How do i take the gaps out of mp3's (i want to make them seamlessly loop)

blackjackel · 11-18-04, 06:12 AM

will provide short and long versions of this question (if you dont understand the short, read the long):

SHORT VERSION:

Goldwave inserts gaps in the music of MP3's (at beginning and end of each song) how do i get these gaps to go away?

(cutting them away in goldwave and resaving dosent work because goldwave just puts them right back in)

LONG VERSION:

I have a bunch of WAV loops that loop seemlessly (you cant tell where it begins and where it ends, there is no gap in the music)

I used goldwave to convert them to MP3's but they started "hiccuping", when i looked closer, i saw that the MP3 files that goldwave made had gaps in the beginning and end of every song...

So i went into goldwave and i "cut" the gaps at the beginning and at the end of the songs and told goldwave to play them in a loop, and whalla! they loop correctly!!! It was the gaps that goldwave made that was the problem....

But heres the catch.

When i attempt to save the files as their respective MP3's Goldwave inserts the gaps again, effectively cancelling out what i just did!!!

pik4chu · 11-18-04, 10:08 AM

ummm try a different program, if all your doing is converting wav to MP3 there are tons of shareware and freeware apps that can do that for you and in my experience I dont see any "extra" stuff put into the songs. One I cna think of off the top of my head is 'Alto MP3 Maker' its shareware I beleive. can download it from www.tucows.om

blackjackel · 11-18-04, 10:18 PM

This problem does not seem to be program specific.

So far i have used a multitude of programs and they do the exact same thing, i have used:

Goldwave

Soundforge

Audacity

And all insert a gap in the mp3 at the beginning and end of the track.

blackjackel · 11-21-04, 05:05 PM

bump

tom10167 · 11-21-04, 07:16 PM

Why can't you just leave them in WAV form? Wav files aren't THAT huge, especially when you're talking about <30 seconds.

Zuzzz · 11-21-04, 11:05 PM

The gaps you are hearing is the program changing to the next song. You might try making one large mp3 file and then play it in a loop.

Z

blackjackel · 11-22-04, 03:47 AM

the big problem here is download speed. For the application that i will be using this for, i need the smallest filesize concievably possible.

So a huge mp3 is not an option, also wav is also not an option.

Celeron_Phreak · 11-22-04, 11:27 PM

Actually, from my experiance, all problems that save MP3s will add a shot silence to the file, which is probably due to compression. WAVs arn't compressed the same, so you won't hear any space at all. When I have things like albums that are continuous, but I want ot burn to a CD wihtout gaps, I just rip the original into WAV, burn it to CD, and put it on my server as an MP3 album.

nahmus · 11-23-04, 04:55 PM

here is a program that has an option to remove the silence when you rip. It might work for you
http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/

blackjackel · 11-30-04, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nahmus

here is a program that has an option to remove the silence when you rip. It might work for you
http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/

The thing is, im converting wavs to mp3s, i am not ripping the tracks from a CD...

does this still work for that purpose? I will try it...

obsolete · 11-30-04, 12:51 PM

You need to plugin a MP3 codec for audiograbber to work properly. I love audiograbber.

Celeron_Phreak · 11-30-04, 04:10 PM

If you still have the original discs, re rip them into WAV format. This would be easiest. Then use a program called Super Sound Joiner (PM me for more info about it), and then encode it back to MP3 with RazorLame (Lame is still needed to encode BTW).

11-18-04, 06:12 AM	Thread Starter #1
blackjackel Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles	How do i take the gaps out of mp3's (i want to make them seamlessly loop) will provide short and long versions of this question (if you dont understand the short, read the long): SHORT VERSION: Goldwave inserts gaps in the music of MP3's (at beginning and end of each song) how do i get these gaps to go away? (cutting them away in goldwave and resaving dosent work because goldwave just puts them right back in) LONG VERSION: I have a bunch of WAV loops that loop seemlessly (you cant tell where it begins and where it ends, there is no gap in the music) I used goldwave to convert them to MP3's but they started "hiccuping", when i looked closer, i saw that the MP3 files that goldwave made had gaps in the beginning and end of every song... So i went into goldwave and i "cut" the gaps at the beginning and at the end of the songs and told goldwave to play them in a loop, and whalla! they loop correctly!!! It was the gaps that goldwave made that was the problem.... But heres the catch. When i attempt to save the files as their respective MP3's Goldwave inserts the gaps again, effectively cancelling out what i just did!!! __________________ --------------------Hardware Specifications-------------------- --CPU: Q6600 @ 3.6 GHZ --Mobo: P5K Deluxe --RAM: 8gig --HDD: 256GB SSD +1TB+1.5TB+3TB+500GB+2x150Raptor raid 1 = ~6.4TB --Vidcard: Radeon 4870 --PSU: TT Toughpower 1250W. --------------------cooling Specifications-------------------- --Case: Cooler Master Stacker 830 --Watercooling rig: Corsair H50 (sealed kit) --Fan setup 8 X 120mm fans: 1 on HD's, 5 blowing on mobo, 2push/pull on radiator. --------------------Miscelaneous Links-------------------- My HeatWare, My folding statistics,
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11-18-04, 10:08 AM	#2
pik4chu Senior Yellow Forum Rat Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Highlands Ranch, Colorado	ummm try a different program, if all your doing is converting wav to MP3 there are tons of shareware and freeware apps that can do that for you and in my experience I dont see any "extra" stuff put into the songs. One I cna think of off the top of my head is 'Alto MP3 Maker' its shareware I beleive. can download it from www.tucows.om __________________ DFI X58-T3EH8 \| I7-920 C0@3.0 (V8) \| 62GB Corsair Dominator @1800-7-7-7-18 \| eVGA 285 \| 1.5 TB RAID 0 \| Win7 64-bit (456Watts) Main Server (WIP):* DFI X58-T3EH8 \| I7-920 C0@3.6 \| 32GB Corsair Dominator @1800-7-7-7-18 \| 81.5TB in RAID 5 (283Watts) Team 32 Countdown heatware
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11-18-04, 10:18 PM	Thread Starter #3
blackjackel Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles	This problem does not seem to be program specific. So far i have used a multitude of programs and they do the exact same thing, i have used: Goldwave Soundforge Audacity And all insert a gap in the mp3 at the beginning and end of the track. __________________ --------------------Hardware Specifications-------------------- --CPU: Q6600 @ 3.6 GHZ --Mobo: P5K Deluxe --RAM: 8gig --HDD: 256GB SSD +1TB+1.5TB+3TB+500GB+2x150Raptor raid 1 = ~6.4TB --Vidcard: Radeon 4870 --PSU: TT Toughpower 1250W. --------------------cooling Specifications-------------------- --Case: Cooler Master Stacker 830 --Watercooling rig: Corsair H50 (sealed kit) --Fan setup 8 X 120mm fans: 1 on HD's, 5 blowing on mobo, 2push/pull on radiator. --------------------Miscelaneous Links-------------------- My HeatWare, My folding statistics,
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11-21-04, 05:05 PM	Thread Starter #4
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11-21-04, 11:05 PM	#6
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11-22-04, 03:47 AM	Thread Starter #7
blackjackel Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles	the big problem here is download speed. For the application that i will be using this for, i need the smallest filesize concievably possible. So a huge mp3 is not an option, also wav is also not an option. __________________ --------------------Hardware Specifications-------------------- --CPU: Q6600 @ 3.6 GHZ --Mobo: P5K Deluxe --RAM: 8gig --HDD: 256GB SSD +1TB+1.5TB+3TB+500GB+2x150Raptor raid 1 = ~6.4TB --Vidcard: Radeon 4870 --PSU: TT Toughpower 1250W. --------------------cooling Specifications-------------------- --Case: Cooler Master Stacker 830 --Watercooling rig: Corsair H50 (sealed kit) --Fan setup 8 X 120mm fans: 1 on HD's, 5 blowing on mobo, 2push/pull on radiator. --------------------Miscelaneous Links-------------------- My HeatWare, My folding statistics,
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11-22-04, 11:27 PM	#8
Celeron_Phreak Member Join Date: Mar 2003	Actually, from my experiance, all problems that save MP3s will add a shot silence to the file, which is probably due to compression. WAVs arn't compressed the same, so you won't hear any space at all. When I have things like albums that are continuous, but I want ot burn to a CD wihtout gaps, I just rip the original into WAV, burn it to CD, and put it on my server as an MP3 album. __________________ Seasonic 600W SLI PSU 2x Logitech MX Revolutions -- Icemat 2nd Edition: Black Plextor 16x SATA DVD-RW -- LG 16x DVD-/+RW/RAM nVidia Reference GTX 280 - IBM P260 Trinitron 21" & DCLCD 19" LCD 2x 1GB Mushkin & 2x 512MB Centon SP3200 (3-3-3-8) Seagate 200GB SATA -- WD 120GB SATA -- Seagate 300GB SATA -- Seagate 500GB IDE 939 AMD Opteron 180 @ 2872 MHz -- ASUS A8N-SLI HDA X-Plosion DTS -- Logitech Z-680 rev. 2 :) Heatware
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11-23-04, 04:55 PM	#9
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11-30-04, 04:10 PM	#12
Celeron_Phreak Member Join Date: Mar 2003	If you still have the original discs, re rip them into WAV format. This would be easiest. Then use a program called Super Sound Joiner (PM me for more info about it), and then encode it back to MP3 with RazorLame (Lame is still needed to encode BTW). __________________ Seasonic 600W SLI PSU 2x Logitech MX Revolutions -- Icemat 2nd Edition: Black Plextor 16x SATA DVD-RW -- LG 16x DVD-/+RW/RAM nVidia Reference GTX 280 - IBM P260 Trinitron 21" & DCLCD 19" LCD 2x 1GB Mushkin & 2x 512MB Centon SP3200 (3-3-3-8) Seagate 200GB SATA -- WD 120GB SATA -- Seagate 300GB SATA -- Seagate 500GB IDE 939 AMD Opteron 180 @ 2872 MHz -- ASUS A8N-SLI HDA X-Plosion DTS -- Logitech Z-680 rev. 2 :) Heatware
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