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crashing computer... 9600 pro??

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camarossguy2

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Heres my system for reference:
ASUS P4P800
Intel 2.8c
2x256 Muskin 222 special ram..pc3200
SATA seagate
Windows XP pro
And a ATI 9600pro with vga cooler and ramsinks


Symptoms:
I was having problems when playing games like battle field. occassionally it would crash the game, but mostly the sceen would flicker. Have not played games in a while.
THEN I noticed i would come home and my computer would be off. Was irregular, but now much more frequent.
Then when even my computer would come back on or i turned it on, it would take about 3-4 try before it would work. example: i push power, the computer appears to be booting, but the screen stays blank. turn it off and try again. same. turn it of and try again...same. ushually on the 3rd or 4th try the screen would click on.
Tested it, it is not a monitor problem.

Then i started to get an very occassional blue screen. i got IRLQ_NOT_LESS OR_EQUAL along with many "windows has recovered from a serious error" when i got to windows.

I rran memtest86 for 7 hours and ram had 0 errors.

I also reinstalled windows and tried different drivers for the video card, no change.

Is it my card? I got it from ebay and it does feel warm for never being overclocked or even not playing games.




EDIT: NEW REPLY AT BOTTOM:


"I upped my CPU voltage progressivly up to .2 volts and no change.

Heres the "system has recovered from a serious error msg"

BCCode: a BCP1 : 00000004 BCP2 : 0000001C BCP3 : 00000000
BCP4 : 804F5549 OSver : 5_1_2600 SP : 1_0 Product : 256_1



And the blue screen is

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

0X0000000A ( 0, 00000004, 0X0000001C, 0X00000000, 0X804F5549)


rEMEMBER I RAN MEMTEST FOR 7 HOURS AND IT FOUND NO ERRORS"
 
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IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL when running a game and after running a game is usually caused by an unstable CPU chip.

I would run Prime95 to confirm that. If Prime95 fails, you're required to check for processor overheating and make sure the motherboard isn't undervolting the CPU chip.


(I used to get STOP: 0x000000A IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL when I had a bad processor overclock. That processor was a bad overclocker. Figures, because it was an Athlon T-bird. I was getting wording about them being at the least, poor overclockers :(. Couldn't even get my Athlon T-bird 900 mhz overclocked to 1050 mhz, even with the Vcore at 1.85V without Windows crashing with that message :(. )
 
RJARRRPCGP said:
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL when running a game and after running a game is usually caused by an unstable CPU chip.

I would run Prime95 to confirm that. If Prime95 fails, you're required to check for processor overheating and make sure the motherboard isn't undervolting the CPU chip.


(I used to get STOP: 0x000000A IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL when I had a bad processor overclock. That processor was a bad overclocker. Figures, because it was an Athlon T-bird. I was getting wording about them being at the least, poor overclockers :(. Couldn't even get my Athlon T-bird 900 mhz overclocked to 1050 mhz, even with the Vcore at 1.85V without Windows crashing with that message :(. )




Hmmm... im not overclocking at all. i have a thermalright copper heatsink and a huge fan on the cpu, and ASUS AI says its running at 22c-24c.. i will find prime 95 and try to figure out how it works. the CPU is relatively new tho. very interesting.

I wrote down the exact codes i got and when im home from school i will post them (one from blue screen, one from windows error reported thing) if anyone can even decifer them.
 
I upped my CPU voltage progressivly up to .2 volts and no change.

Heres the "system has recovered from a serious error msg"

BCCode: a BCP1 : 00000004 BCP2 : 0000001C BCP3 : 00000000
BCP4 : 804F5549 OSver : 5_1_2600 SP : 1_0 Product : 256_1



And the blue screen is

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

0X0000000A ( 0, 00000004, 0X0000001C, 0X00000000, 0X804F5549)


rEMEMBER I RAN MEMTEST FOR 7 HOURS AND IT FOUND NO ERRORS
 
have u tried upping vdimm and use more loose timings like 3-3-3-7. I got mem test error free once but still had problems until I loosened timings.
 
dkdgbroyles said:
have u tried upping vdimm and use more loose timings like 3-3-3-7. I got mem test error free once but still had problems until I loosened timings.


I have vdimm at max... like 2.85 for my p4p800 board.
Well the ram is made to run at 222 timings, so its i can only run it at 333 and above im gunna be pissed. i will try and see if it stops crashing tho
 
Have you run Prime95? Run that and see if you get instability. Also, what are your temps load & idle? Run Prime95 for an hour or so to find you load temp.
 
bchur83 said:
Have you run Prime95? Run that and see if you get instability. Also, what are your temps load & idle? Run Prime95 for an hour or so to find you load temp.


Have not run prime 95 yet, but temps of cpu:
AT IDLE: 22-24c
Load: 26-30c

Not hot whatsoever IMO
 
Run Prime95. CPU's can error just because of undervolt, not just from overheat.

Plus, those temps are REALLY low for air cooling. I'm running a copper Thermalright with a 92mm Tornado, and with that thing up full blast my diode is at about 32-35F, and I'm running a 2500 @ 3200. You sure the reading is accurate?

Trios

EDIT: Actually, if you keep your room at like 17 celsius I could see those temps....are you always bundled up? :p
 
Trios said:
Run Prime95. CPU's can error just because of undervolt, not just from overheat.

Plus, those temps are REALLY low for air cooling. I'm running a copper Thermalright with a 92mm Tornado, and with that thing up full blast my diode is at about 32-35F, and I'm running a 2500 @ 3200. You sure the reading is accurate?

Trios

EDIT: Actually, if you keep your room at like 17 celsius I could see those temps....are you always bundled up? :p



I ran 2 prime95s torture tests, one small, one big for now ~15hours and its says "passed" on every test.

Temps are 29-30 with fans on and 32-35fans off

I have no reason to think the temps are off, my prescot 2.8e went to 50c sometimes
 
camarossguy2 said:
I upped my CPU voltage progressivly up to .2 volts and no change.

Heres the "system has recovered from a serious error msg"

BCCode: a BCP1 : 00000004 BCP2 : 0000001C BCP3 : 00000000
BCP4 : 804F5549 OSver : 5_1_2600 SP : 1_0 Product : 256_1



And the blue screen is

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

0X0000000A ( 0, 00000004, 0X0000001C, 0X00000000, 0X804F5549)


rEMEMBER I RAN MEMTEST FOR 7 HOURS AND IT FOUND NO ERRORS


Increase the Vcore value more, unless Prime95 passed. If Prime95 passed, you probably have a buggy driver.
 
RJARRRPCGP said:
Increase the Vcore value more, unless Prime95 passed. If Prime95 passed, you probably have a buggy driver.


Prime95 passed. i let it go 24 hours...

As for driver???? dunno, i reinstalled windows in attemp to fix the problem and updated with all new drivers..even with the basic ones it still did it.
 
Do you have vpu recovery on? If not turn it on and see what happens.If it crashes to the desktop instead of rebooting it could be this strange problem with the 9600 series not liking agp 8x with some mobo's.Switching to 4x might fix it.I would really give that a shot.
 
irql not less or equal is usually ram. I have the same ram you do, just in a single stick, 512mb. make the voltage 2.8. any higher and you would probably get those blue screens when its under load. ive noticed this ram to be very picky. you could also even try overclocking.. heh. it worked for me once. my 9600XT kept crashing so i overclocked a bit.. all the right voltages and underclocked my ram (had to cause this ram wont go over 400) and it was good.
 
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