9800pro or 6600GT?

gvblake22 · 10-14-04, 06:50 PM

I know they're on different systems (AGP vs. PCI-Express) but there will be an AGP 6600GT eventually...

But anyway, just performance wise, so far, what do you guys think between these two cards if they are running games on 1024x768 resolution with full AA and AF?

HousERaT · 10-14-04, 07:00 PM

well i don't think you can really compare the two..... the GT would probably smake the 9800pro and make it say DADDY.... however, you have to consider the cost of the new platform upgrade.... for right now with an older system, the 9800pro would be the best value.... but if you were planning a complete upgrade I'd go with the GT in a second.... (if of course those were the only two choices....

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gvblake22 · 10-14-04, 07:06 PM

What about if the AGP version of the 6600GT performed the same as the PCI-Express version? Would the 9800pro still get kicked around with fill AA and AF if both cards were on equal platforms?

I know this is a pretty theoretical question so don't think I'm being some crazy dumb a$$ throwing out stuff off the top of his head, just "What do you THINK would happen..."

HousERaT · 10-14-04, 08:58 PM

from what little i've seen... all things being equal and both agp, the GT would still win in just about every benchmark.

Z YA LTR · 10-14-04, 09:02 PM

If the 6600gt was available in an agp version and those were my only choices then I would definitly go with the 6600.

--Josh

Goateh · 10-14-04, 09:07 PM

6600 has my vote

Mav2KM · 10-14-04, 09:10 PM

What about the 256 version of the 9800 pro? Does the extra 128 mem give more preformance or the DDR3? Also, does anyone know if we will see a 256 version of the 6600gt and or x700xt?

Goateh · 10-14-04, 09:14 PM

6600gt as far as I can see, is superior or equal to the 9800 in all aspects

ziggo0 · 10-14-04, 09:14 PM

Would the 6600 beat the 9800 in hl2? Suggesting that if you play (going to play) hl2 or anygame using the hl2 engine, would the 9800p beat the 6600?

Kenshiro · 10-14-04, 09:19 PM

the 6600GT will smoke the 9800pro

Mav2KM · 10-14-04, 09:27 PM

Right here, proven, in pretty simplistic ways but the 6600gt beats the 9800xt in most of the newer games. What a great buy for only 200 bucks!

Link...

gvblake22 · 10-14-04, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav2KM

Right here, proven, in pretty simplistic ways but the 6600gt beats the 9800xt in most of the newer games. What a great buy for only 200 bucks!

Exactly what I was thinking too!!

So the NV4X architecture is much better than previous and can still perform well with AA and AF. 'Caus I remember the 9800's, 9700's, and 9600's did very well even with AA and AF while the comperable nVidia cards ran good untill any of those extras were enabled and then they pooped out pretty quick.
From what I can see from the benchmarks it appears that the new nVida architecture is much better in this aspect but I still wasn't sure if was enough to beat out the former champions of AA and AF.

Kenshiro · 10-14-04, 10:14 PM

how about this???

is 2 6600GT better than 1 6800GT???

this is off the topic, but I am just curious.

Cisco Kid · 10-14-04, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav2KM

What about the 256 version of the 9800 pro? Does the extra 128 mem give more preformance or the DDR3? Also, does anyone know if we will see a 256 version of the 6600gt and or x700xt?

BBA 9800 Pro 256 revision 2 card with the square heatsink uses Hynix 2.5 ns DDR 1 identical to BBA 9800XT. If the card is flashed to an XT it is behind beat by a 6800nu, both at stock speeds in most benches. The 6600 GT is slower than the 6800nu so I would say that a 256 pro would be not be way behind a 6600GT on the same agp platform. I am correct that the 6600 GT is an 8 pipe card right?

I just saw the xbit labs link, the 9800 pro still is a decent card but if the 6600 GT comes in at $200 I guess you have to go that route but only if one wants to go PCI as I expect the wait for agp to be a bit longer right?

CK

Shuzzy · 10-14-04, 10:35 PM

i would think they would be very similar in speeds. but the ati has better image quality. nvidia is better for opengl games, and the ati would be better for d3d games. it's a tough dicesion but i think you will be happy which ever way you go.

Kenshiro · 10-15-04, 12:01 AM

I was about to get the 6800Gt, but this IQ problem is really holding me back from buying 1.

I was thinking about getting X800, but it looks weak when compare to the 6800Gt. they have to compare the X800XT to the 6800GT. The 6800GT totally squash the X800pro. Plus the 6800GT has a good chance to o/c to Ultra spec too.

Sigh.............. why........ why........... why.......... I don't know what I want anymore.......

Kenshiro · 10-15-04, 12:01 AM

Go Go Voodoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

blackpaladin · 10-15-04, 01:28 AM

lol, just get a voodoo 5!

assemblage · 10-15-04, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshiro

how about this???

is 2 6600GT better than 1 6800GT???

this is off the topic, but I am just curious.

YES! 2>1

football · 10-15-04, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshiro

how about this???

is 2 6600GT better than 1 6800GT???

this is off the topic, but I am just curious.

You think you could get this from a 6600GT?

256mb's with a card guaranteed to hit Ultra speeds?

http://www.pcunleash.com/bbs/zboard....emReview&no=37

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HousERaT Senior Air Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Imladris	well i don't think you can really compare the two..... the GT would probably smake the 9800pro and make it say DADDY.... however, you have to consider the cost of the new platform upgrade.... for right now with an older system, the 9800pro would be the best value.... but if you were planning a complete upgrade I'd go with the GT in a second.... (if of course those were the only two choices.... ) __________________ CM-690 \| Maximus Formula \| Ballistix D9GMH 2GB - 4-4-4-10 - 2.2v (active cooled) \| E6850 @4GHz (L719B) 602 Bios 500x8 - 1.475v \| Ultra 120 Extreme \| 2x HD3870 840/1300 \| Lite-On 52327s CDRW \| WD 74GB - Raptor HDD \| Corsair 620HX PSU \| Windows XP Pro sp2 \| Support the OC Benchmarking Team The HD 4870/50 Thread The HD 3870/50 Thread The X1900XT/XTX Thread X800GTO² Thread Heatware Make friends with your "FAST" - 90K 01SE - 77K 03 - 29K 05 - 19K 06 - 274K AM3 - single card all air baby!
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gvblake22 Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tempe Desert	What about if the AGP version of the 6600GT performed the same as the PCI-Express version? Would the 9800pro still get kicked around with fill AA and AF if both cards were on equal platforms? I know this is a pretty theoretical question so don't think I'm being some crazy dumb a$$ throwing out stuff off the top of his head, just "What do you THINK would happen..." __________________ \|\| Intel E8400 @ 400x8 + Coolink U8-120 \|\| MSI P35 Neo2-FR \|\| 2x1GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 (4-4-3-8) \|\| Asus HD 4850 + Accelero S1 & Turbo Module \|\| Auzentech HDA Xplosion \|\| 320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 \|\| 150GB Western Digital Raptor X \|\| Corsair VX550 PSU \|\| Mod Projects: \|\| My First Custom Modded Case \|\| Custom HDD Cooling/Silencing \|\| Custom 6800GT Cooling \|\| Custom Modded CoolerMaster Cavalier 3 \|\| Blue Flame PS2 Stand \|\| "Secret of the Ooze" Case Project \|\| \|\| Heatware \|\| Say Thank You!
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10-14-04, 08:58 PM	#4
HousERaT Senior Air Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Imladris	from what little i've seen... all things being equal and both agp, the GT would still win in just about every benchmark. __________________ CM-690 \| Maximus Formula \| Ballistix D9GMH 2GB - 4-4-4-10 - 2.2v (active cooled) \| E6850 @4GHz (L719B) 602 Bios 500x8 - 1.475v \| Ultra 120 Extreme \| 2x HD3870 840/1300 \| Lite-On 52327s CDRW \| WD 74GB - Raptor HDD \| Corsair 620HX PSU \| Windows XP Pro sp2 \| Support the OC Benchmarking Team The HD 4870/50 Thread The HD 3870/50 Thread The X1900XT/XTX Thread X800GTO² Thread Heatware Make friends with your "FAST" - 90K 01SE - 77K 03 - 29K 05 - 19K 06 - 274K AM3 - single card all air baby!
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Goateh Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NewZealand	6600 has my vote __________________ Asus PZ68-M Pro :: Intel Core i5 2500k :: Stock Cooling :: MSI GTX560:: 2 x 4GB Kingston Hyper-X 1600Mhz "Some day you too will know my pain and smile it's black tooth grin.." -Dave Mustaine, Megadeth
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Mav2KM Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago, IL	What about the 256 version of the 9800 pro? Does the extra 128 mem give more preformance or the DDR3? Also, does anyone know if we will see a 256 version of the 6600gt and or x700xt?
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Goateh Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NewZealand	6600gt as far as I can see, is superior or equal to the 9800 in all aspects __________________ Asus PZ68-M Pro :: Intel Core i5 2500k :: Stock Cooling :: MSI GTX560:: 2 x 4GB Kingston Hyper-X 1600Mhz "Some day you too will know my pain and smile it's black tooth grin.." -Dave Mustaine, Megadeth
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ziggo0 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: La Porte, Indiana	Would the 6600 beat the 9800 in hl2? Suggesting that if you play (going to play) hl2 or anygame using the hl2 engine, would the 9800p beat the 6600?
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Kenshiro Member Join Date: Oct 2003	the 6600GT will smoke the 9800pro __________________ Sager NP9170 17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) Matte LED-Backlit Display AMD Radeon HD 7970M 256bit w/2GB GDDR5 Intel® Core™ i7-3720QM (2.6~3.6GHz) w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3/1600 Dual Channel Memory Crucial 128GB SSD (M4) SATA III Solid-State Drive 500GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive
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Mav2KM Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago, IL	Right here, proven, in pretty simplistic ways but the 6600gt beats the 9800xt in most of the newer games. What a great buy for only 200 bucks! Link...
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10-14-04, 10:14 PM	#13
Kenshiro Member Join Date: Oct 2003	how about this??? is 2 6600GT better than 1 6800GT??? this is off the topic, but I am just curious. __________________ Sager NP9170 17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) Matte LED-Backlit Display AMD Radeon HD 7970M 256bit w/2GB GDDR5 Intel® Core™ i7-3720QM (2.6~3.6GHz) w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3/1600 Dual Channel Memory Crucial 128GB SSD (M4) SATA III Solid-State Drive 500GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive
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Shuzzy Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada	i would think they would be very similar in speeds. but the ati has better image quality. nvidia is better for opengl games, and the ati would be better for d3d games. it's a tough dicesion but i think you will be happy which ever way you go.
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10-15-04, 12:01 AM	#16
Kenshiro Member Join Date: Oct 2003	I was about to get the 6800Gt, but this IQ problem is really holding me back from buying 1. I was thinking about getting X800, but it looks weak when compare to the 6800Gt. they have to compare the X800XT to the 6800GT. The 6800GT totally squash the X800pro. Plus the 6800GT has a good chance to o/c to Ultra spec too. Sigh.............. why........ why........... why.......... I don't know what I want anymore....... __________________ Sager NP9170 17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) Matte LED-Backlit Display AMD Radeon HD 7970M 256bit w/2GB GDDR5 Intel® Core™ i7-3720QM (2.6~3.6GHz) w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3/1600 Dual Channel Memory Crucial 128GB SSD (M4) SATA III Solid-State Drive 500GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive
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Kenshiro Member Join Date: Oct 2003	Go Go Voodoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Sager NP9170 17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) Matte LED-Backlit Display AMD Radeon HD 7970M 256bit w/2GB GDDR5 Intel® Core™ i7-3720QM (2.6~3.6GHz) w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3/1600 Dual Channel Memory Crucial 128GB SSD (M4) SATA III Solid-State Drive 500GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive
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10-15-04, 01:28 AM	#18
blackpaladin Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Buffalo NY	lol, just get a voodoo 5!
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