best and most user friendly linux

elec999 · 12-01-04, 11:33 AM

I am looking for the best and most user friendly linux distro. Supporting many hardwares.
Thanks

ookabooka · 12-01-04, 01:08 PM

mandrake, redhat, suse. . . pretty standard distros that are user friendly imho.

{PMS}fishy · 12-01-04, 01:10 PM

Knoppix. Auto detects hardware on boot, can be run from a CD or installed to the HDD in a matter of mins. Id say it has the best hardware detection out of the box. Its pretty easy to manage, updates are easy, ect.

Some other ones to look at would be Fedora and Mandrake. Both a little more standard in terms of instalation, detects most hardware very well, and has a huge set of packages that come with it. So if you want/needs tons of software ready to go, these would be a better option.

There are tons and tons of distros out there. Do some reseach too, and see if anything catches you eye.

www.distrowatch.com
www.linuxiso.org
www.google.com

{PMS}fishy · 12-01-04, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ookabooka

mandrake, redhat, suse. . . pretty standard distros that are user friendly imho.

Redhat has been replaced by Fedora as far as a desktop OS goes.

SybrCLocK · 12-01-04, 02:35 PM

{PMS}fishy ... i`ve got Knoppix... but it runs from the CD...
i`m downloading the last version... and hope this one can be installed.

i am downloading knoppix.. wich is a gentoo version right?
also.... i`ll download gentoo whats the difference between them?

and when i download i allways get the directory structure with a zillion directorys like:
alpha/
[DIR] amd64/
[DIR] historical/
[DIR] hppa/
[DIR] mips/
[DIR] ppc/
[DIR] ppc64/
[DIR] sparc/
[DIR] x86/
i use x86.. but i was wondering what the otherones are...

also... i`m trying to set it up for use with a DSL modem...
i wonder how hard it will be :P

elec999 · 12-01-04, 03:09 PM

I just want to setup a htpc and Need a distro easily detecting my tv cards. WIll Use Mythtv.
Thanks

{PMS}fishy · 12-01-04, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SybrCLocK

{PMS}fishy ... i`ve got Knoppix... but it runs from the CD...
i`m downloading the last version... and hope this one can be installed.

i am downloading knoppix.. wich is a gentoo version right?
also.... i`ll download gentoo whats the difference between them?

and when i download i allways get the directory structure with a zillion directorys like:
alpha/
[DIR] amd64/
[DIR] historical/
[DIR] hppa/
[DIR] mips/
[DIR] ppc/
[DIR] ppc64/
[DIR] sparc/
[DIR] x86/
i use x86.. but i was wondering what the otherones are...

also... i`m trying to set it up for use with a DSL modem...
i wonder how hard it will be :P

Knoppix is based off of Debian.

As far as the FTP structure, well, amd64 is compiled for A64s, mips for mips CPUs, ect. X86 is for the majority of us computer users, and covers from pentiums to athlon-xps, and everything inbetween.

DSL modem setup should be pretty easy, there is an option in the Kmenu somewhere to configure a PPPoe DSL connection, that is the tool that you are going to want to use. Once you start looking for it, you will see it, and understand what Im talking about.

Gentoo is about 180 degrees different from Knoppix. Takes a long time to install, have to compile everything, instead of having everything compiled. Gentoo is the fastest OS, and Knoppix is probally one of the slowest, in terms of booting, loading software, ect. Knoppix is the easiest to install, Gentoo is the harderest. They are polar opposites of one another. I keep Knoppix around for when I break Gentoo, great set of tools on the knoppix CD, everyone should have a copy if you ask me.

David · 12-01-04, 03:32 PM

I use Gentoo myself, on both Laptop and Desktop. However, it can be hard to setup (although a set of straightforward instructions are provided).

I would recommend SuSe or Mandrake for a first time Linux user, or Knoppix (or Overclockix, a modified version of Knoppix that supports Folding@Home at boot!).

All are easy to set up and use and SuSE and Mandrake are aimed at beginners in many ways.

SybrCLocK · 12-01-04, 03:55 PM

hmm i`ll get them both.. and hope for the best

SybrCLocK · 12-02-04, 05:52 AM

damn gentoo

i understand there are 3 stages and i understand what they do...
i settked for stage 2
so... i went and started downloading the following
it has 1000 directorys.. and 1000 cd`s to download:

from
releases/x86
[DIR] 2004.1/ 22-Apr-2004 02:12 -
[DIR] 2004.2/ 23-Jul-2004 00:08 -
[DIR] 2004.3/ 13-Nov-2004 14:37 -
in each directory.. there are
[DIR] livecd/ 01-Jul-2004 21:53 -
[DIR] packagecd/ 23-Apr-2004 23:28 -
[DIR] stages/ 23-Apr-2004 23:35 -

i downloaded 2004.1, 2, 3 packaged cd's (i know i didnt need to)
ok.. no i`ve read you need... to download liveCD's in order to install it offline:
so.. on theyr online help it says:

For example the x86 variant of this CD is called install-x86-universal-2004.3.iso

so why the hell is it called 3? i didnt download any liveCD's yet.. but do i need all 3 i suppose? or just the second one if i want to do stage 2?

i hope some of you have the answer

tx

David · 12-02-04, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SybrCLocK

damn gentoo

i understand there are 3 stages and i understand what they do...
i settked for stage 2
so... i went and started downloading the following
it has 1000 directorys.. and 1000 cd`s to download:

from
releases/x86
[DIR] 2004.1/ 22-Apr-2004 02:12 -
[DIR] 2004.2/ 23-Jul-2004 00:08 -
[DIR] 2004.3/ 13-Nov-2004 14:37 -
in each directory.. there are
[DIR] livecd/ 01-Jul-2004 21:53 -
[DIR] packagecd/ 23-Apr-2004 23:28 -
[DIR] stages/ 23-Apr-2004 23:35 -

i downloaded 2004.1, 2, 3 packaged cd's (i know i didnt need to)
ok.. no i`ve read you need... to download liveCD's in order to install it offline:
so.. on theyr online help it says:

For example the x86 variant of this CD is called install-x86-universal-2004.3.iso

so why the hell is it called 3? i didnt download any liveCD's yet.. but do i need all 3 i suppose? or just the second one if i want to do stage 2?

i hope some of you have the answer

tx

2004.1, 2004.2, 2004.3 should be various versions of the install disk.

SybrCLocK · 12-02-04, 06:33 AM

"2004.1, 2004.2, 2004.3 should be various versions of the install disk."

ok i got the part of different versions.. but different how? i mena i searched for what they could mean... but.. i still have no idea..

elec999 · 12-02-04, 08:23 AM

I cznt wait till gentoo 2005.0 cames out, it will have a gui for installation.
THanks

klingens · 12-02-04, 10:11 AM

If you intend to run mythtv, you might check KnoppMyth: a knoppix version customized especially for Mythtv. Tho if you use a PVR350 (the best card for mythtv by far imho), you probably need to do some manual work for ivtv

{PMS}fishy · 12-02-04, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SybrCLocK

"2004.1, 2004.2, 2004.3 should be various versions of the install disk."

ok i got the part of different versions.. but different how? i mena i searched for what they could mean... but.. i still have no idea..

It doesn't matter much why they are different. You want 2004.3 alot of the packages on the other 2 cds are no long supported, so always go with the newest, unless there are issues, which there are no on 2004.3.

You want the 2004.3 Minimal Install CD, its about 80mb. Throw that in, follow the dirrections, and download which ever stage that you want. Stage 1 only takes 1 more command and 2 more hours of compiling than Stage 2. Might as well build it from scratch if you ask me. That or use stage 3 and packages, will get going pretty quick, but won't be anywhere near as fast as a Stage 1.

SybrCLocK · 12-02-04, 11:24 AM

i want the 80 MB liveCD?

i thought it was online installation...
well anyways..

I downloaded the liveCD 3, the snapshot (whatever that is) and stage 1
i guess it will ask me during installation for both snapshot and stage compiling

tx for the help btw

flux · 12-03-04, 06:18 AM

Debian an awsome distro also. It can be a little difficult to set up sometimes if you come across a problem, but one everything is up and running there are a couple of fantastic tools which make everything easy - apt and dpkg. With those two there's not alot you can't install VERY easily. If I could marry apt, I would.

{PMS}fishy · 12-03-04, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SybrCLocK

i want the 80 MB liveCD?

i thought it was online installation...
well anyways..

It is an online installation. The 80mb CD is just enough to get you going, with a very basic CLI.

DaWiper · 12-03-04, 12:57 PM

Why havent anyone said Yoper Linux? It works with nvidia cards out of the box. It's one of the fastest distros around that also is easy to install. Installation takes 15-20 mins.

elec999 · 12-03-04, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klingens

If you intend to run mythtv, you might check KnoppMyth: a knoppix version customized especially for Mythtv. Tho if you use a PVR350 (the best card for mythtv by far imho), you probably need to do some manual work for ivtv

Thanks alot man
I never knew this existed, is this knoppix for myth, livecd also.

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{PMS}fishy Senior A64 Killer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boston, MA	Knoppix. Auto detects hardware on boot, can be run from a CD or installed to the HDD in a matter of mins. Id say it has the best hardware detection out of the box. Its pretty easy to manage, updates are easy, ect. Some other ones to look at would be Fedora and Mandrake. Both a little more standard in terms of instalation, detects most hardware very well, and has a huge set of packages that come with it. So if you want/needs tons of software ready to go, these would be a better option. There are tons and tons of distros out there. Do some reseach too, and see if anything catches you eye. www.distrowatch.com www.linuxiso.org www.google.com __________________ Pick 2: Speed -- Reliability -- Cost Trouble Shooting 101: 1. RTFM 2. Repeat Step 1 6ghz Club Member. cw823 Fan Club Founding Member, are you?
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SybrCLocK Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ContinuuM	{PMS}fishy ... i`ve got Knoppix... but it runs from the CD... i`m downloading the last version... and hope this one can be installed. i am downloading knoppix.. wich is a gentoo version right? also.... i`ll download gentoo whats the difference between them? and when i download i allways get the directory structure with a zillion directorys like: alpha/ [DIR] amd64/ [DIR] historical/ [DIR] hppa/ [DIR] mips/ [DIR] ppc/ [DIR] ppc64/ [DIR] sparc/ [DIR] x86/ i use x86.. but i was wondering what the otherones are... also... i`m trying to set it up for use with a DSL modem... i wonder how hard it will be :P __________________ C2D E8400 @ 3.4Ghz (9x377) ASUS P5B-Deluxe EVGA 285GTX 4x2GB G.SKill Seasonic SS-500HT - 500W INTEL X25-M G2 + 6TB RAID5 Storage Last edited by SybrCLocK; 12-01-04 at 02:51 PM. Reason: some more questions
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David Forums Super Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hiding from Americans and making pretty colours in a drybox in St Andrews	I use Gentoo myself, on both Laptop and Desktop. However, it can be hard to setup (although a set of straightforward instructions are provided). I would recommend SuSe or Mandrake for a first time Linux user, or Knoppix (or Overclockix, a modified version of Knoppix that supports Folding@Home at boot!). All are easy to set up and use and SuSE and Mandrake are aimed at beginners in many ways. __________________ David J. Nelson MChem(Edin) PhD(Strath) AMRSC [Academia Profile] OC Forums Super Moderator // Overclockers.com Editor The Workhorse: [Lenovo W510] Intel Core i7-720QM / 8 GB DDR3 / nVidia Quadro FX880M / Crucial M4 256 GB SSD / Windows 7 The HTPC/Server: AMD Phenom X4 9650 / 6 GB DDR2 / nVidia 8300 / 5 TB of HDDs / Antec Solo II Case / Windows 7 The Gaming Rig: AMD Llano A6-3650 / 4 GB DDR3 / nVidia GTX260 / 2x 500 GB HDD in RAID0 / Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Case / Windows 7 The Benchmarking Setup: Various LGA775 chips / Asus Rampage Formula / 2 GB OCZ 1066 MHz DDR2 / nVidia Quadro NVS 285 / 320 GB HDD / Windows 7 My research fellowship is eating all my time, so I may be slow to reply to emails and private messages.
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SybrCLocK Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ContinuuM	hmm i`ll get them both.. and hope for the best __________________ C2D E8400 @ 3.4Ghz (9x377) ASUS P5B-Deluxe EVGA 285GTX 4x2GB G.SKill Seasonic SS-500HT - 500W INTEL X25-M G2 + 6TB RAID5 Storage
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12-02-04, 05:52 AM	#10
SybrCLocK Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ContinuuM	damn gentoo i understand there are 3 stages and i understand what they do... i settked for stage 2 so... i went and started downloading the following it has 1000 directorys.. and 1000 cd`s to download: from releases/x86 [DIR] 2004.1/ 22-Apr-2004 02:12 - [DIR] 2004.2/ 23-Jul-2004 00:08 - [DIR] 2004.3/ 13-Nov-2004 14:37 - in each directory.. there are [DIR] livecd/ 01-Jul-2004 21:53 - [DIR] packagecd/ 23-Apr-2004 23:28 - [DIR] stages/ 23-Apr-2004 23:35 - i downloaded 2004.1, 2, 3 packaged cd's (i know i didnt need to) ok.. no i`ve read you need... to download liveCD's in order to install it offline: so.. on theyr online help it says: For example the x86 variant of this CD is called install-x86-universal-2004.3.iso so why the hell is it called 3? i didnt download any liveCD's yet.. but do i need all 3 i suppose? or just the second one if i want to do stage 2? i hope some of you have the answer tx __________________ C2D E8400 @ 3.4Ghz (9x377) ASUS P5B-Deluxe EVGA 285GTX 4x2GB G.SKill Seasonic SS-500HT - 500W INTEL X25-M G2 + 6TB RAID5 Storage
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12-02-04, 06:33 AM	#12
SybrCLocK Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ContinuuM	"2004.1, 2004.2, 2004.3 should be various versions of the install disk." ok i got the part of different versions.. but different how? i mena i searched for what they could mean... but.. i still have no idea.. __________________ C2D E8400 @ 3.4Ghz (9x377) ASUS P5B-Deluxe EVGA 285GTX 4x2GB G.SKill Seasonic SS-500HT - 500W INTEL X25-M G2 + 6TB RAID5 Storage
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elec999 Member Join Date: Jul 2003	I cznt wait till gentoo 2005.0 cames out, it will have a gui for installation. THanks
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12-02-04, 10:11 AM	#14
klingens Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Xanadu	If you intend to run mythtv, you might check KnoppMyth: a knoppix version customized especially for Mythtv. Tho if you use a PVR350 (the best card for mythtv by far imho), you probably need to do some manual work for ivtv
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12-02-04, 11:24 AM	#16
SybrCLocK Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ContinuuM	i want the 80 MB liveCD? i thought it was online installation... well anyways.. I downloaded the liveCD 3, the snapshot (whatever that is) and stage 1 i guess it will ask me during installation for both snapshot and stage compiling tx for the help btw __________________ C2D E8400 @ 3.4Ghz (9x377) ASUS P5B-Deluxe EVGA 285GTX 4x2GB G.SKill Seasonic SS-500HT - 500W INTEL X25-M G2 + 6TB RAID5 Storage
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12-03-04, 06:18 AM	#17
flux Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cornwall	Debian an awsome distro also. It can be a little difficult to set up sometimes if you come across a problem, but one everything is up and running there are a couple of fantastic tools which make everything easy - apt and dpkg. With those two there's not alot you can't install VERY easily. If I could marry apt, I would. __________________ Lian Li V2100 \| Phenom II X4 965 \| Asus Crosshair III \| 8Gb Cosair XMS3 \| BFG GTX 295 H2O (AKA Useless heavy lump of copper) \| 24" Widescreen TFT \| 20" Widescreen TFT \| 1TB Maxtor HDD Cardboard Box \| Athlon II X3 440 \| ASRock K10N78M Pro \| 4Gb Cosair XMS2 Pro \| BFG 8800 GT \| 17" TFT \| 1TB WD HDD \| PSU with broken fan that beeps at me - donations to replace appreciated
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DaWiper Image Compare Man Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Norway	Why havent anyone said Yoper Linux? It works with nvidia cards out of the box. It's one of the fastest distros around that also is easy to install. Installation takes 15-20 mins.
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