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core speed to external (Intel like) speed?

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spacerm8

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How does one convert the core speed to external speed? eg a 3200+ cpu has a core speed of 2200. Say I had a core speed of 2640, what is that equal to in AMD terms?
 
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The netburst (Pent4) to ---> AXP / A64 conversion runs about 35 / 65%

in other words

3200+
(2200 X 35%) + 2200 = 2970 (Intel)

3200+ (A64)
(2000 X 65%) + 2000 = 3300 (Intel)
 
Sentential said:
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The netburst (Pent4) to ---> AXP / A64 conversion runs about 35 / 65%

in other words

3200+
(2200 X 35%) + 2200 = 2970 (Intel)

3200+ (A64)
(2000 X 65%) + 2000 = 3300 (Intel)

Then why does the 3200+ calcs add up to 2970 and not 3200? What or where is the missing bit? How does AMD equate 3200+ as an Intel speed?
 
spacerm8 said:
Then why does the 3200+ calcs add up to 2970 and not 3200? What or where is the missing bit? How does AMD equate 3200+ as an Intel speed?
They rounded up to have something to compete with. The *true* 3200+ which was released later, was in fact 2.3ghz not 2.2. Those numbers are correct. The 3200+ was never as fast as a true 3.2 or even a 3.0, until the A64s came along.

Graphicism said:
hmm... so if you have a amd 64 @ 2.5GHz it's similar to a P4 4GHz?
Correct. For a newcastle/winchester. For a Clawhammer it is 2.35 (claws are 150 ahead of WC)
 
that was the old athlon xp, they were never *exactly* up to par with the p4. The 3200+ then was more of a marketing tool in my opinion. It seems now that they are closer, they even rate them a little lower than their p4 counterparts *an amd64 3200+ is closer to a 3300+*.

*edit* damn! sent, you got there first!
 
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Sentential said:
They rounded up to have something to compete with. The *true* 3200+ which was released later, was in fact 2.3ghz not 2.2. Those numbers are correct. The 3200+ was never as fast as a true 3.2 or even a 3.0, until the A64s came along.


Correct. For a newcastle/winchester. For a Clawhammer it is 2.35 (claws are 150 ahead of WC)

This doesn't make sense. AMD marketed a chip as 3200+, equiv to a Intel 3.2. If they went rounding everything up then the marketing would have been a disaster waiting to happen.

Forgive my ignorance, what's the 2.35 for a Clawhammer?
 
spacerm8 said:
This doesn't make sense. AMD marketed a chip as 3200+, equiv to a Intel 3.2. If they went rounding everything up then the marketing would have been a disaster waiting to happen.

Forgive my ignorance, what's the 2.35 for a Clawhammer?

What he means is a 2.35ghz clawhammer is ~ a 4ghz Pentium 4

The Clawhammer core's are about 150mhz more productive than their winchester and newcastle counterparts.
 
TheCheat said:
What he means is a 2.35ghz clawhammer is ~ a 4ghz Pentium 4

The Clawhammer core's are about 150mhz more productive than their winchester and newcastle counterparts.
Correct since they have 2X the cache
 
Well you guys are leading me down the garden path here. Take a 1500+ cpu, 1333 core. Run the calcs as above and it equals 1800! For sure as hell AMD would have screamed the roof down instead of posting 1500+.
Look at a 2600+, different core speeds depending on FSB and cache so these two items must figure in the calcs somewhere also.
I suspect there must be some other calc AMD used to get to their "Intel" equivalent rating.
 
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