th century science to the human intellect." -Lewis Thomas, The Medusa and the Snail "The best definition we have found for civilization is that civilized man does what is best for all, the savage does what is best for himself." -Edwin Hubble H.E.A.T MarioKart FID-0774-5798-8330
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08-21-04, 12:12 AM	Thread Starter #7
YR2004 Registered Join Date: Aug 2004	No.
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08-21-04, 03:38 AM	Thread Starter #9
YR2004 Registered Join Date: Aug 2004	I think I'll tackle things in the order of expense. Try the PSU, then I'll try a different drive setup, then the board.
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08-21-04, 03:53 AM	Thread Starter #10
YR2004 Registered Join Date: Aug 2004	On that note, do any of you guys have a good PSU to recommend? I'd prefer going with a trusted name like Enermax, Antec or Thermaltake, after my experience with a lesser known maker. I like the features of the Enermax NoiseTaker line, but there's a 470 watt and then a 600 watt. Wish they'd add a 520 or 550...
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08-21-04, 04:11 AM	#11
Goldstandard Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: California	Well, I heard Sparkle makes a decent PSU too. This one is kinda pricey at 99.99 but the everyone gave it 5 stars at newegg. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-478&depa=0 It can put out 36 amps on the 12v rail! It was designed originally for dual processors but you can get an adapter for regular mobo's as the OEM version doesn't come with an adapter I think. May not be what you are looking for but you asked for suggestions.
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08-21-04, 04:12 AM	#12
TalRW Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Irvine, CA	There is the antec truepower 550 I have heard good things about it, personally I have a enermax 460 watt power supply and it has served me well. __________________ CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+ MOBO: Asus K8N4-E Deluxe HARD DRIVE: MEMORY: 3.0GiB POWER: VIDEOCARD: GNU/Linux Distribution: Trisquel 5.0 (Dagda) Support software freedom! Try one of the nine FSF endorsed distros. Got a wireless network? Secure it!
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08-22-04, 09:14 AM	#13
chawks2 Premium Member #1 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OG, CT	YR, I believe you're taking the right steps in determing the problem, and I have seen PSU problems cause strange issues. However, rebuilding your drives and the corruption you have seen seems to me like a controller issue. 2000$ What are you talking about? If he sells his 9800, he may be able to get $100. 2 x 36G Raptors - 210$ 1 x ATI 9550 - 99$ Total cost - $209 His performance jump in applications will double. If the PSU is the problem you should still do above because Raptors are dependable and FAST. The 9550 with the correct hacks and OC'ing will drop about 20 fps possibly less... __________________ "The only solid piece of scientific truth about which I feel totally confident is that we are profoundly ignorant about nature...It is this sudden confrontation with the depth and scope of ignorance that represents the most significant contribution of 20th century science to the human intellect." -Lewis Thomas, The Medusa and the Snail "The best definition we have found for civilization is that civilized man does what is best for all, the savage does what is best for himself." -Edwin Hubble H.E.A.T MarioKart FID-0774-5798-8330
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08-22-04, 10:46 AM	#14
SPQQKY Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At your door, with a warrant	I'm gonna say it is the mobo. I got a 8knxp recently and had my first BSOD in probably a year with it. I am running 2 x 80 Gig Maxtor ata133's in RAID 0. The system is not OCed as this POS won't even let me go to 225 fsb stable with a 2.4C that is known to run 290+ on other boards. I feel the gigaRAID was pretty quick, but the only thing I can attribute to the BSOD....oh yeah, I got a boot disk failure on reboot, but then a reset and it seems fine for now, is the RAID controller. Registry check and one small repair seems to have made things stable for now. I doubt the PSU is to blame as the one you have seems quite adequate and from most reviews I have seen on that one tend to be positive. Can you check the rails with a DMM and see what it does idle and under load? If you want to try a different PSU, I am using the Thermaltake Silent Purepower 480w and it has been a better PSU than my Antec 430w Truepower. I still think with so much corruption and boot issues, the mainboard is your sore spot. If you want a good mainboard with onboard IDE RAID, try the Epox ep-4pda2+ or ep-4pca3+. I have had excellent results with both of them.
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08-22-04, 10:44 PM	Thread Starter #15
YR2004 Registered Join Date: Aug 2004	chawks2: I plan on getting dual 74gb's around christmas time. I'm not giving up my powercolor 9800 pro. This thing is amazing, I've done 480 / 770 on 3dmark with very little artifacts on air without a volt mod! I've seen 9800 XT's that can only do 470 on air. I keep it at XT speeds when not benchmarking, though. As for the rest of you... Well I've decided to bite the bullet and get a PC Power & Cooling 510. It's really an insurance policy for a system I've spent over $3000 on. And I just checked my current PSU in SiSoft and the results were horrible, to say the least: CPU Voltage : 1.57V Aux Voltage : 2.59V +3.3V Voltage : 3.30V +5V Voltage : 4.17V +12V Voltage : 11.79V -12V Voltage : -9.32V -5V Voltage : -4.75V Standby Voltage : 3.12V Battery Voltage : 4.08V Better hope that PSU gets here ASAP... Last edited by YR2004; 08-23-04 at 11:13 AM.
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08-23-04, 12:35 AM	Thread Starter #16
YR2004 Registered Join Date: Aug 2004	Downloaded and installed Motherboard Monitor 5 just to check (those Sisoft readings were so off I thought they could be false). The results were even WORSE! CPU: 1.53v +3.3v: 3.31v +5.0v: 4.08v +12v: 11.61v -12v: -5.16v (!!!) What's worse is how much it's varying. In the 10 minutes i've been monitoring, the low is -11.45v and the high is +0.80v (yes, that's POSITIVE) -5v: -4.66v
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08-23-04, 01:52 AM	Thread Starter #17
YR2004 Registered Join Date: Aug 2004	Can anyone with an 8KNXP test their rig on sandra (motherboard info) for voltages? These readings are so out of spec that i think my board might be reporting them wrong.
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08-23-04, 01:14 PM	#18
74205 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina	wooow, your psu is in trouble, the 5v line is very low. im prety sure that your psu is making those problems. and by the way, change that psu now, if you dont want to "destroy" something in your sistem. trust me, it has hapened to me and i losse 2 HD, 1CD-r and a MB
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08-23-04, 06:31 PM	#19
chawks2 Premium Member #1 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OG, CT	I would love to solve this puzzle, I decided to check out my sandra info. My machine is not plagued by chronic reboots, or drive problems and look what I found: Voltage Sensor(s) CPU1 Voltage : 1.52V CPU2 Voltage : 2.62V +3.3V Voltage : 3.39V +5V Voltage : 4.22V +12V Voltage : 11.86V -12V Voltage : -9.40V -5V Voltage : -4.70V I would tend to believe Sandra is not a good troubleshooting tool for a PSU. Oh, and I do not have 2 physical/HT CPUs... __________________ "The only solid piece of scientific truth about which I feel totally confident is that we are profoundly ignorant about nature...It is this sudden confrontation with the depth and scope of ignorance that represents the most significant contribution of 20th century science to the human intellect." -Lewis Thomas, The Medusa and the Snail "The best definition we have found for civilization is that civilized man does what is best for all, the savage does what is best for himself." -Edwin Hubble H.E.A.T MarioKart FID-0774-5798-8330
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