Copper Tubing

joelkyr · 10-16-04, 06:09 PM

Just want to know if anybody here ever tried copper tubing for WC, just a question I ask myself whenever I look at my WC, we all know copper can absorb heat and wouldnt that make a big difference on your temp. Well the only problem would be maneuvering it inside your system with all those tight bend and looping you have to do.

Liquid_Cooled · 10-16-04, 06:15 PM

theres a few people that have used copper tubing. if i remember correctly, some people say the differance in temperature is minimal, like 1 degree Celsius.

greenman100 · 10-16-04, 06:17 PM

.01C at best

1C warmer at worst, assuming case air is like 15C warmer than water

joelkyr · 10-16-04, 06:19 PM

Just 1 degree, I thought it would be more than that

Diggrr · 10-16-04, 07:08 PM

It made NO difference in my temps, but routing was a breeze and the looks of it sure was nice.
If you do this, just make sure to use plastic tubing for the last 2" or so to the waterblock hosebarbs, the stifness of the copper can easily unseat a block, giving you far worse problems.
You certainly can't solder the pipes into the correct positions while it's all in the case, so perfect alignment is near impossible.

bigben2k · 10-19-04, 11:28 AM

Yep, roger here did it:
http://wc101.com/articles/coppertubing.php

HiProfile · 10-19-04, 08:24 PM

While you can't solder it in tight quarters, you can certainly use soft copper lines rather than rigid. Sure, its tough to bend, hard to keep from kinking (in tight bends), and more expensive, but not as much soldering. They do make tools that prevent kinking (they look like wire wrapped around a tube; refeerenced in that article) that help somewhat; lots of heat helps too. Also, you can choose to insulate the 'cold' lines very easily. The good thing about the tubing is that you can make it so that the entire loop is at least 1/2" ID (or whatever ID you choose), since the fittings are made to fit around the tubing.

Basicly, its a better performer than tubing, but like all things that are 'better', require more time to make & setup. It also takes a bit of skill & luck to get things right. The last thing is that you can do some crazier stuff with all copper rather than tubing, since its easier to chop & fuse copper parts than chopping & fusing (must be melted juuust right) PVC tubing.

joelkyr · 10-19-04, 10:36 PM

Well at least it did lower temp. although its minimal,how about a copper reservoir, has anybody tried it

that'll be great to have a copper tubing and at the same time a copper reservoir.

Diggrr · 10-19-04, 11:37 PM

Copper Reservior Link

That's been done too

Javascripterror · 10-20-04, 06:19 AM

I really like good metal working especially when done by hand and not by machine.

Msi. · 10-21-04, 07:51 AM

you guys / girls are great, Im going to have to work on that. I was thinking copper reservoir around 1ft high x 1ft wide x 2ft long with a suc compartment were I would place 2 or 3 peliers to cool down the reservoir, maybe i would out peiltier on each end and 1 under the box, aways the rest would be copper tubeing.

10-16-04, 06:09 PM	Thread Starter #1
joelkyr Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: ARIZONA	Copper Tubing Just want to know if anybody here ever tried copper tubing for WC, just a question I ask myself whenever I look at my WC, we all know copper can absorb heat and wouldnt that make a big difference on your temp. Well the only problem would be maneuvering it inside your system with all those tight bend and looping you have to do.
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10-16-04, 06:15 PM	#2
Liquid_Cooled Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Jose, CA	theres a few people that have used copper tubing. if i remember correctly, some people say the differance in temperature is minimal, like 1 degree Celsius.
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10-16-04, 06:17 PM	#3
greenman100 Disabled Join Date: May 2003 Location: trying to keep all the magic smoke in	.01C at best 1C warmer at worst, assuming case air is like 15C warmer than water
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10-16-04, 06:19 PM	Thread Starter #4
joelkyr Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: ARIZONA	Just 1 degree, I thought it would be more than that
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10-16-04, 07:08 PM	#5
Diggrr Underwater Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Gun Lake, MI. USA	It made NO difference in my temps, but routing was a breeze and the looks of it sure was nice. If you do this, just make sure to use plastic tubing for the last 2" or so to the waterblock hosebarbs, the stifness of the copper can easily unseat a block, giving you far worse problems. You certainly can't solder the pipes into the correct positions while it's all in the case, so perfect alignment is near impossible. __________________ Rig1: C2D E8400 @3510 Ф Asus P5G41T-M-LX Plus mobo Ф 8 Gigs Ballistix DDR3 1333 Ф Asus GT520 Silent Ф 4 Deep Cool 92mm case fans Ф FSP 1U 460 Watt PSU External Watercooling: 40' Copper Coil Geothermal ground loop Ф Cooling modded MCP350 & MCP355 W/Swiftech white dual pump top Ф D-Tek Fuzion V2, 1/4" Rig2: Via Esther C7 1.5 @ 1.65 Ф Jetway 7F2WE1G5D mITX mobo Ф 1 Gig Generic Ram (max) Ф 120 watt Pico PSU. Life's Tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late. ~ Benjamin Franklin
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10-19-04, 11:28 AM	#6
bigben2k Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas	Yep, roger here did it: http://wc101.com/articles/coppertubing.php __________________ Water Block Testing Alliance
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10-19-04, 08:24 PM	#7
HiProfile Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Random Dumpster/Alley	While you can't solder it in tight quarters, you can certainly use soft copper lines rather than rigid. Sure, its tough to bend, hard to keep from kinking (in tight bends), and more expensive, but not as much soldering. They do make tools that prevent kinking (they look like wire wrapped around a tube; refeerenced in that article) that help somewhat; lots of heat helps too. Also, you can choose to insulate the 'cold' lines very easily. The good thing about the tubing is that you can make it so that the entire loop is at least 1/2" ID (or whatever ID you choose), since the fittings are made to fit around the tubing. Basicly, its a better performer than tubing, but like all things that are 'better', require more time to make & setup. It also takes a bit of skill & luck to get things right. The last thing is that you can do some crazier stuff with all copper rather than tubing, since its easier to chop & fuse copper parts than chopping & fusing (must be melted juuust right) PVC tubing.
	QUOTE Thanks

10-19-04, 10:36 PM	Thread Starter #8
joelkyr Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: ARIZONA	Well at least it did lower temp. although its minimal,how about a copper reservoir, has anybody tried it that'll be great to have a copper tubing and at the same time a copper reservoir.
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10-19-04, 11:37 PM	#9
Diggrr Underwater Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Gun Lake, MI. USA	Copper Reservior Link That's been done too __________________ Rig1: C2D E8400 @3510 Ф Asus P5G41T-M-LX Plus mobo Ф 8 Gigs Ballistix DDR3 1333 Ф Asus GT520 Silent Ф 4 Deep Cool 92mm case fans Ф FSP 1U 460 Watt PSU External Watercooling: 40' Copper Coil Geothermal ground loop Ф Cooling modded MCP350 & MCP355 W/Swiftech white dual pump top Ф D-Tek Fuzion V2, 1/4" Rig2: Via Esther C7 1.5 @ 1.65 Ф Jetway 7F2WE1G5D mITX mobo Ф 1 Gig Generic Ram (max) Ф 120 watt Pico PSU. Life's Tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late. ~ Benjamin Franklin
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10-20-04, 06:19 AM	#10
Javascripterror Registered Join Date: Sep 2004	I really like good metal working especially when done by hand and not by machine.
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10-21-04, 07:51 AM	#11
Msi. Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada, quebec, montreal	you guys / girls are great, Im going to have to work on that. I was thinking copper reservoir around 1ft high x 1ft wide x 2ft long with a suc compartment were I would place 2 or 3 peliers to cool down the reservoir, maybe i would out peiltier on each end and 1 under the box, aways the rest would be copper tubeing.
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