are 4.12 drivers too new for older ati cards?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8368440

heres my score at "only" 262x9=2.36GHz. I know its a bad car low and I know it keeps crashing in drag high. such a shame since the 4.12 seem to be like 100 marks faster than 4.10 too. has anyone got the 4.12 drivers to work on older cards such as 9800pro and earlier? If I can not get my 9500np to work on drivers newer than 4.10 I will be forced to upgrade sooner than I thought in order to use new drivers that games in like 6-12 months may be requiring.

4.12's

25853 - 01

2818 - 05

The only problem I have with the 4.12's is the CoD issue is back...plays CoD/CoD UF for about 5 to 10 minutes then the VPU recorvery kicks in and I have to reboot...this is the only game I have had issues with

i have the DNA version for my 9600se and it works fine

arrrrrrrrrrgh sooooooo close! woulda easily been close to 23.3k! Glock, I noticed I am very close to matching your lobbies desipte being 350MHz behind you in cpu and gpu clocks

Overclocker550 said:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8368440

heres my score at "only" 262x9=2.36GHz. I know its a bad car low and I know it keeps crashing in drag high. such a shame since the 4.12 seem to be like 100 marks faster than 4.10 too. has anyone got the 4.12 drivers to work on older cards such as 9800pro and earlier? If I can not get my 9500np to work on drivers newer than 4.10 I will be forced to upgrade sooner than I thought in order to use new drivers that games in like 6-12 months may be requiring.

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What happened to your CPU doing 2.6ghz?

the ondie controller cant handle it and running a divider on the ram just about cancels out the extra cpu MHz making it irrevelent. No matter, I am pleased with my score for my clocks, I beat out almost any air cooled newcastle, period and I beat most winchesters and claws clocked 200MHz higher, if you search the orb, show me how many systems have a car high of almost 130

Mine.

So, are you actually getting 20.5k on that ti4800se in your sig? If so, how on earth...??

I'm running at 220*10.5 (working on the OC) and my 9600xt is at 540/340 and I get 14,600 as my top so far. Now, the 9600xt is faster than the ti4800se, so how did you get your marks so high?

Grov said:

Mine.

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http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8370037

125.8fps car high, this is less than what I get with my winchester at 262x9=2.36GHz. I match your lobby high at 266x9=2.4GHz. you barely beat my lobby low only cause your gpus faster. you of course crush me in nature and dragothic cause of gpu but cpu wise were both pretty much equal, my 3000+ winchester at 2.36 equals your claw at 2.55GHz cause of your winxp handicap=your loss for not upgrading to win2k.


"So, are you actually getting 20.5k on that ti4800se in your sig?"


no, not yet my best is 19.3k with my old newcastle.


"Now, the 9600xt is faster than the ti4800se, so how did you get your marks so high?"


in 3dmark 2001, a ti4800se crushes any 9600 card. also your cpu limited, you wont come within a mile of any a64. Get an a64 and your score will climb like crazy, expect 17k, maybe 18k. I get 17.8k with my 9500(before softmods) at 410/325 and my winchester at 262x9=2.36GHz. You should ebay your 9600xt and upgrade to a 9700(pro) itll cost you $0-20 for the upgrade and even with your same cpu you may have like 17k, maybe 18k marks then when u go a64 youll be 22k plus.

Overclocker550 said:

"Now, the 9600xt is faster than the ti4800se, so how did you get your marks so high?"



in 3dmark 2001, a ti4800se crushes any 9600 card. also your cpu limited, you wont come within a mile of any a64. Get an a64 and your score will climb like crazy, expect 17k, maybe 18k. I get 17.8k with my 9500(before softmods) at 410/325 and my winchester at 262x9=2.36GHz. You should ebay your 9600xt and upgrade to a 9700(pro) itll cost you $0-20 for the upgrade and even with your same cpu you may have like 17k, maybe 18k marks then when u go a64 youll be 22k plus.

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I'm confused. I had a ti4600 (that just died) and the best I could ever get on it was 13,001. The ti4800se (stock 275/550) is just a slower version of the ti4600 (stock 300/650), but my 9600xt still beats that 13k score by over 1,000 points.

I understand what you mean about the a64's. I plan on upgrading sometime this spring.

Ti4800SE is actually an AGP 8X Ti4400.

3DMark2K1 is heavily CPU based - '03 and '05 are the benchmarks you should be using.

"I'm confused. I had a ti4600 (that just died) and the best I could ever get on it was 13,001."

Then you were using the wrong drivers. you need to use the 4.72s and LOD would add a couple hundred too. I broke 13k LONG ago on a ti4200 that oced like crap on an xp2100 with an old kt400 mobo. My best was 16490 with a better but real ti4200 and xp2100 on my abit nf7 mobo. I can easily break 13k now with my winchester underclocked to 1GHz and this is what ill try. If you have windows xp, this hurts your score by alot, ditto to gaming performance.

"3DMark2K1 is heavily CPU based - '03 and '05 are the benchmarks you should be using."


and whys that? It has no relation to games when a 1GHz athlon xp and x800xt crushes a 2.5GHz a64 and 9800pro in those 3dmarks but in games that 1GHz athlon xp cant even get smooth fps at any resolution. 2003, 2005 is only good for showing raw gpu power while isolating the cpu as a varable but all games use lots of cpu power so thats why I run 2001, it correlates good with dx8 games and ok with dx9 games for the matter. 20k in 2001 with any hardware combo you have will give almost the same fps in games at 1024x768. I have over 23k marks of gaming power, this is plenty!

1024x768!?!?! Yuck!

mattspalace said:

1024x768!?!?! Yuck!

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Exactly.

Your wasting your time mate. He seems to think the world evolves around 3dmark 01.

I bet he doesn't even have any games. 550 can you game at 1600x1200, full AA and AF?

I dont care about AA it makes no difference to me at 1600x1200, I dont care if it does to you. My eyes see what they see and 1600x1200 takes care of jaggies just fine. anyway I tried the 5.1s and they seem much better vs. 4.12 give em a try everyone!

i got the new ati drivers to work on my 9600pro ands its overclocked pretty good i think lol

Overclocker550 said:

I dont care about AA it makes no difference to me at 1600x1200, I dont care if it does to you. My eyes see what they see and 1600x1200 takes care of jaggies just fine. anyway I tried the 5.1s and they seem much better vs. 4.12 give em a try everyone!

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If you can play Far Cry, Doom 3, Hl2, Riddick Dawn Of War, etc at 1600x1200 then im the pope.

So... does it make any difference if I use Omega drivers over the "official" ATi ones?