Antivirus of Choice?

syberspy9 · 08-31-04, 01:07 AM

any one seen this avast? on download.com?

diggingforgold · 08-31-04, 02:53 AM

I use Norton 2003 Pro. I don't know why I chose Norton instead of McAfee. But until my updates run dry, I'll be sticking with this. And then I will probably go with AVG. I only stumble into a virus once every few months. And I always get it from friends who love to forward emails that they got from someone else. I have yet to get a virus from a normal download.

Eliminate the concept of email attachements, and everything will be fine.

CyberFed · 08-31-04, 11:45 AM

Norton 2004 Pro. Never used anything besides Norton since I've touched a computer, and never had one virus yet so I'm sold.

stmok · 09-07-04, 02:53 PM

NOD32 or Norton Corporate Edition. (Not that Norton home crap version!)

Cowboy X · 09-07-04, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syberspy9

any one seen this avast? on download.com?

I know of Avast ........... well at least that it exists . And here is a poll that includes Avast :

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=323824&page=1

electromagnetic · 09-08-04, 10:39 AM

You all may discard this as a crackpot theory, but I'm convinced the big names behind anti-virus are the ones responsible for releasing new virus code on the internet in the first place. Not all, just some, probably most of it.

Just think about it, what does anyone have to gain by making a virus? Spyware you can make money off of, but the only one who can make money off a virus is Norton or Mcafee or Trend Micro.

Don't buy anti-virus software. Be smart about what you do on you computer instead. You can always use bitfender online, and you don't ever need to worry about updating it.

I.M.O.G. · 09-08-04, 11:03 AM

Prevalent virii can be and often are traced back to their geographic origins, and sometimes even to the culprit.

If it were the big names releasing these, it would be an immensely intricate global network of people working on it... And there is enough money involved that this wouldn't go unnoticed by federal agencies for any amount of time.

For many virii releases, it is a challenge, for some its an attack on capitalism. They all have their reasons.

electromagnetic · 09-08-04, 11:52 AM

You can't track the geographic origin of a CD ROM.

I.M.O.G. · 09-08-04, 12:03 PM

Bahf, my girlfriend is a conspiracy theorist also occasionally. Sometimes I make tinfoil hats and leave them in places she will find them.

Cowboy X · 09-08-04, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electromagnetic

You all may discard this as a crackpot theory, but I'm convinced the big names behind anti-virus are the ones responsible for releasing new virus code on the internet in the first place. Not all, just some, probably most of it.

Just think about it, what does anyone have to gain by making a virus? Spyware you can make money off of, but the only one who can make money off a virus is Norton or Mcafee or Trend Micro.

Don't buy anti-virus software. Be smart about what you do on you computer instead. You can always use bitfender online, and you don't ever need to worry about updating it.

Actually to the contrary . Some virus makers are making 'good' money by creating backdoors for corporate espionage , corporate sabotage , stealing ( and selling) personal info , stealing credit cards and of late partnering with spammers to create spambots and backdoors for spammers for the big $$$ . And of course that is the case with them acting directly , but they also could sell code to programs or exploits to anyone wishing to do any of the above .

electromagnetic · 09-08-04, 04:06 PM

They're in it for the money, I totally agree they help write spyware. And the distinction between spyware and virus is becoming thin.

secretweapon · 09-08-04, 04:54 PM

I use norton, they just seem to be the fastest in updating their database against latest threats.

palee72 · 09-08-04, 08:53 PM

AVG free version... best I've used so far.. I've used norton and mcafee.. norton wasn't bad.. I used both home and corp versions of both as well.. I still prefer AVG.

Cowboy X · 09-09-04, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electromagnetic

They're in it for the money, I totally agree they help write spyware. And the distinction between spyware and virus is becoming thin.

Here's more :

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...biepcs20003000

kurisu · 09-10-04, 01:19 AM

I don't use an anti-virus client at all. I run housecall.trendmicro.com scans once every three days or if I see anything suspicious on my computer. Bloatware Norton/McAfee have no place in a desktop computer anymore - and I'll tell you this in my near full year of experience as a cable ISP tech support, I have seen the housecall scan find viruses that the two aforementioned softwares do not time and time again. People are absolutely astonished at the fact when I guide them through it - after being enlightened that all the money they spent on subscriptions and software was a fruitless endeavor.

hkfeet · 09-10-04, 02:29 AM

I been using norton for many years now and I am pleased with how it has kept my computer clean from viruses. However it doesnt pick up some trojans, which has infected my computer a couple of times.

RoadWarrior · 09-10-04, 07:40 AM

I voted other for AVG.

Although on my own rigs I don't require a background AV, I can usually tell within minutes if a machine is infected with something, seem to have a 6th sense for it. It was back in 2000 I think that I lost faith with Norton, my 6th sense told me my wifes rig had aquired a virus, chernobyl I think it was, so I used the latest trial of Norton and it didn't find it. I used McAfee and it didn't find it. Most people would have thought their rig was clear then. Not me, I got the free fprot that runs from command line, and that one found it and removed it. There seems to be 2 fprots around, one Scandinavian one that is free and a commercial one. The one by the Scandanavians is the good one. It's not so easy to use though and not sure it's updated as often as it used to be, which is why in 2001 I think, I found AVG and started using that as my default virus tool. I've got it set up to run at boot on the kids rig, and just have it installed on my other rigs in case I need it. I run it once every so often just to check.

Strangely enough I've never found a virus on a random sweep. But every time I get that feeling, I've ran an AV and found one. If my 6th sense triggers and AVG doesn't come up trumps though, you bet I will try everything else until I find the bugger.

I have been known to use a disk sector editor to search for and remove virii, but since they rarely have clear text IDable strings in them these days I'm putting more trust in AV products.
On the couple of occasions since 2001 that I've got an infection, where I've had the luxury of time to play, I've found the virus with AVG and left it unfixed and ran other trialware versions of big AVs. It has not been often that they have found the virus!

I've put AVG on other peoples rigs too, they complain about thier PC acting, up, so I go over, sit down in front of it, and tell them, "It's a virus" and they tell me that that's impossible because they always use Norton or McAfee, so then I DL AVG and run it and clean up. One time there were 23 viruses on this one rig that Norton did not see, and 3 that it saw but couldn't remove.

Anyhoo, best AV is common sense and avoidance of reliance on MS. I don't use outlook or IE. I try to avoid the "default" apps for other internet applications as well, most common=most targetted.

Road Warrior

urbancontra · 09-14-04, 02:25 AM

nod32

whoever · 09-14-04, 01:17 PM

Trend micro through system suite 5 is the best

electromagnetic · 09-14-04, 01:38 PM

I think the best anti-virus software out there is gmail. Seriously. Well, unless my mom emails me.

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08-31-04, 11:45 AM	#63
CyberFed Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Orlando Florida UCF Alumni! C/0 2005 Computer Engineering	Norton 2004 Pro. Never used anything besides Norton since I've touched a computer, and never had one virus yet so I'm sold. __________________ I couldn't begin to list my computer specs here..I work as a systems engineer for NASA just imagine the toys I get to play with.. :)

09-08-04, 11:03 AM	#67
I.M.O.G. Glorious Leader Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Rootstown, OH	Prevalent virii can be and often are traced back to their geographic origins, and sometimes even to the culprit. If it were the big names releasing these, it would be an immensely intricate global network of people working on it... And there is enough money involved that this wouldn't go unnoticed by federal agencies for any amount of time. For many virii releases, it is a challenge, for some its an attack on capitalism. They all have their reasons. __________________ The OC Forums Way We are a team. We are a community. We are a fellowship made strong by mutual respect and shared dedication to the task of enriching all who come here. The OC Forums Thank You Thread Put your computer to work for our OC Forum Teams! Try out our POST TEMPLATES, they save you time answering common questions! I spend half my money on CPUs, GPUs, and Liquid Nitrogen. The other half I waste.

09-08-04, 12:03 PM	#69
I.M.O.G. Glorious Leader Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Rootstown, OH	Bahf, my girlfriend is a conspiracy theorist also occasionally. Sometimes I make tinfoil hats and leave them in places she will find them. __________________ The OC Forums Way We are a team. We are a community. We are a fellowship made strong by mutual respect and shared dedication to the task of enriching all who come here. The OC Forums Thank You Thread Put your computer to work for our OC Forum Teams! Try out our POST TEMPLATES, they save you time answering common questions! I spend half my money on CPUs, GPUs, and Liquid Nitrogen. The other half I waste.

09-08-04, 08:53 PM	#73
palee72 Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	AVG free version... best I've used so far.. I've used norton and mcafee.. norton wasn't bad.. I used both home and corp versions of both as well.. I still prefer AVG. __________________ System: Motherboard: ASUS M4A78T-E Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 945 @ 3Ghz RAM: G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) (PC3 10600) CPU Cooling: AMD Stock Case Cooling: Side mounted blue led fan Case: Some silver case I picked up someplace. It holds my stuff..

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08-31-04, 01:07 AM	#61
syberspy9 Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Salmon Arm BC CANADA	any one seen this avast? on download.com?

08-31-04, 02:53 AM	#62
diggingforgold Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Augusta Twp, MI	I use Norton 2003 Pro. I don't know why I chose Norton instead of McAfee. But until my updates run dry, I'll be sticking with this. And then I will probably go with AVG. I only stumble into a virus once every few months. And I always get it from friends who love to forward emails that they got from someone else. I have yet to get a virus from a normal download. Eliminate the concept of email attachements, and everything will be fine.

09-07-04, 02:53 PM	#64
stmok Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Australia	NOD32 or Norton Corporate Edition. (Not that Norton home crap version!)

09-08-04, 10:39 AM	#66
electromagnetic Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver, CO	You all may discard this as a crackpot theory, but I'm convinced the big names behind anti-virus are the ones responsible for releasing new virus code on the internet in the first place. Not all, just some, probably most of it. Just think about it, what does anyone have to gain by making a virus? Spyware you can make money off of, but the only one who can make money off a virus is Norton or Mcafee or Trend Micro. Don't buy anti-virus software. Be smart about what you do on you computer instead. You can always use bitfender online, and you don't ever need to worry about updating it.

09-08-04, 11:52 AM	#68
electromagnetic Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver, CO	You can't track the geographic origin of a CD ROM.

09-08-04, 04:06 PM	#71
electromagnetic Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver, CO	They're in it for the money, I totally agree they help write spyware. And the distinction between spyware and virus is becoming thin.

09-08-04, 04:54 PM	#72
secretweapon Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Edmonton	I use norton, they just seem to be the fastest in updating their database against latest threats.

09-10-04, 01:19 AM	#75
kurisu Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland	I don't use an anti-virus client at all. I run housecall.trendmicro.com scans once every three days or if I see anything suspicious on my computer. Bloatware Norton/McAfee have no place in a desktop computer anymore - and I'll tell you this in my near full year of experience as a cable ISP tech support, I have seen the housecall scan find viruses that the two aforementioned softwares do not time and time again. People are absolutely astonished at the fact when I guide them through it - after being enlightened that all the money they spent on subscriptions and software was a fruitless endeavor.

09-10-04, 02:29 AM	#76
hkfeet Registered Join Date: Sep 2004	I been using norton for many years now and I am pleased with how it has kept my computer clean from viruses. However it doesnt pick up some trojans, which has infected my computer a couple of times.

09-10-04, 07:40 AM	#77
RoadWarrior Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada	I voted other for AVG. Although on my own rigs I don't require a background AV, I can usually tell within minutes if a machine is infected with something, seem to have a 6th sense for it. It was back in 2000 I think that I lost faith with Norton, my 6th sense told me my wifes rig had aquired a virus, chernobyl I think it was, so I used the latest trial of Norton and it didn't find it. I used McAfee and it didn't find it. Most people would have thought their rig was clear then. Not me, I got the free fprot that runs from command line, and that one found it and removed it. There seems to be 2 fprots around, one Scandinavian one that is free and a commercial one. The one by the Scandanavians is the good one. It's not so easy to use though and not sure it's updated as often as it used to be, which is why in 2001 I think, I found AVG and started using that as my default virus tool. I've got it set up to run at boot on the kids rig, and just have it installed on my other rigs in case I need it. I run it once every so often just to check. Strangely enough I've never found a virus on a random sweep. But every time I get that feeling, I've ran an AV and found one. If my 6th sense triggers and AVG doesn't come up trumps though, you bet I will try everything else until I find the bugger. I have been known to use a disk sector editor to search for and remove virii, but since they rarely have clear text IDable strings in them these days I'm putting more trust in AV products. On the couple of occasions since 2001 that I've got an infection, where I've had the luxury of time to play, I've found the virus with AVG and left it unfixed and ran other trialware versions of big AVs. It has not been often that they have found the virus! I've put AVG on other peoples rigs too, they complain about thier PC acting, up, so I go over, sit down in front of it, and tell them, "It's a virus" and they tell me that that's impossible because they always use Norton or McAfee, so then I DL AVG and run it and clean up. One time there were 23 viruses on this one rig that Norton did not see, and 3 that it saw but couldn't remove. Anyhoo, best AV is common sense and avoidance of reliance on MS. I don't use outlook or IE. I try to avoid the "default" apps for other internet applications as well, most common=most targetted. Road Warrior __________________ Folder in disgrace. Folding rigs may be back online eventually, just as soon as real life gives me enough breaks. Black Belt Ubercloxx0r "Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous Folders have fallen or may fall into the grip of OCAU and all the odious apparatus of [H]ardOCP rule, we shall not flag or fail." "We shall go on to the end, we shall fold on the Newcastles, we shall fold on the Northwoods and Prescotts, we shall fold with growing confidence and growing strength on Venice, we shall defend our Forum, whatever the cost may be, we shall fold on the Winchesters, we shall fold on the Bartons, we shall fold on the Applebreds and Thunderbirds, we shall fold on the Coppermines; we shall never surrender!"

09-14-04, 02:25 AM	#78
urbancontra Member Join Date: Jun 2004	nod32

09-14-04, 01:17 PM	#79
whoever Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County	Trend micro through system suite 5 is the best

09-14-04, 01:38 PM	#80
electromagnetic Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver, CO	I think the best anti-virus software out there is gmail. Seriously. Well, unless my mom emails me.

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