9800 Pro A freaking Chip Fell Off

J-Mag · 10-17-04, 01:43 PM

I was removing my ramsinks, when a little chip fell off.

I was actually removing the ramsinks cause I was going to try to RMA my card, hehe I guess I know why it was garbling randomwebsites and 3d apps.

P.S. Anyone know what the stock thermal paste is on the 9800 series?

speed bump · 10-17-04, 02:21 PM

First this should go in the ATI section.

Second you modified that card by adding ramsinks therefore voilating the warrenty, so you can't return it. To do so is unethical and with a post like that SSS might be coming for.

Finally the thermal paste on your 9800 isn't all that great, so if you don't mind voiding your next warrenty I suggest Artic Silver.

koss20100 · 10-17-04, 02:22 PM

but all he did was add ramsinks how can ramsinks cuz much prob. the card should be able to perform bettter with em i dont think its unethical ...

unless of course he oc'ed it or something.. thtz a diff story

JigPu · 10-17-04, 02:36 PM

You can call a reason for refusing to RMA something stupid, but the fact is that ATI still dosen't allow it. The waranty specifically says: "this warranty does not apply to the software component of a product or a product which has been damaged due to accident, misuse, abuse, improper installation, usage not in accordance with product specifications and instructions, natural or personal disaster, or unauthorized alterations, repairs or modifications."

How good are your soldering skills, or do you know anyone who may have skills enough to repair the card? You can't RMA it, but with some work it might have life again. Can you take any pics of the chip that fell off or where it fell off from?

JigPu

9mmCensor · 10-17-04, 02:45 PM

http://overclockers.com/articles753/

You mod it, you risk it.

aNTiChRisT · 10-17-04, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by koss20100

but all he did was add ramsinks how can ramsinks cuz much prob. the card should be able to perform bettter with em i dont think its unethical ...

unless of course he oc'ed it or something.. thtz a diff story

OCing it is really nothing, installing ramsinks is a big thing.

~t0m

Oni · 10-17-04, 04:18 PM

You're still voiding your warranty if you overclock it. Same as w/ your processor.

J-Mag · 10-17-04, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JigPu

How good are your soldering skills, or do you know anyone who may have skills enough to repair the card? You can't RMA it, but with some work it might have life again. Can you take any pics of the chip that fell off or where it fell off from?

JigPu

I have never soldered anything in my life... I have read a couple articles about it but thats pretty much it. I Wouldn't really be to opposed to trying. I was initially going to post a pic, but for some reason the server wouldn't let me. Is there a size limit for an individual image upload?

9mmCensor · 10-17-04, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aNTiChRisT

OCing it is really nothing, installing ramsinks is a big thing.

~t0m

technically your running the hardware out of spec, and the warrenty is void. altho some manufactures dont care about simple overclocking.

football · 10-17-04, 06:49 PM

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technically your running the hardware out of spec, and the warrenty is void. altho some manufactures dont care about simple overclocking.

Gainward sells it's products "Golden Sample" by it's ability to overclock, and grants a RMA if it should fail.

Adding ramsinks with thermal tape actually voids a warranty?

Cerberus2k7 · 10-17-04, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by football

Gainward sells it's products "Golden Sample" by it's ability to overclock, and grants a RMA if it should fail.

Adding ramsinks with thermal tape actually voids a warranty?

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Originally Posted by JigPu

You can call a reason for refusing to RMA something stupid, but the fact is that ATI still dosen't allow it. The waranty specifically says: "this warranty does not apply to the software component of a product or a product which has been damaged due to accident, misuse, abuse, improper installation, usage not in accordance with product specifications and instructions, natural or personal disaster, or unauthorized alterations, repairs or modifications."

football · 10-17-04, 09:40 PM

So are you saying that adding ramsinks is unethical, if something should fail on the card and you RMA it?

9mmCensor · 10-17-04, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by football

So are you saying that adding ramsinks is unethical, if something should fail on the card and you RMA it?

Its unethical that you knowingly void a warrenty, then use the said warrenty, which is voided. So yes.

Spacepiston · 10-17-04, 10:23 PM

I would RMA it. I could say more, but I dont think I need to.

felinusz · 10-17-04, 10:48 PM

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I would RMA it. I could say more, but I dont think I need to.

RMAing hardware you've done work on is simply unethical. It's breaking the agreement the customer makes when they purchase the product in the first place. A warranty is a manufacturer's guarantee that the product won't be faulty; when you RMA a piece of hardware you've overclocked or modified, you are abusing that guarantee.

We all have taken a hit in the pocketbook at some point when we broke something; you just have to take it and move on.

That said, sometimes manufacturers will repair hardware that you've broken, and voided the warranty on, but for a fee. ASUS has fixed a few motherboards that I killed through bad BIOS hot-flashing, or clumsiness (lots of cut traces via a screwdriver being the best example) , and charged me about ~$50 plus shipping both ways each time.

I don't know if ATi will do this however. Call anonymously and ask.

9mmCensor · 10-17-04, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacepiston

I would RMA it. I could say more, but I dont think I need to.

I think we already covered, the "you cant RMA it for X reasons" issue.

koss20100 · 10-17-04, 10:52 PM

I bet a million those ram sinks are there soo you can over clock it .. tht alone voids the warranty .... the way i feel about the ramsinks (ALONE) is tht its only their for better cooling and thus if the card fails to work its not really something you did (like adding a hs on a cpu)BUT you still void the warranty and unless their policies change live with it!!

P.S. LEARN TO MOD/OC YOUR CARD *AFTER* THE WARRANTY EXPIRES

Spacepiston · 10-18-04, 03:55 PM

Ill buy it off you for 20 bucks. I want the chip too though.

dicecca112 · 10-18-04, 04:11 PM

please conduct business like that via PM

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Ill buy it off you for 20 bucks. I want the chip too though.

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speed bump Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montana tech Butte mt.	First this should go in the ATI section. Second you modified that card by adding ramsinks therefore voilating the warrenty, so you can't return it. To do so is unethical and with a post like that SSS might be coming for. Finally the thermal paste on your 9800 isn't all that great, so if you don't mind voiding your next warrenty I suggest Artic Silver. __________________ Big changes coming: Intel e4300, DFI Blood iron, Crucial DDR2-8500, ATI x859xt, MCW-6002>Ehiem 1250>Bip3 with 3 nidec beta Vs, Sunbeam Zorro, Corsair 650 watter Stuff I should be using but don't: Finally got around to running that stuff. Ever run a benchmark? support our forums by posting it in the 3dmark team and system benchmarking team sections. My heatware Silence may be golden but performance is platinum
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koss20100 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX	but all he did was add ramsinks how can ramsinks cuz much prob. the card should be able to perform bettter with em i dont think its unethical ... unless of course he oc'ed it or something.. thtz a diff story
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JigPu Inactive Pokémon Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Vancouver, WA	You can call a reason for refusing to RMA something stupid, but the fact is that ATI still dosen't allow it. The waranty specifically says: "this warranty does not apply to the software component of a product or a product which has been damaged due to accident, misuse, abuse, improper installation, usage not in accordance with product specifications and instructions, natural or personal disaster, or unauthorized alterations, repairs or modifications." How good are your soldering skills, or do you know anyone who may have skills enough to repair the card? You can't RMA it, but with some work it might have life again. Can you take any pics of the chip that fell off or where it fell off from? JigPu __________________ .... ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 .... Intel Core i5 2500 ........................ 4 thread ...... 3300 MHz ......... -0.125 V 2x ASUS GTX 560 Ti ............................... 1 GiB ....... 830 MHz ...... 2004 MHz .... G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage ............. 8 GiB ..... 1600 MHz ............ 1.25 V .... OCZ Vertex 3 ................................. 120 GB ............. nilfs2 ..... Arch Linux .... Kingwin LZP-550 .............................. 550 W ........ 94% Eff. ....... 80+ Plat .... Nocuta NH-D14 ................................ 20 dB ..... 0.35 C°/W ................ 7 V "In order to combat power supply concerns, Nvidia has declared that G80 will be the first graphics card in the world to run entirely off of the souls of dead babies. This will make running the G80 much cheaper for the average end user." "GeForce 8 Series." Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. 7 Aug 2006, 20:59 UTC. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 8 Aug 2006.
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Oni Oni-ni-Kanabō Ninja Hippo eater Moderator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: St. Catharines, Ontario Canada	You're still voiding your warranty if you overclock it. Same as w/ your processor. __________________ Mama, put my guns in the ground. I can't shoot them anymore. On Indefinite Hiatus Asus P6T SE Intel i7 930 @ Stock 12GB Corsair DDR3 9-9-9-24 XFX Radeon 5830 @ Stock Corsair 750 Watt PSU
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10-17-04, 09:40 PM	#12
football Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oklahoma	So are you saying that adding ramsinks is unethical, if something should fail on the card and you RMA it?
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Spacepiston Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: GR, MI	I would RMA it. I could say more, but I dont think I need to. __________________ Intel P4 3.0e@3.6ghz 1.525vcore \| Abit AI7@240fsb \| Eheim1250>Hcore>Maze3 \| 120GB Maxtor Sata Raid \| Nvidia 6800 Ultra 440/1150 Kingmax 512x4 \| 2-3-3-6 3:2 w/3.2v ctiaw: 5600
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10-17-04, 10:52 PM	#17
koss20100 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX	I bet a million those ram sinks are there soo you can over clock it .. tht alone voids the warranty .... the way i feel about the ramsinks (ALONE) is tht its only their for better cooling and thus if the card fails to work its not really something you did (like adding a hs on a cpu)BUT you still void the warranty and unless their policies change live with it!! P.S. LEARN TO MOD/OC YOUR CARD AFTER THE WARRANTY EXPIRES
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