Order of sequence of WC components?

ZenTrickz · 12-08-04, 12:25 AM

Hey all, I'm kind of new to WC setups. I've been doing my research but I still havn't found what is the optimal order of how the water runs through a WC setup. Say you start from Pump >> T-line >> ??? >> ???
Could someone help me out? Oh and the components I wish to cool are CPU and GPU.

Thanks!

ls7corvete · 12-08-04, 12:30 AM

It doesnt matter. Do what ever gives you the least amount of tubbing and sharp turns.

jackrungh · 12-08-04, 12:31 AM

The order will not affect temperatures in a measurable way. Rig the elements any which way you like, and remember that to use the least possible amount of tubing is optimal. Good luck.

creepy · 12-08-04, 01:42 AM

Go with what uses the least amount of tube.

ZenTrickz · 12-08-04, 03:05 PM

Gotcha
I have another newbie questions for you guys.
Are you suppose to put Thermal paste inbetween the CPU and Waterblock like you would with an air heatsink? Also would you do the same with the GPU waterblock?

Cyrix_2k · 12-08-04, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenTrickz

Gotcha
I have another newbie questions for you guys.
Are you suppose to put Thermal paste inbetween the CPU and Waterblock like you would with an air heatsink? Also would you do the same with the GPU waterblock?

yep.

ZenTrickz · 12-08-04, 07:03 PM

ok, would I want a certain type of thermal paste for water cooling blocks?
I was thinking of Arctic Silver 5 for an XP-90, but water cooling looks so much more fun to put together. Any recomendations?

inkfx · 12-08-04, 07:36 PM

Arctic Silver 5 all the way.

Sneaky · 12-08-04, 08:05 PM

AS5 all the way for any type of cooling

and heres the usual loop thats run in series:

Pump > Radiator/Heater core > CPU > Chipset > GPU > Resivoir > Pump (back at the start)

clash · 12-08-04, 08:49 PM

Mine:
Res,pump,waterblock,radiator,back to res.....

Cyrix_2k · 12-08-04, 10:35 PM

Mine: Pump>rad>CPU>HDD>T-line>pump

Sneaky · 12-08-04, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clash

Mine:
Res,pump,waterblock,radiator,back to res.....

it would truly cool better if you went to the water block right after the radiator...

creepy · 12-08-04, 11:47 PM

In the event of going from Pump > rad > block to pump > block > rad when it all comes down to it all youre doing is moving the pump basicly. Check out the myths of water cooling @ overclockers.com.

Guderian · 12-08-04, 11:47 PM

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it would truly cool better if you went to the water block right after the radiator...

Benefits would be minimal and not measurable without an extensive/expensive setup.

The change in the system efficiency with additional tubing would likely be in the same ballpark* as the 'least tubing possible' setup, but with a slightly higher magnitude in most circumstances.

*(power of 10, ie: 0.1 and 0.5)

lowfat · 12-09-04, 02:17 AM

mine : pump, radiator, cpu, NB, GPU.

and i am useing Artic Silver Ceramique.

FearTec · 12-09-04, 04:25 AM

Why use less tubing? Any reason?

Jungle · 12-09-04, 11:33 AM

less tubing and sharp turns = less resistance = greater flow = better performance = happy me

ZenTrickz · 12-09-04, 08:20 PM

I read somewhere that getting a pump that puts out umm... more force (don't know my WC termanology) doesn't really have an effect on cooling performance. Is this a myth as well?

crimedog · 12-09-04, 08:22 PM

increased flow (we measure a pump's power in feet of head generally) increases the performance of the waterblocks and the radiators.

the order doesn't matter, but you want the resevoir or t-line before the pump for ease of filling.

Stumpjumper5200 · 12-09-04, 08:38 PM

Another question: Does having a resivoir in the system help temperatures? Does more water = more water to absorb heat = better temps? My guess is that it's an easier way to get the air out of the system, but any temp increases are minimal.

12-08-04, 12:25 AM	Thread Starter #1
ZenTrickz Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: AB, Canada	Order of sequence of WC components? Hey all, I'm kind of new to WC setups. I've been doing my research but I still havn't found what is the optimal order of how the water runs through a WC setup. Say you start from Pump >> T-line >> ??? >> ??? Could someone help me out? Oh and the components I wish to cool are CPU and GPU. Thanks!
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12-08-04, 12:30 AM	#2
ls7corvete Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tampa, FL	It doesnt matter. Do what ever gives you the least amount of tubbing and sharp turns.
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12-08-04, 12:31 AM	#3
jackrungh Member Join Date: Apr 2004	The order will not affect temperatures in a measurable way. Rig the elements any which way you like, and remember that to use the least possible amount of tubing is optimal. Good luck. __________________ Heatware
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12-08-04, 01:42 AM	#4
creepy Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: tn	Go with what uses the least amount of tube.
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12-08-04, 03:05 PM	Thread Starter #5
ZenTrickz Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: AB, Canada	Gotcha I have another newbie questions for you guys. Are you suppose to put Thermal paste inbetween the CPU and Waterblock like you would with an air heatsink? Also would you do the same with the GPU waterblock?
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12-08-04, 07:03 PM	Thread Starter #7
ZenTrickz Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: AB, Canada	ok, would I want a certain type of thermal paste for water cooling blocks? I was thinking of Arctic Silver 5 for an XP-90, but water cooling looks so much more fun to put together. Any recomendations?
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12-08-04, 07:36 PM	#8
inkfx Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, Texas	Arctic Silver 5 all the way. __________________ \| Dell Studio17 Laptop \| \| T9300 @ 2.5Ghz - ATI 3850 - 3GB RAM - Seagate 320GB 7200rpm - 17" (1920x1200) Glossy widescreen \| Windows 7 64-bit \|
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12-08-04, 08:05 PM	#9
Sneaky Skulltrail Junkie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI	AS5 all the way for any type of cooling and heres the usual loop thats run in series: Pump > Radiator/Heater core > CPU > Chipset > GPU > Resivoir > Pump (back at the start)
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12-08-04, 08:49 PM	#10
clash Premium Member #10 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canyon,Tx.	Mine: Res,pump,waterblock,radiator,back to res..... __________________ i7 2600k @ 4.5 ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Corsair Vengeance 4x8 Mushkin Chronos 120 XFX 7950 BE 1050/1500 Rosewill Lightning-1000 PSU
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12-08-04, 10:35 PM	#11
Cyrix_2k Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, MD (School) - Westminster, MD (home)	Mine: Pump>rad>CPU>HDD>T-line>pump __________________ ASRock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen3 2500k @ 4.9ghz Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO vCore 1.287 \|Idle: 33°c \| Full load: 68°c 16gb Corsair XMS 3 \| Sapphire 6950 2GB UNLOCKED F O L D For Team 32!! Black belt Ubercloxx0r Audio Technica ATH-A900's "yet another issue with the R-series. If I actually use it on my lap, I can feel my sperm count dropping."
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12-08-04, 11:47 PM	#13
creepy Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: tn	In the event of going from Pump > rad > block to pump > block > rad when it all comes down to it all youre doing is moving the pump basicly. Check out the myths of water cooling @ overclockers.com.
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12-09-04, 02:17 AM	#15
lowfat Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: stoon, sask, can	mine : pump, radiator, cpu, NB, GPU. and i am useing Artic Silver Ceramique. __________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E6600. Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6. 4GB Crucial PC2-8000. eVGA 8800GTS 320 Superclocked. Cooler Master Stacker 830. OCZ GameXStream 700W. DTek Fuzion + Weapon 302 Heatercore + AquaXtreme 50Z. JVC RX6042, Soundstage Center 5 + Surrounds, Athena A1-B1s. 3D06-11115 3D05-19593 3D03-37303 3D01-61781
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12-09-04, 04:25 AM	#16
FearTec Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia	Why use less tubing? Any reason?
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12-09-04, 11:33 AM	#17
Jungle Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: north of penguin land	less tubing and sharp turns = less resistance = greater flow = better performance = happy me
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12-09-04, 08:20 PM	Thread Starter #18
ZenTrickz Registered Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: AB, Canada	I read somewhere that getting a pump that puts out umm... more force (don't know my WC termanology) doesn't really have an effect on cooling performance. Is this a myth as well?
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12-09-04, 08:22 PM	#19
crimedog Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South of Boston	increased flow (we measure a pump's power in feet of head generally) increases the performance of the waterblocks and the radiators. the order doesn't matter, but you want the resevoir or t-line before the pump for ease of filling.
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12-09-04, 08:38 PM	#20
Stumpjumper5200 Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Best 1/4 Mile Time: 13.57 @ 101.13	Another question: Does having a resivoir in the system help temperatures? Does more water = more water to absorb heat = better temps? My guess is that it's an easier way to get the air out of the system, but any temp increases are minimal.
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